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To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

843 replies

malificent7 · 08/08/2025 12:47

I am not excusing grooming, paedophile sex rings and unmonitored immigration at all but I hate all these protests.
I know that my white male ex teacher is a sex offender. Not to mention the Epstein scandal.
Aibu to think that ALL men are a danger to women...not just men of different ethnicities/ religions etc?

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Newbutoldfather · 11/08/2025 08:51

It’s crazy to talk about London as if it were one homogeneous city.

You have some of the very richest and very poorest areas in the country within London.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 11/08/2025 08:52

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 08:29

How will you determine which foreign nationals presence is detrimental for our country?

I'm guessing they're Muslims.

PandoraSocks · 11/08/2025 09:01

Newbutoldfather · 11/08/2025 08:51

It’s crazy to talk about London as if it were one homogeneous city.

You have some of the very richest and very poorest areas in the country within London.

Well that is exactly my point. London is diverse. All sorts of people living in the same neighbourhood.

Reform won't do well in the majority of boroughs.

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:02

Newbutoldfather · 11/08/2025 08:48

@TopPocketFind ,

‘Scools have adapted to their culture
What do you mean, how?’

As in Muslim schools segregating the sexes and teaching different curricula to boys and girls inter alia.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg9k37ywk2o.amp

One of the more egregious examples.

That's an Islamic school, not your average state school.

And it is under review.

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:10

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:05

Labour need some headlines, which is handily posted on here.

The polls aren’t looking great.

Julen7 · 11/08/2025 09:13

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:10

Labour need some headlines, which is handily posted on here.

The polls aren’t looking great.

Yes they are releasing a headline a day at the moment but nothing ever changes

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:13

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:10

Labour need some headlines, which is handily posted on here.

The polls aren’t looking great.

Do you disagree with deporting criminals?

BIossomtoes · 11/08/2025 09:13

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:05

Very sensible. You can only wonder why this didn’t happen long ago, it’s so obvious.

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:14

Julen7 · 11/08/2025 09:13

Yes they are releasing a headline a day at the moment but nothing ever changes

So you are against deporting more criminals and doing it faster?

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:16

Julen7 · 11/08/2025 09:13

Yes they are releasing a headline a day at the moment but nothing ever changes

It won’t shift much if the recent SM video re ‘deportation centres’ ie a few men and theatre doesn’t work.

Julen7 · 11/08/2025 09:17

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:14

So you are against deporting more criminals and doing it faster?

Just waiting to see if it actually happens, as always.

Julen7 · 11/08/2025 09:18

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:16

It won’t shift much if the recent SM video re ‘deportation centres’ ie a few men and theatre doesn’t work.

Yes thought that, what happened to the other 400 +

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:21

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:16

It won’t shift much if the recent SM video re ‘deportation centres’ ie a few men and theatre doesn’t work.

Remind us how many the Tories managed to send to Rwanda

BIossomtoes · 11/08/2025 09:22

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:21

Remind us how many the Tories managed to send to Rwanda

One, wasn’t it? And they volunteered.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 11/08/2025 09:25

BIossomtoes · 11/08/2025 09:22

One, wasn’t it? And they volunteered.

The scandal is they knew it was illegal and it cost over 700m.

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:25

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:21

Remind us how many the Tories managed to send to Rwanda

That Labour think this means much is why they’ll be surprised their SM attempts are a farce for everyone involved and / or profiting.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 11/08/2025 09:28

mondaytosunday · 08/08/2025 13:41

Yes any man can be a threat (as can a woman). I would not phrase it as ALL men ARE a danger to women though.
Looking at government statistics (which are limited, and in this case covers years 2012-2017) sexual offences (rape, assault or other of females, males and minors) 64% found guilty were perpetrated by people of white ethnicity, the remaining made up of black and Asian at around 6%; mixed, Chinese at about 1.5% and not stated at 20%. It does not specify the proportion of those that are male/female or other.

Yes any man can be a threat, this difference is cultural norms. The Epstein of this world are rightly vilified, child sex offenders are kept separate in prisons because most men tho they’re scum,

The problem arises if there are large numbers of men in society who have come from cultures where women already seen as possessions, have no rights and are less than. If s culture doesn’t see child marriage as problematic importing that culture into the UK is very problematic.

The difference is the white rapist and paedophile is going against cultural norms, the attitude of some migrants to women and children as possessions is the cultural norms of where they have come from

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:28

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:25

That Labour think this means much is why they’ll be surprised their SM attempts are a farce for everyone involved and / or profiting.

So you do not want to deport more criminals?

Nor do you want a deal with France over asylum seekers?

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:30

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:28

So you do not want to deport more criminals?

Nor do you want a deal with France over asylum seekers?

Former is just headlines for a struggling party.

On a deal what are you thinking will have an impact? The recent one in one out one?

Julen7 · 11/08/2025 09:32

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:28

So you do not want to deport more criminals?

Nor do you want a deal with France over asylum seekers?

Yes, we keep saying yes but we don’t think it will happen.

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:36

Julen7 · 11/08/2025 09:32

Yes, we keep saying yes but we don’t think it will happen.

Why don't you think it will happen?

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:39

EasternStandard · 11/08/2025 09:30

Former is just headlines for a struggling party.

On a deal what are you thinking will have an impact? The recent one in one out one?

Asylum agreements with the EU will have a impact and this pilot scheme with France is a start.

Julen7 · 11/08/2025 09:40

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 09:36

Why don't you think it will happen?

Because most they will use human rights law to stay. In a nutshell. Also the agreement with France has a measly 10 months to run. Nearly over before it’s started.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 11/08/2025 09:41

As we learn 25,000 undocumented migrants have arrived by boat so far this year ie a medium sized town, it’s clear we need to get much more robust on this issue. We simply cannot sustain these numbers.

We need to remove ourself from the ECHR if that is causing an issue. We need to make the UK a much less appealing place to come.

  1. arriving on the shores undocumented without a visa means never getting citizenship
  2. we need accommodation away from society until we can verify who these people are and be sure their values align with British values and they are willing to fully integrate The time could be used to educate on British values, culture and language.
  3. if the criteria on which they claim asylum changes then they should be deported. Eg if a man claims asylum on the basis he is gay snd subsequently marries or enters a relationship with a woman it as could be deemed he no longer needs to seek asylum.
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