What do you think of when you hear LGBTQ+?

[purpledaze24]

It seems these days, when people see/hear LGBTQ+ they think of trans people & the trans debate. Is this accurate do you think? Or AIBU? I read on here recently about someone rejecting a rainbow badge given to her to wear at work to celebrate pride month (presumably not cos she was homophobic but rather, anti-trans). As a lesbian, this makes me really sad. I’ve always been proud to be a ‘rainbow family’ and want my kids to be proud too, but this association, and takeover imo, of the rainbow symbol & LGBTQ+ acronym by the gender ideology brigade, is creating, at best erasure of LGB people, and at worst, (maybe unintentional) homophobia and discrimination. I respect & understand that trans people have played an important role in the LGBT struggle historically, but it’s this ridiculous escalation of it & all these ‘trans trenders’ and being able to identify as one of 72 different genders etc 🙄

Thank goodness the department of education has just bought in guidance for schools working with gender questioning children.

Slightly off point but I resent the use of the rainbow as a symbol. Rainbows are obviously symbolic for many people for different reasons and now they are becoming synonymous only with pride. I would say the same if a disability group used the love heart or a political group stole the smiley face. It makes other people who like rainbows unable to use them as they are now misinterpreted. I work in a preschool and feel a little uncomfortable displaying rainbows especially during pride month so i now avoid it.

Human nature is tribal.

Flags, emblems and badges are the produce of tribalism.

Any workplace that allows it to happen on their office floor has very weak management.

Precisely. I just wish there was the same energy and focus on more forgotten members of society such as disabled people.

Instead of 'I am gender fluid and can use whatever toilet I like' lunchtime talks etc how about the struggles of deaf people and understand some of the barriers they face. Maybe a lunchtime session learning some basics of sign language. Wheel chair users - what are there daily struggles? Blind people - how do they manage? What engineering is in place to help them and how can we assist.

I see that, but to be fair to MN (despite the inconsistencies) they did allow discussions around women’s rights and the impact of gender ideology in a way that very few websites did.

Reddit around that time banned any women only sub, gender critical subs, whilst having hundreds of porn subs including ones depicting rape and violent porn, and the main lesbian sub was just porn, and pretty much all other lesbian subs populated by trans identified men.

Tbh I roll my eyes. It’s not fair but the whole Q and T thing makes me disengage, I don’t understand why sexual orientation and gender identity have been lumped together as they are completely different things on all levels. I feel sorry for the LGB people having their movement hi jacked

That's how I feel too. Being L or G or B is something that I'm happy to celebrate with anyone who feels like celebrating it (if they want to make a thing out of it). It doesn't feel so natural to celebrate someone's fetishes or mental disorientation.

I think people are entitled to their own views but I don’t want or see any pride flags, I don’t think they have a place in the public sector and feel staff should not be displaying them.

I just wonder why the need for a flag, badge, lanyard etc.
I have no issues with however people choose to identify but don’t see the need for them to have their own colours, days and parades. Who actually cares.

I think of trans people and a movement that cares more about that than anything else