To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

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I am not excusing grooming, paedophile sex rings and unmonitored immigration at all but I hate all these protests.
I know that my white male ex teacher is a sex offender. Not to mention the Epstein scandal.
Aibu to think that ALL men are a danger to women...not just men of different ethnicities/ religions etc?

Yes if there’s a visa and a state to ask we can check and vet.

Domestic abuse victim characteristics, England and Wales - Office for National Statistics https://share.google/qaIOdQqDQxQlNhIRt is a link that gives some stats

Quantitative analysis of domestic homicide reviews: October 2022 to September 2023 (accessible) - GOV.UK https://share.google/dt3Z1TdghbRqfKEfE

Search DHRs: Search the Domestic Homicide Review Library – GOV.UK https://share.google/HE0Wf1ewACSKxibwY here you can filter victim and perpetrator by characteristics

That's not the argument. The argument is that men brought up in misogynist cultures will bring their misogyny to the UK and are incapable of acting within the law. They will sexually attack and harass women because that's their 'culture'.

Nobody said ‘all person from X country are incapable of acting within the law’.

We have said the average man coming from a deeply misogynistic country is more likely to be misogynistic.

If they’re not then who is oppressing the women? Can you answer?

I live in the femicide capital of Europe. Its not this way because of immigrants.

Of Europe. Not the world presumably?

So what you’re saying is that just because you come from a misogynist society with high rates of sexual abuse, it doesn't mean that you'll behave like that here.

I've never met a white American whose shot girls going to school but I don't think it's an unheard of phenomenon...

Is that sort of comment really necessary?

One of the comments about the Northern Ireland protests about migrants allegedly raping white girls was that people, mostly men, will protest about migrant men raping, but not about local white men raping. Given womens activism, the all women protests snout the rape of Sarah everard and many many others why do groups like Reclaim the Streets protest about all tapes and murders?

oh goody, must be at least 6 hours since the last "We hate men" thread on MN. I was starting to feel deprived...

Did you really type that? I mean sure , they might’ve not been specifically for going to school, but did all the school shootings in America pass you by? Or all the other mass shootings?

Were they part of a government drive to increase school shootings? Were the victims exclusively female? Is the motive for the killing deemed acceptable by the country’s theocracy?

I'm afraid that is the argument if you care to read the thread. That men from misogynist cultures (name a country that isn't), will import their behaviour here. You're well aware that sexual assault is illegal, therefore they're incapable of acting within the law.

One in four women will be abused in the UK and one in three will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime. The people abusing women are misogynists. That's who's oppressing women the world over. Check out the Whitehouse, millions voted for a sex offender.

Yes, of Europe.

I'm fortunate to not live in a country at war or a country actively rolling back women's rights. As you would expect femicide in those countries is off the scale.

My point is that Northern Ireland is the femicide capital of Europe. It is the most dangerous place to be a woman in Europe and that is not down to immigrants and immigration.

What point are you trying to make?

FFS this is just so disingenuous I’d be surprised if you didn’t feel faintly embarrassed writing it.

Let’s do a simple thought experiment.

You can be air dropped into either country - the USA or Afghanistan. Which do you choose?

Tommy Robinson called a woman a slag recently. But he's so concerned about thevsafety of women and girls.

It seems as though you can't counter the argument, so you're talking about air drops.

I’m not sure how they’d calculate percentages of dangerous men in relation to the size of the white/british or American population in comparison with the percentage of men of other nationalities with the UK/USA mainly white population.

But men who are dangerous to women are everywhere unfortunately.

This is an interesting article on this topic https://news.sky.com/story/fact-checking-farage-are-foreigners-more-likely-than-britons-to-commit-sexual-offences-13407029

as someone else pointed out, it depends on the culture of the country where someone comes from.

As less than 1% of reported sexual assaults lead to a conviction and more than 60% of assaults go unreported, how can anyone possibly draw any conclusions about the ethnicity or anything else of the perpetrators?

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You can’t counter anything. You can’t even admit men from deeply misogynist countries are more likely to be misogynistic which is a conclusion anyone with half a brain can draw. You’re so wedded to your imaginary view of multiculturalism, and desperate to call everyone racist, that you’re comparing the experiences of women in the UK to women in Afghanistan which is just so deplorable I don’t know how you can hit ‘post’ without feeling a bit nauseated. The epitome of a luxury belief. How would they feel if you said to them ‘oh don’t worry, men are just the same in England?’

You won’t get an answer.