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AIBU?

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to be feeling so upset over this?

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SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 10:25

Hi everyone, I just need to get something off my chest and maybe hear some outside perspectives because I’m really struggling with how I'm feeling at the moment.
For context, over the years we’ve been on a few family holidays that included myself, my husband and our kids, my in-laws (his parents), and my husband’s sister and her family. While we’ve generally had good times but it's not always been 'perfect'. My husband and his sister parent very differently, and that’s caused a few minor issues in the past. Things like me saying yes to our kids having an ice cream and her saying no to hers – which then leads to meltdowns and somehow becomes our fault. Nothing huge, just little clashes now and then.
However, the last holiday we went on together a few years ago ended badly. After a minor issue about splashing in the pool, my sister-in-law completely lost it with my husband in front of everyone – shouting that he’s a rubbish parent, that I’m lazy, and even saying her kids are scared of him. It was really awful. She accused him of “puffing out his chest trying to be the big man” which couldn’t have been further from the truth. He stood silently and in shock, didn’t react, and just walked away and was actually gutted about what she said and they way she said it in front of everyone. It felt to me like it came from years of built-up resentment she hadn’t addressed. I still get quite emotional thinking about it.
After that, both my husband and his sister (separately) told their parents that they wouldn’t be doing any more big family holidays – the tension was too much. We cancelled the holiday we had already booked for the following year. We didn’t speak at all for months, but eventually we got to a place where we could be civil again. Things are ok now but nothing like before.
Now on to my problem... my sister-in-law recently booked a family holiday and invited my in-laws who agreed to going with them. They’ve all gone away together – and we weren’t even considered. Not even a message or conversation to see how we felt about it. My MIL only told us after it was already booked. I know we said we wouldn’t do joint holidays again, and truthfully we probably would’ve said no anyway. But to not even be included in the discussion – especially after working to be civil again – feels like a slap in the face. I wouldn't even consider asking my in laws to come on a holiday with us because I wouldn't want to put them in an awkward situation and I wouldn't want to put my nieces and nephews in a position where they would feel excluded.
I’m heartbroken for my kids, who now see their grandparents and cousins on a holiday without them. It feels like such a massive step backwards for our family, like we’re being pushed out. I just can’t shake the feeling of being excluded and like we don’t matter. I've cried multiple times since they went last week.
Am I being unreasonable to be so upset about it or do I just need to get a grip?

OP posts:
waitingforpost · 06/08/2025 10:43

I've never understood why people go on these "one big happy family" holidays in the first place.

Some of us like & get on with our families 🤷🏻‍♀️

NautilusLionfish · 06/08/2025 10:43

You want them to invite you so you can say no? They were probably trying to avoid an awkward discussion and the off chance that your family accept. This is fine. Its for the best.

foodtoorder · 06/08/2025 10:45

You are being unreasonable.

You have said you don't want to holiday with them, in your post you said you wouldn't go so what is the issue?
Your in laws haven't made it a secret that they are going.
Why are your kids seeing that their grandparents are holidaying with cousins unless you show them?

You sound like you are mourning the loss of the relationship you thought you had with the wider family and a touch of fear of missing out. You can be upset about it ofcourse but they haven't done anything wrong.

RantzNotBantz · 06/08/2025 10:45

I think you are wanting to have your cake and eat it.

You know, objectively, that shared holidays don’t work, and so do they. It’s good that some progress has been made and it would be a shame to set that back by another hol in which you give your kids ice cream in front of hers…(you needed to have some shared agreement about things like ice creams)

Anyway… the inability of your DH and SIL to be on hol together should not preclude his parents from ever enjoying a hol with their grandkids. You were more focussed on the row than the solution - which was obviously for the grandparents to holiday alternately.

Relax, don’t take it personally, ask them to holiday with you next year if you want to,

BauhausOfEliott · 06/08/2025 10:45

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 10:33

Thank you for your perspective. I think I know I'm being ridiculous really - I just don't know why I'm feeling so upset over it. I guess because they are doing something that I wouldn't do??

So what if they're doing something you wouldn't do? People are allowed to do things differently, you know. You can't expect your way of doing things to be the norm all the time just because it happens to be your preference.

Mauvehoodie · 06/08/2025 10:45

I get you feeling upset, you felt there was an unspoken rule that none of you would do holidays together. Then you find out that a holiday had been quietly booked. But, look at it like SIL has done you a favour. If you want, you and DH can invite in-laws on holiday. I think it'd be nice for your in-laws to still be able to have holidays with GC, they're just individual rather than whole family. What was in-laws opinion on the SIL blowing up at your DH? Could they understand her reasons?

PrincessCalley · 06/08/2025 10:46

YABU. I holiday with my parents almost every year. We never ask my brother to come. He has come in the past but he's now in a very different place than I am with very small kids so it wouldn't be a holiday for anyone. If he wants to holiday with them I'd have no issue with it. And we have a good relationship. Why would you be asked when you all don't get on? Bring your inlaws with you if you want.

BUMCHEESE · 06/08/2025 10:47

You're being wildly unreasonable I'm afraid. They can invite who they want on holiday.

Mrsttcno1 · 06/08/2025 10:48

YABU OP. You said no more family holidays, and you’ve also said here that you would have said no anyway. Did you think that meant you were able to prevent them doing their own holidays?!

Tygertiger · 06/08/2025 10:48

YABU. We holiday with parents frequently and wouldn’t think to invite siblings because we have very different routines and it wouldn’t work. If siblings want to do a separate holiday with parents, absolutely fine and dandy. You said you would never do a big holiday again, you didn’t speak for months - you cannot expect the others to never go away together. Invite your parents on a holiday next year.

Chompingatthebeat · 06/08/2025 10:52

The sister sounds awful and think she has handled everything v badly, causing such alot of pain

EzioAuditore · 06/08/2025 10:52

But you’re not being excluded? You said you weren’t interested in going as a full group anymore (rightly so, by the sounds of it!), and they’re honouring that. It’s unfair to suggest that SIL can’t go on holiday with her own parents, or that your ILs can’t go on holiday with their daughter (or son, as you haven’t invited them away with you either).

Surely this is the best scenario all round! You don’t have to suffer a full family trip and the ILs just end up with two holidays, one with their daughter’s family and one with their son’s. I really don’t understand why you’ve been crying multiple times about it.

WhenInRomeDoAsTheRomansDo · 06/08/2025 10:53

@SunnyStrawberries

Was there some truth in what the SIL said to your husband?

As you say it sounds like years of built up resentment boiled over so it must have been a pattern of behaviour that has antagonised her. Why didn't they talk about it and try to get to the root of the problem?

Maybe you are miffed because you deep down want your Inlaws ro chose your family as a validation that the behaviour she accused you both of isn't true and they're siding with you. But they're not going to do that so it leaves you with an uncomfortable feeling that maybe the SIL might have had a point?

You obviously feel insecure about something or you wouldn't be feeling this way.

RantzNotBantz · 06/08/2025 10:53

I wouldn't even consider asking my in laws to come on a holiday with us because I wouldn't want to put them in an awkward situation

How do you know it would out then in an ‘awkward situation’ ? Your DH and SIL both made it clear that they won’t be on the same holiday so both are equal in that. It’s only awkward if anyone takes a ‘two tribes go to war’ family feud position . As you appear to have done. The ILs have simply accepted the fact that they can’t holiday with both their children.

They are bring mature and matter of fact about a situation. You are perhaps bring less mature, and seeing it as ‘taking sides’ if the poor ILs go on hol with their own Dd.

It was your polarising ‘feud’ assumption that prevented you inviting them yourself.

How is your DH about this ? Is he crying repeatedly?

Bestfootforward11 · 06/08/2025 10:55

It sounds like this is emotional all round and there’s stuff here that is going to take a long time to be resolved. Just to add some thoughts that I hope might be helpful. You mentioned not being involved in the ‘discussion’, but what does this mean? A discussion sounds like it means trying to sort things out on a deeper level but perhaps no one is ready for that yet. If you just mean being asked if you wanted to come, in light of the fact of what happened last year and it’s only more recently that things have got more civil, it sounds like that’s too soon. And you clearly feel like that too as you’ve said you’d have likely said no anyway. If they had asked you/DH and you’d said no, that would’ve likely caused upset too. And you and your DH haven’t invited them all either, his sister etc might say she’s upset at that. So I think you need to let things settle. Things need to go from being civil to actually getting on so that a holiday is viable. You might be feeling hurt for your DH but to be honest, he needs to take steps to discuss things with his sister or navigate the issue, whatever it may be. Best wishes.

Helpmeplease2025 · 06/08/2025 10:55

You agreed no holidays again, and sounds like absolutely correct way to proceed. That doesn’t mean they cannot still holiday with your IL’s, just as you can?

Why should PIL not be able to holiday with DGC again, because you all can’t get on? Separate holidays sounds perfect (and normal, IMO). Not many people go on whole family holidays every time.

This is a massive overreaction.

outerspacepotato · 06/08/2025 10:56

"After that, both my husband and his sister (separately) told their parents that they wouldn’t be doing any more big family holidays – the tension was too much. We cancelled the holiday we had already booked for the following year. "

Your husband and his sister won't go on holiday together. That doesn't mean either can't holiday separately and have their parents along.

Things changed when your husband's sister and he fell out. Just because you're now all civil doesn't mean his sister wants to holiday with you. There's still bad feelings there. That's why they didn't ask you. You even said you would probably say no, so I don't understand why you think they should have asked you.

Hankunamatata · 06/08/2025 10:56

You told them you didnt want to do anymore family holidays but expect to be invited on family holiday?????
Your mad

Gouache · 06/08/2025 10:56

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 10:33

Thank you for your perspective. I think I know I'm being ridiculous really - I just don't know why I'm feeling so upset over it. I guess because they are doing something that I wouldn't do??

Why not? You didn’t want to be involved in more family holidays and said so — they’re just respecting that.

MsMimi87 · 06/08/2025 10:58

But.. you both said separately no more family holiday why on earth would she then go back on that and ask you?
Would you ask her and her family? Why? You said no more family holidays

And why should parent in laws "miss out" if family holidays are their thing. Invite parent in laws on yours if you like just no sil!

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:00

Ablondiebutagoody · 06/08/2025 10:30

I don't see the big deal. Why can't your in-laws go on holiday with their daughter without you? Why can't you go with the in-laws on another occasion if you want to?

Thank you. Of course they can go on holiday I just didn't think they would. I hadn't even considered going seperately with the in laws to avoid any further upset and awkwardness. I think maybe it's not the holiday i'm upset about but actually just the whole fall out?

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pestowithwalnuts · 06/08/2025 11:02

TheDandyLion · 06/08/2025 10:33

You both said you weren't going to do the holiday again and you're upset because they've stayed true to their word?

Exactly this.
It's ridiculous that you're getting upset over this when you'd already agreed to do this every thing
Anyway..think of it this way..you'd be treading on eggshells and be worrying all the time that you were putting a foot wrong

DappledThings · 06/08/2025 11:03

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:00

Thank you. Of course they can go on holiday I just didn't think they would. I hadn't even considered going seperately with the in laws to avoid any further upset and awkwardness. I think maybe it's not the holiday i'm upset about but actually just the whole fall out?

Why on earth not? It seems like your interpretation of an agreement that all 10 people won't go on holiday together again means that a subset of 6 people can't go on holiday together is very much in your own head.

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:04

waitingforpost · 06/08/2025 10:34

I think it's weird to want an invite when you said you didn't want to go. They may have thought asking you would have caused a row as you would be remembering the row. They told you and didn't keep it a secret.

Will you say, next time can you invite us?

Sorry i don' think i explained very well. I didn't want an invite - I just wanted our feelings to be considered but after reading these replies I can see I'm being unreasonable feeling hurt

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Daleksatemyshed · 06/08/2025 11:04

YABU Op wouldn't it be worse if they'd discussed it with you only to tell you again why you weren't invited? Even if you went how could you relax waiting for the next big row?

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