Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

[Holmints]

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

If people think it's worked for them? Why did you feel the need to put if in there? Why would you not expect people to know that it's working for them?
I've dropped 4.5 stone on it, which is great in itself. But I've also dropped over 15% body fat and 8% visceral fat and as confirmed this week reduced my blood glucose back into the normal range from prediabetes.
No ifs, tangible improvements to my health.

God its like a cult.

If anyone criticises WLI in any form, the users go crazy

No, you have to have an obese BMI to buy or to get it on the NHS, but the NHS threshold is higher

You can qualify with a slightly lower BMI if you have certain obesity related co morbidities, but again you have to be much worse off for NHS Vs to buy

You don't have any kind of degree. No one I know ever refers to it as a 'Bachelors' degree, and I worked in academia for over 10 years. And neither would they ever write it down as a 1:1 either. It's known as a First.

You clearly just hastily googled 'What is the top degree?' or similar and copied and pasted it into your post.

You have to have a BMI of over 30 to qualify (or over 27 from certain ethnicities or with certain co morbities). This doesn’t mean you’re eligible to get it free on the NHS, it just means you’re eligible to purchase it from a licensed provider, provided they deem it suitable for you. The criteria to get it prescribed on the NHS is far more stringent (not sure exactly what it is, I purchased mine).

As long as you have no medical contraindications, you can order it online from a pharmacy privately with a BMI of 30 or above. If you have a weight related condition like diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol etc then you may be approved with a BMI of 27 or above.

on the NhS the current eligibility criteria are BMI 40 or above and 4 weight related medical conditions, or T2 diabetes that has failed to adequately respond to 3 standardly prescribed diabetes medications,

You only read the parts of posts that suit you don't you?

Personally I've listed many criticisms as well as benefits, it's almost as if I weighed up my decision!!! but that doesn't fit your "profile" of WLI users does it?

Or people are just telling you the real, tangible ways it’s worked for them in the face of someone telling them that they only think it’s worked for them.
Why are you so reluctant to believe that this is a valuable medication for many people?

Fuck me this is ridiculous. I know I’m influenced my marketing, everyone is, without exception. I’m a chartered marketeer.
I also know that this drug has worked for me, with real, tangible benefits. My health indicators have all improved.
The fact that money has been spent on marketing does not mean that it’s not a valuable medication. Just like someone marketing travel insurance doesn’t mean it’s not a useful product.

Lets not forget, Not only did the makers of ozempic spend money on marketing in the UK,

the makers of Ozempic also got suspended from the British pharmaceutical Industry ABPI for

"serious breaches of the code of practice"

So what do you think is the difference between you and me?

If we have both been targeted by the same marketing.

I have a higher level of education than Batchelors (since you find that relevant to this)

Why might I decide to take it when someone else might decide not to. And why does only the latter indicate any sort of critical thoughts process to you?

Still doesn’t mean it’s not a valuable medication that works for many people. Why are you so reluctant to believe that it works? There is much, much research and data to show that it works, and has health benefits beyond weight loss.
(Ozempic has never been available to purchase for weight loss in the U.K.)

Just to add to the above, I didn't just take it, I stayed in it. I've been on it for quite a while now.

Yes. Yes. You are absolutely right. I totally concur.

Now, can you please, please for the love of God Just. Stop. Droning. On. And. Derailing. The. Thread.

Please.

What a funny response.
Could you show me where you think I went 'crazy' in this post? You wrote something rather inflammatory and I have replied with accurate information about how this medication has improved my own health.
I've rarely seen any WLI users 'go crazy'. What I do find rather crazy though is people who haven't used them, who have no intention of using them, who often aren't obese themselves, posting obsessively on threads about them. I can't imagine threads about wearing contact lenses, using painkillers or quitting smoking attract the same level of fervour from non smokers with 2020 vision.

BTW, in the community I come from, JUST having a batchelors is very much not a flex.

Now I don't necessarily subscribe to that mindset, but a lot of MNers come from similar mindsets / upbringings so... You're probably flexing you batchelors at a lot of people here who may well have masters and beyond. Especially given the age ranges on here spanning when FE was more affordable.

Just a heads up.

WLIs have challenged some of the foundations that fat phobes sat very comfortably on

I’m not going to engage with you any further @pamelanoon as it’s clear it’s entirely pointless, but I’d just like to say it may be useful for you to look at why you’re so unwilling to believe that this medication works for many people?

"A heads up"

Lol. Im not flexing my Bachelors (you spelled it wrong) at anyone.

I am replying to the posters who rudely and stupidly said that I couldn't possibly have a Bachelors degree AT ALL, as they don't call it that in the U.K.

I then had to gently explain to them that the world does not revolve around the U.K, and many people go to University outside of the U.K.

I have lost the will to live. I no longer care about WLI, this thread and the state of the world in general [sits in the corner and rocks back & forth]

Then don't be so fucking rude.

You said to me that I couldn't have a Bachelors degree as they don't call it that in the UK.

Which was an absolutely stupid thing to write.

When i pointed out to you reasonably that many people go to Uni outside of the UK, you have nothing to say for yourself.

Bachelor degree (or Batchelor) is a thing in UK I have a BA (Bachelor of art) amongst other qualifications btw!

So @Arraminta you are even more wrong then.

You said that you have never heard the phrase "Bachelor's degree' ever said in your 10 years of working in academia.

Strange that!