Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

[Holmints]

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

It's a much more adult conversation between people who qualify and don't choose WLIs Vs the extreme investment people who wouldn't qualify for them take in the subject.

I've never heard an obese people who either doesn't want to try them, or who tried and didn't like them, refer to users as you would tweens trying vapes!

It's extremely strange, and a source of the aforementioned rage that weight loss gives me.

The really interesting thing to me and something that I truly hope is considered in a wider context and explored in more depth is how much of an impact insulin regulation has had on so many people and why it’s taken buying GLP1 medications privately for people to receive treatment.

i have known with medical proof that I do not produce enough insulin since I was 23. That’s when the Dr’s ran blood test, did ultrasounds and confirmed that I had insulin resistant PCOS. That was also when they handed it off to me as my problem and refused to offer any treatment beyond a patronising look and the words ‘you need to lose weight’.

When I was pregnant at 30, I developed Gestational diabetes, I was treated for the duration of my pregnancy then all treatment was stopped, I was never offered ongoing testing and I was told I needed to lose weight.

I tried, it didn’t work.

i then was diagnosed with T2 diabetes at 41 and given medication and low and behold I have been able to lose weight.

How many people out there are struggling everyday with symptoms that could be resolved with adequate testing, diagnoses and then crucially treatment for their medical conditions, rather than being left to get more and more ill and made to feel like a useless waste of time and resources at the same time?

Similar to that I had a GP in my 20s who was ex endocrine specialist who said that he suspected that my hormonal normal was different to the clinical range. I.e. that I presented with symptoms that indicate hormonal causes yet my bloods looked fine, he suspected that the optimal normal ranges for me were a different range and planned to keep an eye on that.

But unfortunately he retired and I've had crap GPs since

But I've always felt hormonally off balance (I'm not talking about sex hormones)

And WLIs give me a normality that I never had, which I think only people who have found themselves on the right meds after years of things being wrong, will understand

The huge lie that people want to perpetuate about people who take WLIs is this:

That we are tryna give ourselves a head start, to skip the effort, jump straight to finish etc.

All we are really doing is levelling the playing field for ourselves.

It seems to bother people that fat people had the same will power and information as them all along, they just genuinely did have it easier as their GLP-1 wasn't outta whack!

And I was not flexing my bachelors.

I personally think, that Qualifications, while an achievement in themselves, are just one thing that a person does.

Qualifications don't make one person worth more than another. Especially as education often depends on financial circumstances.

So a person from a rich family who achieved a Master's degree is not worth more than Sarah from a poor family who couldnt get to University because she couldnt get the grades needed, as she was spending a lot of time looking after her younger siblings, trying to survive, and had no energy to study.

I was just replying to a poster who called me dim, that I know that I am not dim, because in test conditions that were set for me, i achieved the highest mark possible

Yes.

There obviously are people who are taking WLIs in order to starve themselves and lose weight in a way that goes against prescribing guidelines, just like there are people abusing painkillers, and ADHD medications and any other kind of drug.

I can tell you exactly what I have eaten every single day for the last year, I track my calories and make sure I eat a good balance of macros, the only thing I heavily restrict is carbs because I need to keep my blood sugars under control and my body can’t handle them.

i eat a realistic and healthy amount of calories and have lost weight at an average weight of 1.6 lbs per week, with that slowing as I have entered the healthy BMI range because in order to continue losing at that rate I would need to cut my calories too low for my comfort and health.

It has taken work and dedication, I have to exercise self control and remain consistent, the weight hasn’t just fallen off without any effort. The crucial difference this time is that the work has paid off, if I follow the rules of calories in vs calories out then I actually lose weight and feel satiated. That didn’t happen before.

Look nobody cares about your education, you brought it up to prove you were making logical and sensible arguements on here, despite all evidence to the contrary

And failed.

Were you always that rude and ignorant, or is it a new -ish thing?

I provided multiple links and facts,

you couldn't cope that you had your arse handed to you,
so you started throwing insults.

Like I said, I was much more jolly when I was fat before the fat phobes started coming at me for using WLIs to lose weight and maintain my health!

Yes that's exactly it. You can go and rest now. Your mission is complete. We thank you, so long.

I'm staying right here.

Oh fgs love give OVER!

NO!

Obviously I know that the B in B.A or BSc degrees stands for Bachelors. I have a B.A. (Hons) myself. But no one ever actually says they have a 'Bachelors' degree. If they have a B.A or B.Sc they just say they have a degree because the fact it is a Bachelors degree is already a given. Gaining your Honours isn't a given and not every degree is a Honours degree.

But I digress. Your utterly dogmatic and inflexible attitude and total inability to 'read the room' leads me to suspect you are not the full shilling@pamelanoon and it's not appropriate to mock you.

It is appropriate to mock you though as your second post again shows a lot of lack of understanding about the world.

You wrote "no one ever says that they have a Bachelors degree".

Where? In the U.K.?

You are aware that there is more than one country, right?

Your inabilty to grasp this extremely simple concept suggests that it is you who is not the full shilling

Really never seen anyone say that, but I suppose if you look you’ll find them, who cares about someone else thinks about themselves fat or thin.

God. Look we all know what a degree is. We all know a first is academically better than a third. We know your degree is important to you. But it's got fuck all to do with the OG question of why seemingly happy fat people enjoy being thinner when presented with a really helpful tool to achieve that.
This might be a weird game to you, pointing sticks at the fatties, but the people you are arguing with are all fucking fed up of defending both their weight and their informed decisions about how to lose that weight. Derailing a conversation like you have chosen to do so just adds to the frustration.

I suppose that’s because for the vast majority, WLI are life savers. Some experience mild side effects, some none at all. A small number experience serious side effects. Same as most drugs. But nobody would be saying this about any other drug - just the ones relating to weight loss. Because so many people think they’re unnecessary. If your sister had experienced bad side effects from any other drug, you’d chalk that up to being unlucky. You’d not be telling everyone about it and advising them not to use them.

Try to follow the thread.

No one said that no one knows what a degree is.

Araminta wrote to me in an extremely bizarre post that I was lying about having a Degree because I wrote that I had a Bachelor's Degree. She said thay no one called it that.

I then replied to her

It's very hard to follow the thread when you've made it all about you.

Not only that but if you had side effects from any other drug, people's first suggestion would usually be to suggest you go back to your provider to try a different dose or preparation or brand rather than "SEE you silly thing! You just wanted it because your friends were on it didn't you? I hope you've learnt your lesson" then quote your medical history as a cautionary tale to everyone and anyone who will listen

Cause fat people apparently don't age past 14!

It is only difficult to understand for the hard of thinking.

Why does everyone say they love being fat............

Lets be honest, no one aspires to be fat. Sometimes our bodies let us down, whatever the condition/symptom/disease is. Learning to love themselves and the body they have, and could not change, is not wrong. Some people just happen to show the self love more vocally than others on certain media platforms that encourage this.

..............until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

They don't "get their hands on skinny jabs" they get prescribed a medical treatment for a disease.

Regardless of what condition they had in the past and had to learn to embrace - now it can be treated, are they not allowed to still love themselves? Would you think the same for other conditions or is it just obesity?

When someone finds something to make their health better what kind of person feels the need to call them out on it? Can someone not love who they are and still want to change to be healthier now a medical treatment for their condition is available? It doesn't need to be one or the other.

Sorry but losing so much weight so quickly doesn’t sound any healthier to me than being overweight (which I am) in the first place. I’ve always understood you have a better chance of maintaining if you lose slowly. The jabs feel like instant gratification which is pretty much what most people want these days and that doesn’t sit right with me. I wish it did because I’d love to be 5 stone lighter in 6 months but I’ve been told by a medical professional that they don’t recommend them 🤷🏻‍♀️

I lost 1lb a week, totalling 3.5 stone. Came off them 10 months ago and have maintained my weight ever since.