What do you think of when you hear LGBTQ+?

[purpledaze24]

It seems these days, when people see/hear LGBTQ+ they think of trans people & the trans debate. Is this accurate do you think? Or AIBU? I read on here recently about someone rejecting a rainbow badge given to her to wear at work to celebrate pride month (presumably not cos she was homophobic but rather, anti-trans). As a lesbian, this makes me really sad. I’ve always been proud to be a ‘rainbow family’ and want my kids to be proud too, but this association, and takeover imo, of the rainbow symbol & LGBTQ+ acronym by the gender ideology brigade, is creating, at best erasure of LGB people, and at worst, (maybe unintentional) homophobia and discrimination. I respect & understand that trans people have played an important role in the LGBT struggle historically, but it’s this ridiculous escalation of it & all these ‘trans trenders’ and being able to identify as one of 72 different genders etc 🙄

Yes. When I see ‘LGBTQ’ or LGBTQIA+’ I just think of angry, pasty, blue-haired trans-rights activists with face schrapnel. Fetishists in fluffy animal costumes and bondage round their necks trying to make friends with children. AGP men in brothelwear.

I love, know, embrace and support gay men and women whole-heartedly. I LOVE to see a gay or lesbian couple walking along hand-in-hand and am happy to live in a country where they are safe to express affection for each other in public. FULLY supportive of all equal rights for gay people.

My beauty therapist is a gay man and he stopped going to our local Pride a few years ago because, according to him, it’s been taken over by weirdos’.

I associate it with attention seekers and the alphabet people. It's being rammed down our throats constantly. I don't feel the need to announce my sexual preferences to the world on a near daily basis so I don't understand why this has become a thing.

This is exactly why the LGB Alliance was set up. Also Get the L Out, L Community, Not All Gays, Gays against Groomers…

That’s off the top of my head.

I would have happily worn a rainbow lanyard/ badge/whatever to show that I am an ally to gay people. But I wouldn’t wear one now as I associate it with the TQ+ circus.

What a load of vicious stereotypes there are here.

I sigh and think FFS.

LGB - great. Identity alphabet - just bore off

I mainly wonder which subset is actually being referred to.

It feels like LGBT was a general grouping that actually worked well a decade or more ago because the needs and interests were generally more aligned (inclusion in a generally hetero/cis world).

However, that basic inclusion has moved on so much that the needs and interests of the sub groups under the LGBTQIA+……… banner now diverge at least as often as they align and so generally specific causes or events aren’t actually for the whole bracket under that heading.

Yeah, that’s not what I’m talking about.

I had friends that were brutally assaulted in the 1980’s as a result of ‘Gay/Queer bashing’, around the time of ‘Don’t Die of Ignorance’ campaign so likewise for me the usage of ‘Queer’ is also deeply insulting.
I doubt the cretins that use it nowadays have any idea of life in the gay communities in the 80’s, the stigma around being homosexual & the introduction of Section 28.
I remember being told by a good friend that he was HIV but there was an amazing drug AZT being developed. Sadly it was too late for him & he died of AIDS but he was lucky that he had a loving, supportive family that were with him til the end.
Many homosexuals didn’t.
Pride & the rainbow flag was always about LGB not all this other crap.

Who are these “queer people” if they don’t fit into the first 4 categories?

I wonder what the next letter or character will be. It seems to be getting longer and longer.

With that said it is important there isn’t discrimination against those with protected characteristics.

I take it that it's a set of letters meant to encapsulate all people who are gay or trans to varying degrees.

The 'plus' I would tend to kind of ignore. I've heard it can mean really disturbing fetishes which is not something I associate with normal attraction or feelings about one's own body.

If someone wanted to talk to me about trans issues specifically I'd expect them to be able to just say so. Same with lesbian or gay issues.

I wouldn't expect someone to use 'LGBTQ+' in actual spoken conversation. Unless they were running a training course or working in that field.

I just 🙄. The regressive, harmful trans movement has fucked it. The LGB people I know refer to LGB which I fully support, they want no part of the rest.

I avoid LGBTQ+ because as part of that + there is a movement by some to have paedofillia recognised as a sexual orientation under the term “minor attracted person” and I will not do anything to support something which in anyway supports that.

I just hear 'Queer community' in all shapes and sizes.

i think of nothing, i dont give a fuck what your sexual orientation is, just be whatever you are in silence and stop pushing it in my face

But you shouldn't have to "wear a rainbow lanyard" to show you support gay people. This is where the silliness and division started. Then big organisations starting tripping over each other to orgasm over their own virtue signalling to splash rainbows all over their shops. Worst thing is when embarrassingly the police and NHS started it. Never ever should have got involved. All workers should be 100% neutral to all people. That's literally our job. Wearing a rainbow lanyard as say a Dr, makes it look like anyone not wearing one doesn't support gay people. Then the others cry "well where is your black lives matter badge ? Where is your baby loss awareness ribbon? Where's your supporting male survivors of domestic abuse badge ? Where's your Muslim support week ? " And the NHS will cream it's proverbial knickers desperately knocking up these new things. I repeat : we do our job, we support all. anyone overtly displaying discrimination towards anyone should be dealt with. Neutrality means no flags/pins and badges/ribbons. It causes division and bias. They took Bibles out of hospital to aid neutrality, so practice what you bloody well preach and go the whole hog

LGB make sense to be grouped as non hetro sexual attraction to others. A, is that asexual? Perhaps that could be included as relates to (non) sexual attraction.

The other letters (as far as I'm aware) are more about self expression and your feelings and identity and don't seem relevant to your attraction to others and actually can conflict with the sexual orientation (trans and same sex attraction).

Sorry, potentially transphobic! Many people in the T category regard themselves as straight. Someone born male who now identifies as a woman and is attracted to men will most likely identify as straight. Saying otherwise would suggest that that person is a man.

I find the whole thing tedious. I don't give a fuck who you fuck and fail to see why I should. I avoid anything with rainbows on it.

Honestly, I think of it as virtue signalling. I also think it’s strange to be ‘proud’ of being LGBTQI++ etc - I’m none of those, just a straight woman. I don’t feel pride about what is in fact something I can do absolutely nothing about. I feel proud about things I’ve achieved in my life, but sexuality isn’t one of those things.

I agree. acceptance and just 'being' was once the aim of the game - and I think we all agree anyone who disagrees with that probably has some phobic feelings.

But celebrating? Nobody needs to celebrate any sexuality or lack of.

I think of a sandwich

Would you care to expand on that term?