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MIL on holiday with us at the moment but all she has done is mope

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Summerispantsthisyear · 06/08/2025 15:12

We’re currently on holiday somewhere in Greece & have bought my husband’s Mum (who I get on with well) with us for around a week, she was widowed late last year & we thought it would be a lovely break for her, she’s close to our child (& we do not expect childcare at all) . We’ve paid for her flights & accommodation in a beautiful apartment but all she has done is sit on her own, barely spoken to any of us & wallow in almost self pity, making it really difficult for us to enjoy the first part of our family holiday. She took it upon herself without asking to invite a niece & partner of hers who are staying close by to join us at our apartment for drinks today but they’re now not coming, she’s upset & frankly I’ve found the whole first part of the trip exhausting having to tread on eggshells the entire time. I absolutely hate to sound selfish & thought we were doing the right thing but it’s been an absolute disaster & I feel horrible. I had an honest chat with her last night hoping things would change today but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears & we’re all back to square one. I feel awful even writing this but need to get it off my chest.

OP posts:
LindorDoubleChoc · 06/08/2025 19:52

ErlingHaalandsManBun · 06/08/2025 17:49

Fucking hell some of the responses on here, honest to god I despair.

The poor woman is grieving. Grief isn't linear and she is obviously really struggling and needs understanding not telling her that she is miserable and moping.

Everyone deals with things differently. Not everyone can 'just get on with it' and not everyone can just put a smile on when they are feeling broken inside.

Maybe she went because she thought it would be good for her but on getting there has realised how much she is missing her husband.

Her first holiday without him and she is probably thinking of all the things he is missing out on. God forbid that she feel a little down about it.

She probably feels lonely too. It is possible to be surrounded by people/family and still feel lonely and the void she is feeling from not having her husband with her could be really affecting her.

Have a bloody heart people.

Yes, in hindsight she probably shouldn't have come and may have been better at home.

The woman needs some space, some understanding and some gentleness and to be shown patience and some empathy. If she doesn't want to join in things then so be it. No reason for you to not enjoy your holiday too.

Put yourself in her shoes, or rather, hope you won't one day be in her shoes.

Melodramatic much? Some people feel that MIL could have had some foresight and stayed at home. No one's suggesting she is not allowed to grieve. Give it a rest.

JustMyView13 · 06/08/2025 19:55

VaseofViolets · 06/08/2025 19:18

I don’t need you to tell me what grief is when a husband dies. I know, because I’ve lived it. My opinion might differ from yours but it’s no less valid.

Then I hope your family extended more empathy towards you, than your comment demonstrated you might be willing to show OP’s MIL.
You’ll know that someone grieving is not responsible for entertaining the people around them. Particularly when those people are supposed to be family.

Arlanymor · 06/08/2025 19:56

LindorDoubleChoc · 06/08/2025 19:52

Melodramatic much? Some people feel that MIL could have had some foresight and stayed at home. No one's suggesting she is not allowed to grieve. Give it a rest.

You’re missing the point that people grieving don’t know how they will feel at any given point. Should everyone in grief just lock themselves in a cupboard until their ‘misery’ won’t impact on others? How long would that take do you think?

Or this is about a woman who thought that a holiday with her family might lift her spirits but found the opposite. Plus we only have OP’s words that she’s ‘moping’ - for all we know, she’s having a few quiet moments to herself and it’s just that she is not too keen on doing a conga down in the Old Town…

PS. Telling people with opposite views to you to ‘give it a rest’ is tiresome and rude.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 06/08/2025 19:58

Movinghouseatlast · 06/08/2025 18:58

You are totally projecting what happened to you onto the OP. Her mother in law hasn't been vile, wanted to go out drinking or lock anyone in their bedroom. She is simply grief stricken.

According to some of these posters she should be doing that. Because how dare a recent widow be trying to get on with her life whilst still in the trenches and feeling unbearably sad.

DBD1975 · 06/08/2025 20:00

Your MIL is grieving, a year is nothing in terms of processing her loss. She will be thinking about her husband and their holidays in the past, try not to be too hard on her, she might be surrounded by family but she is alone in her grief.

DBD1975 · 06/08/2025 20:03

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 06/08/2025 15:42

I have all the sympathy in the world for a woman who's grieving and I'm sure no one is expecting her to be jumping up and down with glee at all times. But sadness is not the same as being miserable, and there's really no excuse for being a negative nelly to the detriment of everyone around you.

That is the thing with grief you cannot control it and you cannot control how you feel from one minute to the next.

Thanksman · 06/08/2025 20:06

Arlanymor · 06/08/2025 19:56

You’re missing the point that people grieving don’t know how they will feel at any given point. Should everyone in grief just lock themselves in a cupboard until their ‘misery’ won’t impact on others? How long would that take do you think?

Or this is about a woman who thought that a holiday with her family might lift her spirits but found the opposite. Plus we only have OP’s words that she’s ‘moping’ - for all we know, she’s having a few quiet moments to herself and it’s just that she is not too keen on doing a conga down in the Old Town…

PS. Telling people with opposite views to you to ‘give it a rest’ is tiresome and rude.

Edited

And all we have to go on are two posts from the OP herself who never bothered to return to answer any pertinent questions that could have given us a better picture/understanding. Her posts were completely one sided, inviting all to agree and thankfully many didn’t, which is probably the reason we never heard from her again.

Arlanymor · 06/08/2025 20:07

Thanksman · 06/08/2025 20:06

And all we have to go on are two posts from the OP herself who never bothered to return to answer any pertinent questions that could have given us a better picture/understanding. Her posts were completely one sided, inviting all to agree and thankfully many didn’t, which is probably the reason we never heard from her again.

Edited

I agree. Usually people don’t respond because they are seeking validation that doesn’t come.

ThirtyFortyTwenty · 06/08/2025 20:16

Summerispantsthisyear · 06/08/2025 15:12

We’re currently on holiday somewhere in Greece & have bought my husband’s Mum (who I get on with well) with us for around a week, she was widowed late last year & we thought it would be a lovely break for her, she’s close to our child (& we do not expect childcare at all) . We’ve paid for her flights & accommodation in a beautiful apartment but all she has done is sit on her own, barely spoken to any of us & wallow in almost self pity, making it really difficult for us to enjoy the first part of our family holiday. She took it upon herself without asking to invite a niece & partner of hers who are staying close by to join us at our apartment for drinks today but they’re now not coming, she’s upset & frankly I’ve found the whole first part of the trip exhausting having to tread on eggshells the entire time. I absolutely hate to sound selfish & thought we were doing the right thing but it’s been an absolute disaster & I feel horrible. I had an honest chat with her last night hoping things would change today but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears & we’re all back to square one. I feel awful even writing this but need to get it off my chest.

That sounds awful, you have my sympathy. Lesson learned though - don’t repeat the invitation.

LizzieW1969 · 06/08/2025 20:23

BySassyGreenPanda · 06/08/2025 19:03

I suspect if it was OP's mother, this thread wouldn't exist....

That’s true, because in many cases the OP would have lost her DF so they would be supporting each other in their mutual loss. That would also be so if it were a long-time stepdad who had died.

it is different when it’s the FIL who died, as usually the relationship isn’t that close. My FIL died in a car accident 7 months after my DH and I got married. My MIL was a mess for a long time afterwards. I tried very hard to be empathic, but for at least 18 months afterwards she would go on about the accident and complain about the police investigation. (She couldn’t accept that her DH had made a mistake.)

We did have family holidays with her, and they were at times very uncomfortable. My SIL found this, too, especially since she’d recently had their third baby, which was hardly spoken about.

I wasn’t always as empathetic as I should have been. It didn’t help that I was also supporting my DSis through a difficult divorce after an abusive marriage. Or that I worked for the solicitor who was handling my MIL’s insurance claim and had typed the letters explaining the circumstances of the accident to her.

My MIL is actually the nicest person you could meet and a lovely grandma to our 2 DDs, and, 21 years later, I’ve really grown to appreciate her. It just took a very long time for her to come to terms with what happened to her DH and, whilst she was indeed very difficult to be around at times, I do wish I’d been more empathetic to her than I was.

LizzieW1969 · 06/08/2025 20:24

ThirtyFortyTwenty · 06/08/2025 20:16

That sounds awful, you have my sympathy. Lesson learned though - don’t repeat the invitation.

That’s not nice. The MIL won’t always be like this, she’ll come to terms with her loss. The OP herself says they had a good relationship before.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 06/08/2025 20:25

ThirtyFortyTwenty · 06/08/2025 20:16

That sounds awful, you have my sympathy. Lesson learned though - don’t repeat the invitation.

No sympathy for the grieving mil though.

StrongandNorthern · 06/08/2025 20:26

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 06/08/2025 15:29

Sometimes being too nice just gives this type of person permission to get worse and worse. It's not actually helpful or supportive to MIL either, because validating/enabling her means she's less likely to pull herself out of the funk.

'This type of person'.
A bereaved one then?
FFS.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 06/08/2025 20:27

StrongandNorthern · 06/08/2025 20:26

'This type of person'.
A bereaved one then?
FFS.

I know! It’s just a ‘funk’ though.

A life changing traumatic loss is just a funk.

catlovingdoctor · 06/08/2025 20:28

ThejoyofNC · 06/08/2025 15:37

If she wasn't prepared to go and enjoy it then she should have stayed at home and declined your offer. Really selfish to go on someone's holiday and spoil it.

I agree. If she was still so grief-stricken as to not enjoy it to the point of ruining it for her loved ones she should have had the self-awareness to not go.

Tiredofallthis101 · 06/08/2025 20:32

I understand why she's upset but I'd leave her to it if she's not up for doing stuff. Offer her the opportunity - oh Sally we are just off out to the beach, you're welcome to join? If she declines - want us to bring anything back for you? Just try to be supportive but don't let the sadness drown you all. DH should have a private chat and see if there's anything that would make her feel better. Perhaps some 121 time for them and you escape for some me time for a few hours?

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 06/08/2025 20:33

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 06/08/2025 20:27

I know! It’s just a ‘funk’ though.

A life changing traumatic loss is just a funk.

Yes, I've revised my comment.

I still stand by my earlier comments if the MIL was being horrible or negative or complaining and actively ruining others' enjoyment which is the impression I got at first reading, for whatever reason. That's why I said that's very different to being sad. Grief, however awful it is, is not an excuse for behaving badly with others. But in this situation that isn't the case at all! So if you keep reading you'll see that I've already adjusted my answer.

Anyway I'll let people read through from now on rather than replying every time someone doesn't join the dots. I mean at least I bothered to come back and take it back!

Thanksman · 06/08/2025 20:34

catlovingdoctor · 06/08/2025 20:28

I agree. If she was still so grief-stricken as to not enjoy it to the point of ruining it for her loved ones she should have had the self-awareness to not go.

Maybe her son wanted her there and she’d hoped they could feel closer over their shared grief, and she went for the grandchild too. Maybe she was hoping to see her niece who she seemed close to (more comfortable with), maybe a lot of things together with her grief. Perhaps she regretted going and it didn’t feel she could express this. Maybe, unlike what the dil professes, they don’t get on that well. We can’t know. What we do know is she is grieving.

ErlingHaalandsManBun · 06/08/2025 20:39

LindorDoubleChoc · 06/08/2025 19:52

Melodramatic much? Some people feel that MIL could have had some foresight and stayed at home. No one's suggesting she is not allowed to grieve. Give it a rest.

Me melodramatic!? 😂Okay.

How can MIL have some foresight when she might not have realised how going on holiday without her husband was going to make her feel. Sometimes we don't know how we are going to feel about something until we do it.

I will 'give it a rest' as you say, when some people on here have some bloody compassion for a grieving widow. Complaining that she is moping? FFS!

prelovedusername · 06/08/2025 20:45

I lost my mum four years ago and I swear some days it hits me more than in the days immediately after. Grieving is unpredictable, it doesn't conveniently go away when you're in company.

Maybe when the holiday was arranged she thought she'd be in a better place. Maybe she knew she wasn't ready but was worried about letting people down by not coming.

MN is brutal sometimes.

brunettemic · 06/08/2025 20:47

VaseofViolets · 06/08/2025 15:22

Then she shouldn’t have gone. Seeing as she did, she doesn’t have the right to spoil it for anyone else.

OP is letting her spoil it. She doesn’t need to do that and it’s well within her control to enjoy her holiday still.

Hobbes8 · 06/08/2025 20:49

What’s she actually done though? Been a bit quiet and sad, and invited your husband’s cousin over?

Arlanymor · 06/08/2025 20:51

LizzieW1969 · 06/08/2025 20:23

That’s true, because in many cases the OP would have lost her DF so they would be supporting each other in their mutual loss. That would also be so if it were a long-time stepdad who had died.

it is different when it’s the FIL who died, as usually the relationship isn’t that close. My FIL died in a car accident 7 months after my DH and I got married. My MIL was a mess for a long time afterwards. I tried very hard to be empathic, but for at least 18 months afterwards she would go on about the accident and complain about the police investigation. (She couldn’t accept that her DH had made a mistake.)

We did have family holidays with her, and they were at times very uncomfortable. My SIL found this, too, especially since she’d recently had their third baby, which was hardly spoken about.

I wasn’t always as empathetic as I should have been. It didn’t help that I was also supporting my DSis through a difficult divorce after an abusive marriage. Or that I worked for the solicitor who was handling my MIL’s insurance claim and had typed the letters explaining the circumstances of the accident to her.

My MIL is actually the nicest person you could meet and a lovely grandma to our 2 DDs, and, 21 years later, I’ve really grown to appreciate her. It just took a very long time for her to come to terms with what happened to her DH and, whilst she was indeed very difficult to be around at times, I do wish I’d been more empathetic to her than I was.

Thank you for your lovely and honest post. Sometimes we just do the best we can at the time and look back and think we could have done more. But the testament is the relationship you have today. ❤️

Thanksman · 06/08/2025 20:52

Arlanymor · 06/08/2025 20:51

Thank you for your lovely and honest post. Sometimes we just do the best we can at the time and look back and think we could have done more. But the testament is the relationship you have today. ❤️

I agree, it’s lovely. ❤️

Arlanymor · 06/08/2025 20:54

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 06/08/2025 20:27

I know! It’s just a ‘funk’ though.

A life changing traumatic loss is just a funk.

I thought the funk was a style of music - now I know it's just a bit of tiddly fiddly grief.

And I also know now that we shouldn't 'enable/validate' it - because why WOULD you enable or validate people's legitimate feelings of loss?!

Much better to ignore them and get the Ouzo down your necks before the midnight disco down in the bar!

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