Are the old meanings of the words woman and man redundant?

[Thadthimes]

Various dictionary definitions seem
to have made the words woman and man redundant.

In short.

woman = XX chromosomes, adult human female (including extremely rare cases of other chromosomal configurations but always without the SRY genes)

woman = XY chromosomes, adult human male (including extremely rare cases of other chromosomal configurations but always with the SRY gene) but believe and feels they are XX and all the associated characteristics of an adult human female.

man = XY chromosomes, adult human male (including extremely rare cases of other chromosomal configurations but always with the SRY gene)

man = XX chromosomes, adult human female (including extremely rare cases of other chromosomal configurations but always without the SRY genes) but believe and feel they are XY.

If this was a venn diagram I’m not sure it would work.

AIBU to think we just need new words for the old biological meanings of these categories to save confusion?

No, everyone understands man and woman just fine. Likewise mother and father, sister and brother etc.

No. Those dictionaries are wrong.

AIBU to think we just need new words for the old biological meanings of these categories to save confusion?

Women and men still work fine.

What dictionaries are you reading?

But if trans identifying men are woman then they don’t work fine.
I think we need new words to define biology

Which dictionary is that from?

I think we need new words to define biology

No, we just need the fad of enforcing novel definitions of 'man' and 'woman' to peter out.

Everyone knows what 'man' and 'woman' mean, even those who pretend that they don't, so no.

Various dictionaries jumped on the trans train a while back. They now give out nonsense definitions that don’t work, because they are nonsense.

Cambridge dictionary

1. adult human female

an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been considered to have a different sex at birth: Mary is a woman who was assigned maleat birth. transgender woman Marie is a transgender woman (= she was considered to be male at birth). 1.

No, we just need people like you to stop making nonsensical comments like "new words to define biology"

If a man told you he identified as a cow, would you take him seriously?

I think these faddy definitions are likely to be amended in light of recent legal clarifications and man and woman will remain as the nouns biological male and females.

They're not women though. So no new words needed.

Trans identifying men don't magically change sex because they identify as something they are not. Male women are not a thing.

No.
A woman doesn't ever have a Y chromosome, because the presence of a Y chromosome indicates male.
Most women will be 'standard' XX, though Turners Syndrome women have either a partial or complete lack of the second X chromosome.
HTH

No, no confusion at all.

Woman = XX chromosomes, appropriate sex organs

Man = XY chromosomes, appropriate sex organs

Women will carry on having breasts and bearing children.....
Men will carry on growing beards and impregnating women....

as they have always done, or not if they choose. Men who pretend to be women are still men, and vice versa. Putting on a dress and lippy does not change scientific fact. Changing sex is not possible regardless of what some fool at the Cambridge Dictionary thinks.

How people choose to live their lives is completely their choice, but pretending black is white won't wash.

The dictionary definition and news reporting is not supporting this though

Don’t be daft. The trans movement would just take over those new words too.

We need to hold onto the real meaning of woman and man.

Many people and dictionaries seem to say that men can be women and that sex can be changed after it is ‘assigned at birth’

You can't redefine biology to suit the whims of some people. Man and Woman should mean exactly what they've always meant. If someone believes they are other than what they were born (not bloody assigned 😡) then the prefix 'trans' is there to identify their belief.

But isn’t the right thing to say, trans women are women?

The definition in that specific edition of that specific dictionary is wrong and will be corrected at some point, if Cambridge Dictionary wish to continue to be regarded as an accurate reference.

News reporting is frequently wrong. Nothing new in that.

Whereabouts in the world are you, OP?

It's certainly an interesting thing to be fretting over at 06:15 on a Wednesday morning.

Why is that the right thing to say? They aren’t women so it is wrong. Some dictionary’s updated their definitions recently, but I imagine they will change them back again with the Supreme Court ruling.

I'm probably being stupid but can't we use "man", "woman", "transgender man" and "transgender woman" to describe the groups? Would that cause offense? A transgender woman is a transgender woman etc etc...