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To think I’m not a nice person?

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He1h · 14/08/2025 19:25

I CAN be nice but overall I don’t think I am. There are genuine sentiments I feels where I want to do the right thing or where I feel genuine empathy towards someone. Mainly family or close friends which I guess is normal.

But there’s so many things I hear about where I basically can’t understand how anyone could be bothered… examples…

Stepping on a snail or killing a spider in your home. I feel nothing, maybe a mild acknowledgment that it’s a bit cruel but a few seconds later I’m over it.

My friend’s family pet died when she was in her late twenties and she was devastated for around 3 weeks. I thought it was ridiculous (I didn’t say that obviously).

People getting bothered when they’re above the age of 18 and their birthday can’t be celebrated on that specific day.. who cares?!

Gender reveals… I literally could not give a fuck what gender your baby is, I do not want to have a ‘reveal’ because I am simply not interested.

When someone’s child is crying at a park of soft play because they want the toy my child has…I have zero compassion and just want said child to go away.

Whoever is about to cross the road and I could slow down and stop, I don’t, even if elderly. I simply don’t care.

If my toddler needs to use the disabled bathroom when we are out, and the baby changing is in there, I will actively rush past a wheelchair user on their way in (if I can manage it in a socially acceptable way). I don’t care that they may need it more than me/DD.

There’s lots more. I can be very kind and considerate but largely I think I’m mostly about myself/immediate family and couldn’t care less about anything else. I often think I will make up for this shitty behaviour later on in life. Then of course I don’t. How awful are these things? Am I just a bit shit?

OP posts:
He1h · 14/08/2025 20:24

Teanbiscuits33 · 14/08/2025 20:02

You sound staggeringly selfish, but starting this thread is a bit contradictory because psychopaths/sociopaths don’t tend to give two shits if they’re a horrible person, or even have the self awareness to acknowledge it, so the very fact you’ve started this thread and name changed out of embarrassment suggests you are aware and care to a certain degree. Have you asked yourself why you are this way, and do you think it’s changeable? Would you want to change it? If not, why the thread? Are you looking for validation?

@Teanbiscuits33 i really really want to change it. I never used to be like this. I used to be really generous and kind and understanding of others.

OP posts:
Someone2025 · 14/08/2025 20:24

He1h · 14/08/2025 20:16

@Redflagsabounded life has been a bit shit in the last few years really. Let down by people and work been pretty awful. Very competitive environment and after having dd I just see misogyny everywhere. I feel defensive and like people are out to get me all the time

I feel a bit like you, I have become more and more selfish and cynical as I have got older, I trust very few people and almost look for the badness in people immediately rather looking for their positive attributes

Lex345 · 14/08/2025 20:24

He1h · 14/08/2025 20:16

@Redflagsabounded life has been a bit shit in the last few years really. Let down by people and work been pretty awful. Very competitive environment and after having dd I just see misogyny everywhere. I feel defensive and like people are out to get me all the time

This is quite interesting really because circumstances definitely can make people behave more selfishly- Covid and the toilet roll obsession for example.

Still think the pushing past the wheelchair user is beyond the pale, but interesting to think about how wider context can negatively drive behaviours. Almost like an over active, animalistic survival instinct.

Mysticguru · 14/08/2025 20:25

You'll get it back in spades. In fact it has already started.

Gonners · 14/08/2025 20:26

Jackiepumpkinhead · 14/08/2025 19:31

You sound a bit psychopathic to be honest.

Not really. Just attention-seeking. Some great ideas here, though ... I reckon I could beat most women with toddlers to the loo with the changing-room.

seaelephant · 14/08/2025 20:26

most of these are totally normal and relatable, I agree with all of them to various degrees, except for the last one which is franky bizarre and bordering on psychotic

Othersnotsomuch · 14/08/2025 20:27

He1h · 14/08/2025 20:24

@Teanbiscuits33 i really really want to change it. I never used to be like this. I used to be really generous and kind and understanding of others.

Every time you find yourself wanting to push past a wheelchair user to get to the disabled
Toilet ; or sling your feet on to a public transport seat etc… just turn to your daughter.

Shell be watching. And learning

He1h · 14/08/2025 20:28

Mysticguru · 14/08/2025 20:25

You'll get it back in spades. In fact it has already started.

@Mysticguru any chance of any guidance?

OP posts:
BrickBiscuit · 14/08/2025 20:29

@He1h You are probably a sociopath. You can learn to ‘model’ empathy (without necessarily feeling it fully), which possibly accounts for your younger self, but not so much currently. So you are indeed 'a bit shit', but it might help to understand why. Change is possible with insight.

steff13 · 14/08/2025 20:29

He1h · 14/08/2025 19:32

@Enigma53 if there was alternative baby changing I would use that though

But you get that the person in the wheelchair might really need to use the restroom whereas your child could wait a few minutes to get their diaper changed, correct? You don't care if that person soils themselves because you wanted to change your child's diaper?

Lauralou19 · 14/08/2025 20:29

I generally think a little bit of kindness goes a long way. Yes it takes a little bit of effort to stop for someone crossing the road (guessing you mean not at an actual crossing), but perhaps that little bit of kindness slightly made their day better.

I have a busy job dealing with the public (healthcare) and there are times i’m rushed off my feet and an elderly person is chatting away to me. I will generally always chat back (even if it delays what im doing) because it might be their only chance for a chat that day. Small things really do matter. I think you realise that more the older you get.

The only example given I can relate to would be about birthdays. Im always happy to celebrate anytime around my birrhday with family and friends and certainly wouldn’t make a fuss if it wasn’t exactly on my day. I suppose that’s just being an adult and realising everyone has busy lives and most important thing is to be together - date doesn’t matter to me.

Do you think there is a reason you lack alot of empathy or don’t see the value in small kind acts to others?

lifeonmars100 · 14/08/2025 20:30

Othersnotsomuch · 14/08/2025 19:28

Whoever is about to cross the road and I could slow down and stop, I don’t, even if elderly. I simply don’t care.

presumably you do at a zebra crossing

There is a crossing near me on a very busy main road and people regularly jump the red light and have no compunction about pedestrians . I have nearly been hit a few times and always wondered about the mentality of people who do this. Utterly selfish risk takers with no care for anyone

Tigergirl80 · 14/08/2025 20:30

You don’t care? Your baby has a nappy on wheelchair users can’t wait to use to loo a baby can.

Straightjacketsandroses · 14/08/2025 20:30

BrickBiscuit · 14/08/2025 20:29

@He1h You are probably a sociopath. You can learn to ‘model’ empathy (without necessarily feeling it fully), which possibly accounts for your younger self, but not so much currently. So you are indeed 'a bit shit', but it might help to understand why. Change is possible with insight.

I would say it’s poor manners rather than sociopathy.

Beachtastic · 14/08/2025 20:32

Sometimes I worry out loud to my DH that I'm not a nice person. He says "No one is a nice person. Get over it" 💗

Holmints · 14/08/2025 20:32

Yes you’re awful. Do you have some kind of shame kink? What do you expect us all to say?
I feel sorry for your kids.

SkylarFalls · 14/08/2025 20:32

He1h · 14/08/2025 19:25

I CAN be nice but overall I don’t think I am. There are genuine sentiments I feels where I want to do the right thing or where I feel genuine empathy towards someone. Mainly family or close friends which I guess is normal.

But there’s so many things I hear about where I basically can’t understand how anyone could be bothered… examples…

Stepping on a snail or killing a spider in your home. I feel nothing, maybe a mild acknowledgment that it’s a bit cruel but a few seconds later I’m over it.

My friend’s family pet died when she was in her late twenties and she was devastated for around 3 weeks. I thought it was ridiculous (I didn’t say that obviously).

People getting bothered when they’re above the age of 18 and their birthday can’t be celebrated on that specific day.. who cares?!

Gender reveals… I literally could not give a fuck what gender your baby is, I do not want to have a ‘reveal’ because I am simply not interested.

When someone’s child is crying at a park of soft play because they want the toy my child has…I have zero compassion and just want said child to go away.

Whoever is about to cross the road and I could slow down and stop, I don’t, even if elderly. I simply don’t care.

If my toddler needs to use the disabled bathroom when we are out, and the baby changing is in there, I will actively rush past a wheelchair user on their way in (if I can manage it in a socially acceptable way). I don’t care that they may need it more than me/DD.

There’s lots more. I can be very kind and considerate but largely I think I’m mostly about myself/immediate family and couldn’t care less about anything else. I often think I will make up for this shitty behaviour later on in life. Then of course I don’t. How awful are these things? Am I just a bit shit?

I haven't read the other comments YET but here's my very first impression of you from that one post

You sound like someone who hasn't been cared about or prioritised, and as a defence mechanism you "aren't bothered" and "don't see the point" in actions and events that usually rally people around other people in a supportive or celebratory way

BrickBiscuit · 14/08/2025 20:33

Straightjacketsandroses · 14/08/2025 20:30

I would say it’s poor manners rather than sociopathy.

It’s not necessarily the manners, it’s the context. Not understanding others’ feelings is not the same as understanding them and still being rude. Sociopathy is a range, a spectrum, and OP would not score at the extreme end. Co-morbidity with other traits is also common, and can cloud the picture.

LittleTwiggy · 14/08/2025 20:34

I think all the examples apart from the last one are not unusual (personally I’d feel awful stepping on a snail but lots of people wouldn’t).

The road crossing one I think people are picturing an official crossing but it sounds like you’re referring to people just wanting to cross at random points in the road.

That last one though is cold. That’s on a different level to the other examples. Is it possible that since having a child you’ve wired your brain into ‘survival’ mode?

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 14/08/2025 20:34

This is pretty worrying OP. 😬😳

Not stopping at a crossing is illegal. Not letting a disabled person into a toilet and actively trying to deliberately push past them is bordering on cold sociopath tendencies in a way.

Why do you think you are better than anyone else? What makes you do these things and actively be unkind?

It's pretty horrible.

lifeonmars100 · 14/08/2025 20:34

MyLimeGuide · 14/08/2025 19:38

You sound like an average human tbh

That is a depressing thought

Lickityspit · 14/08/2025 20:35

You do sound fairly horrible and unkind. My elderly father is in a wheelchair and no pedestrian crossings near his house so we rely at busy times on kind drivers slowing down to let us cross the main road. You have no idea just how appreciated it is. Then there are arseholes like you who would probably speed up.
I don’t understand your thinking to be honest and hope I never meet you

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CoffeeCantata · 14/08/2025 20:35

aniataniamania · 14/08/2025 19:45

all normal apart from the pet dying and wheel chair user. Those are a bit 🙄

Or the poor crushed snail.

All living creatures feel pain and I’m always devastated if I’ve caused it, or even if I just witness it. I wish these things didn’t bother me so much - it makes my life difficult. Op’s life will certainly be easier and less complicated if they don’t worry about such things.

I agree psychopathy sounds possible.

Straightjacketsandroses · 14/08/2025 20:35

BrickBiscuit · 14/08/2025 20:33

It’s not necessarily the manners, it’s the context. Not understanding others’ feelings is not the same as understanding them and still being rude. Sociopathy is a range, a spectrum, and OP would not score at the extreme end. Co-morbidity with other traits is also common, and can cloud the picture.

See my previous post. I suspect I’m on the sociopathy spectrum, and I still think behaving like this shows bad manners and a slovenly, selfish outlook. I think a sociopath would take my more pride in how they are perceived

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