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AIBU?

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to be annoyed with both my friend and my husband

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JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 17:47

Been friends with a lady in my local community since she moved here about 4 years ago now to the neighbourhood , same ages DC , both of us working women, and a common group of girlfriends in the neighbourhood. Have done girls night's out in the past, and one trip last year with four ladies in total, with our family

Bunch of us planned a holiday with our family's in tow, for various reasons the three other ladies cancelled - and it ended up being us two away together with DHs and Kids.

So, when we planned it, it was self catering large caravans next to each other at this place that had stunning views and spectacular reviews. As DHs were going to be doing all the driving and some of the outdoorsy camp stuff with the kids, we agreed we would do the cooking. With the trip being only two nights away, we had agreed on bringing homemade food each of us for night 1 and to eat it all together, and to cook something simple for night 2.

Turns out I ended up bringing a huger amount of food for night 1 (the mains) but thought it sort of evened out as we ate inside, at theirs , as it was damp at night - there were two pots used to heat the food and we did leave the washing up of that to them - I left the leftovers with her and I think they warmed it up for breakfast the next morning , while I made some breakfast for us in our own caravan before we set out on activities for the day which again involved a lot of hill side driving which was done by the two DHs.

Turns out and I only found out on morning of day 2 that DH had offered to make them dinner on night 2 - now this annoyed me straight off the bat. It is an elaborate dish but one that DH loves , so it was partly for himself , but still I felt it upset the balanced planning I had in my mind. When he told me about it morning of day 2, I said fine , I hadnt unpacked my reaction yet so decided to go with it for then in order to let day 2 run smoothly and gracefully with the kids having fun as per the plan , and avoiding arguments seemed key. I wasnt happy about it though. It was a dish I hated to eat first off, I can't stand that particular type of fish cooked in that way and he knew that, but he also knew I would eat it if I had to. The original plan was for me and her to cook something simple together with the work divided among the two of us. In my mind, I had already done equal or more on night 1 with leaving a big box of leftovers for her for day 2 breakfast while I didnt take back any leftovers for us for morning after.

When i mentioned to her that DH planned to make dinner on night 2 and that rest of us could help out with prep etc, she answered extremely enthusiastically 'yes he said he was going to cook his fabulous xx for us tonight , wow etc' just seemed a bit odd to me as she knew I do not like that dish , but not her fault, DHs fault primarily . So let it slide

We had to leave the evening activities earlier to go get the ingredients for the elaborate dish, so I think the resentment against DH and her were building inside for me at that point. In retrospect, she could have offered that she and her DH do the shop as my DH was lead chef ? He does do his share of the cooking at home , but usually I have to nag for it to be 50pc though we both work ( a repeating theme on MN i Know) so to me , this reiterated the fact that he sometimes flirts or likes the ego boost of admiration of women, nothing new that I havent spotted already in the past 15 years with him but it has been harmless flirting in the past , never gets to affair stage, but is still low key annoying as I feel esp on holiday me and DC should have been his priority and it is annoying when he is seeking ego massaging as being seen as a great guy from my circle of lady friends instead of fucking off to do it with women at work (sorry for the langauge , but this is inconsiderate and lazy even when 'harmless')

anyway, he made the dinner, with both her and her DH helping as they can stand the smell and look of this type of fish dish, so ended up her H had no rest after a day of driving either thanks to DH changing the plan. She wasn't really doing that much with her DH helping mine , but I noticed on this trip more than I have in the past she likes to project manage and boss everyone around quite a lot , even when she's not doing a great deal herself, it had not been this noticeable in the past , if at all.

I kept the kids entertained in the open plan kitchen/dining and living area while the dinner was being made. Turns out they added too much of spice and flavour to the dish (it is not clear to me why or who's idea that was, as DH always adds just the right amount , never too much heat) and it ended up being inedible for my dc, and my husband cant eat spicy either, so he barely ate either. All of us ended up having mostly just the starters which was ready made and I popped in the oven for us, while their family enjoyed the spicy meal and also had two boxes of leftovers - presumably they were sorted for the long road trip back the next day as the plan to have lunch at an inn on the way back was turned down in a vague manner by them saying kids were fast asleep ( I figured they were eating the leftovers in the car while on the road, as wouldnt be starving the whole day ?)

We proceeded with the inn for lunch etc on our own.

So the above had me annoyed with both DH and friend, and not sure if AIBU?
I have long suspected DH is ND and on the spectrum which complicates it, as he doesnt see planning and organising as crucial the way I do.

The other thing is and perhaps this ties into him being ND, although maybe this is just overgrown teen boy behaviour unnacceptable for a grown man, but when we were at a pub lunch on day 2 - I went to get something from the car, and DH hid my mobile phone I think when I left it on the table at my seat, as a funny joke he says. When I came back in and couldnt see it there, I knew it was probably him and felt embarrased by the clownish act in front of friends, was searching for it just in case it fell off the table, while asking him whether he took my purse , and I noticed friend laughing (at me presumably as was in on the joke) when I was asking if anyone had seen my purse. What kind of 40 plus year old finds this a funny trick to play ? and what kind of 40 year old finds this laughable ?

Read him the riot act for this on the drive back home and he claims it was a funny joke and I was getting too serious. I actually felt a couple of times on the trip that the only other adult was her DH , and there was one incident when she told him off in the kitchen for dropping a utensil on the floor where I felt sorry for him. I actually felt a spark of ..like?....for him when he reacted so gracefully and classily in my mind to her embarrassing outburst. Absolutely not letting it upset him or reacting likewise.

AIBU to be kinda put off by both H and friend for the purse incident too ?
I think I can get liking someone , or feeling a spark, as long as harmless, and no intention to pursue it , we are all human. So okay, to offer to make a dish (him) or laugh (perhaps in embarrassment or not knowing what else to do) (her) for a silly joke.....but I think I am more put off by the fact, that she would not maybe make a quick pasta or something morning off the return to offer me some packed food for the road trip back, or something thoughtful and nice to even things nicely ?

And H needs to grow up re the purse hiding thing , disgusting, thats not even in the AIBU question, that has to be unfunny and disrespectful right ?

OP posts:
JaneAustenFann · 06/08/2025 10:48

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 10:25

I always feel like a misfit, too. Wherever I go.

I was diagnosed with autism in my 60s. That explained 90% of the problems I'd encountered in my life.

Wishing you all the best @JaneAustenFann Irrelevant, but I'm currently rereading all the Austens. I've just got to P & P.

I think Emma is my favourite :-) , very hard to pick though !

JA's characters were brave, unlike me ....

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 10:52

JaneAustenFann · 06/08/2025 10:48

I think Emma is my favourite :-) , very hard to pick though !

JA's characters were brave, unlike me ....

Emma's my favourite, too.
I read it first, then Sense & Sensibility.

I got the entire works on my Kindle for 99p. Bargain!

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 10:58

JA's characters were brave, unlike me

Please try not to feel like that. I do understand. I'm also struggling at the moment with something, and I decided this morning just to leave a group which is causing me more sadness than joy.

It's easier to remove or abandon negative things, in my experience.

(Charlotte Lucas was extremely brave, taking on the appalling Mr. Collins. Even just to inhabit Longbourn, in the fullness of time 🤣)

JaneAustenFann · 06/08/2025 10:58

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 10:52

Emma's my favourite, too.
I read it first, then Sense & Sensibility.

I got the entire works on my Kindle for 99p. Bargain!

Oooh yes Sense & Sensibility was my favourite in my late teens and still is in my top 3 ....what a book .....

Bollywood/Kollywood did a movie adaptation with Aishwarya Rai (from Bride and Prejudice etc) as the younger sister - the songs were composed by AR Rehman (music composer of Slumdog millionaire) and the melodies are hauntingly beautiful. I love all the British movie adaptations of course, and have watched the Colin Firth version of P&P , xx number of times way back when heart

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 10:59

Are those films on Netflix?

I mean the Bollywood ones?

Venalopolos · 06/08/2025 11:00

JaneAustenFann · 06/08/2025 10:46

The original plan was for night 2 that we get pizza for kids, and for those of us who wanted something homemade, we were going to do just dal and rice with pickle (that we bought in bottles) with boiled egg - which is 10 minutes compared to 2 hours of chicken biryani cooking. As I have seen in most instances with Asian familiies of my generation (40s age group) the men do the driving on the motorways on long haul road trips, which is we had planned to handle the meals, but if he had rested on the sunday night , would have been great if he could have pitched in with housework/meals when we got back post the 'holiday'. I would not have minded eating out all meals at all, but try getting the average asian immigrant to spend like white ppl do and you just hit a stone wall. Anyway. I'll stop now :-)

I get all of that, but I don’t think you can expect everyone to agree that you culturally shouldn’t be cooking when you get home because you’re on your period when you are adamant you should’ve been cooking a quick meal the day before (as if that is okay to do on your period then so is a quick meal the next day).

I don’t think you were saying this though, another poster was.

Don’t get me wrong I think your husband should have cooked the day you got home and it’s ridiculous to say he was too tired after driving and cooking in the previous days. He didn’t need to rest Sunday night to pitch in at home.

I was just saying your period is irrelevant to all of it.

JaneAustenFann · 06/08/2025 11:01

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 10:58

JA's characters were brave, unlike me

Please try not to feel like that. I do understand. I'm also struggling at the moment with something, and I decided this morning just to leave a group which is causing me more sadness than joy.

It's easier to remove or abandon negative things, in my experience.

(Charlotte Lucas was extremely brave, taking on the appalling Mr. Collins. Even just to inhabit Longbourn, in the fullness of time 🤣)

Thank you - your post bought tears to my eyes - thank you for understanding.

Yes Charlotte was brave in her own way, it was a different kind of bravery to Liz's, but bravery it was nonetheless.

Hope you get on top of what you are struggling with soon !! May Austen Power be with us :-)

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Radiatorsa · 06/08/2025 11:04

Your husband reads as a sleazy creepy inconsiderate arse.
Unacceptable cooking something you don't like to show off.

That woman is his match, a lazy arse who didn't share the load.

The hiding the phone confirms he's a complete moron.

The body shaming you in front of your children confirms he's nasty and abusive.

I would ghost her and I would be a very cranky, zero tolerating witch to your husband.

Stop doing anything for this twat and focus on do you really want to live with such a creep.

Do nothing for him.

Juststop2025 · 06/08/2025 11:07

Tippertapperfeet · 06/08/2025 10:11

Don’t go away with your friend again.

ask your DH not to cook food you don’t like.

Tell your husband to stop flirting with other women because it's disrespectful and pathetic - which is far more important.

Juststop2025 · 06/08/2025 11:08

Radiatorsa · 06/08/2025 11:04

Your husband reads as a sleazy creepy inconsiderate arse.
Unacceptable cooking something you don't like to show off.

That woman is his match, a lazy arse who didn't share the load.

The hiding the phone confirms he's a complete moron.

The body shaming you in front of your children confirms he's nasty and abusive.

I would ghost her and I would be a very cranky, zero tolerating witch to your husband.

Stop doing anything for this twat and focus on do you really want to live with such a creep.

Do nothing for him.

Love this so much. Absolutely.

JaneAustenFann · 06/08/2025 11:17

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 10:59

Are those films on Netflix?

I mean the Bollywood ones?

Edited

Bride and Prejudice with Aishwarya Rai is a British film actually not a Bollywood one, ,came out in 2004 - might be on you tube.

The name of the S&S movie adaptation with Aish Rai is 'KanduKonden Kandukonden' - all the songs are deffo on you tube , it is a tamil movie not Hindi (tamil is the langauge spoken in the southern most part of India - and some of SriLanka).

I love it for the songs, but I also love the Kate Winslet, Hugh Grant, Emma Thompson version of S&S !

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 11:29

Thank you. I'm going to search for those films.

I like Romola Garai and Jonny Lee Miller best as Emma and Mr. Knightley. He's also my favourite hero.

I'd marry him tomorrow if I wasn't already married

zingally · 06/08/2025 11:30

I'm trying to say this kindly... But if anyone is ND in this story... OP, I think it might be you.

This was a 2-night caravan holiday, not a coronation banquet for the king.

Respectfully, calm down.

zingally · 06/08/2025 11:37

MorrisZapp · 05/08/2025 19:23

There's an overspiced fishy glop currently flung on the verge beside a French Maccy D's.

Of all the funny comments on this, this comment made me laugh the most!

"overspiced fishy glop".

Honestly, can you imagine this friend, DH and kids eating leftover spicy glop in a CAR, whilst driving home?! Bonkers.

Y2ker · 06/08/2025 11:42

I am truly in awe of people so dedicated to leftovers that they are willing to travel with and eat stinky fish while driving on a summer day. Amazing.

JaneAustenFann · 06/08/2025 11:43

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 11:29

Thank you. I'm going to search for those films.

I like Romola Garai and Jonny Lee Miller best as Emma and Mr. Knightley. He's also my favourite hero.

I'd marry him tomorrow if I wasn't already married

Need to search for the Romola Garai as Emma one now ! Thanks !

I was quite the matchmaker in my teens, unfortunately did not match make the right person for myself.....

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BatchCookBabe · 06/08/2025 11:47

WOW! That was a long winded way of telling us all something you could have told us in about 150 words!

I need a nap after reading that.

Oh and YABU, and need to get out more I think.

Dweetfidilove · 06/08/2025 12:04

I'm sorry you've had such a kicking, OP.
It's common on MN that posters in awful relationships come to the board fixated on what seems an insignificant issue, when really, they are struggling to deal with the whole shitty relationship.

You feeling uncared for and always disrespected is the real issue and ties into why your husband would cook a meal you cannot eat, without an alternative.

I don't know what your stance on divorce is, but this shit has been festering for some time and is unlikely to change. The more someone is allowed to disrespect you, the less worthy of their respect you become and the less likely they are to care about you. At least start disengaging from him.

A friend told me she wouldn't/couldn't divorce her cheating shitbag, but she developed an entire life and support system that didn't require him at all. He paid the mortgage and undertook all the other responsibilities, they attended necessary events together; but the rest of her life didn't involve him at all. She eventually divorced him but was so independent of him by then that it hurt far less than she'd anticipated. It was more the loss of her lifestyle than the man that impacted her.

Please make a decision to protect yourself and your mental health in this relationship. Drop all the unnecessary things you can and focus on creating a safe space for yourself where you can have some semblance of peace.

JaneAustenFann · 06/08/2025 12:13

Dweetfidilove · 06/08/2025 12:04

I'm sorry you've had such a kicking, OP.
It's common on MN that posters in awful relationships come to the board fixated on what seems an insignificant issue, when really, they are struggling to deal with the whole shitty relationship.

You feeling uncared for and always disrespected is the real issue and ties into why your husband would cook a meal you cannot eat, without an alternative.

I don't know what your stance on divorce is, but this shit has been festering for some time and is unlikely to change. The more someone is allowed to disrespect you, the less worthy of their respect you become and the less likely they are to care about you. At least start disengaging from him.

A friend told me she wouldn't/couldn't divorce her cheating shitbag, but she developed an entire life and support system that didn't require him at all. He paid the mortgage and undertook all the other responsibilities, they attended necessary events together; but the rest of her life didn't involve him at all. She eventually divorced him but was so independent of him by then that it hurt far less than she'd anticipated. It was more the loss of her lifestyle than the man that impacted her.

Please make a decision to protect yourself and your mental health in this relationship. Drop all the unnecessary things you can and focus on creating a safe space for yourself where you can have some semblance of peace.

Thank you, this is so wise .....I need to have this put up somewhere where I repeat reading it every single day.....

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Starling7 · 06/08/2025 12:18

You sound like you hate your husband but I think the main issue is that you are trying to control other people's actions rather than focussing your own. If things are annoying you try to detach yourself and take some time out.
People will become much less annoying when you let people get on with stuff and you take care of yourself - eg, you don't like the fish dish? Then pick something up for yourself to have instead and let others get in with whatever.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/08/2025 13:04

Y2ker · 06/08/2025 11:42

I am truly in awe of people so dedicated to leftovers that they are willing to travel with and eat stinky fish while driving on a summer day. Amazing.

If you'd RTFT you'd see that the dish was actually chicken biryani.

The OP changed some details originally.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 06/08/2025 14:27

SriouslyWhutNow · 05/08/2025 18:16

I've finally found a use for ChatGPT, it's summed it up in 3 bullets as follows:
Imbalanced effort and changing plans: She felt the division of labour on the trip was uneven—she brought most of the food for night 1, and then her husband unexpectedly offered to cook an elaborate dish (which she dislikes) for night 2, changing the agreed plan where both women were to cook something simple together. This left her feeling overlooked and annoyed.
Frustration with dynamics and perceived attention-seeking: She was irritated by her husband’s tendency to seek admiration from her friend, and noticed her friend seemed to encourage it. She also became increasingly frustrated by the friend’s bossy, project-manager style without doing much herself, and was disappointed by the lack of small thoughtful gestures, like offering food for the return journey.
Purse/phone “joke” incident and emotional response: When her husband hid her phone as a “joke” in front of the group, she felt embarrassed and disrespected—especially when the friend laughed along. This immaturity contrasted sharply with the calm and considerate behaviour of the friend’s husband, which she unexpectedly found herself admiring.
I still can't tell if YABU or not, but ChatGPT seems to think YANBU. 🤷

Edited

ChatGPT is a bit of a "gentle parent". It rarely outwardly disagrees ime (especially with this kind of thing).

But I do agree that OP isn't necessarily unreasonable. Some of these things are annyoing. That's when you either have to open your mouth ASAP or just shrug it off. Otherwise you'll end up being resentful, bottling those feelings up etc.

sparkleghost · 06/08/2025 16:55

JaneAustenFann · 06/08/2025 10:25

Thanks , my fault for not being clear - re cooking while bleeding sounded overly dramatic - its just that I am peri menopausal and recently diagnosed with uterine fibroids, might need surgery at some point if they keep growing , and have been having these monster periods. He has been insensitive, I could have really used two boxes of food that he cooked, if he had made a meal the three of us could eat, I am really struggling this week even after coming back , I am still on my period and it is day 10 today since it started, giving it till tomorrow before calling back the GP and doing all the cooking and housework alongside office work, and entertaining my one DC on summer holiday - while he sulks for being called out on being an inconsiderate arse who never stops getting his head turned and forgetting his priorities. Any woman will do it for him at this point.

I completely understand this and (cultural possibilities aside) wondered if you might have an underlying health condition. People that have average run-of-the-mill periods don’t realise how debilitating they can be with fibroids, adenomyosis or endometriosis. I don’t have fibroids, but I do have endometriosis & adenomyosis, and always flood in the first few days of my period. I can’t even go out sometimes for fear of leaking. Even period pants with a heavy flow sanitary towel isn’t enough!! That’s aside from the severe pain that accompanies it. You must be knackered after 10 days of it bless you. Good idea to call GP, you could be at risk of anaemia if this has been happening for a while.

Charlize43 · 06/08/2025 17:05

I still think that Prosecco could be your friend.

It's got me through some horrendous holidays.

Juststop2025 · 06/08/2025 23:37

Juststop2025 · 05/08/2025 23:07

It's not that hard to understand your points, but then I'm quite bright, unlike many of your respondents. There is no such thing as harmless flirting, of course and this is at the core of your issue. Your husband is a disrespectful arse who lets other women know he finds them fuckable.

That is what flirting is - just to be clear - it is signalling to other people you find them fuckable, whether you actually believe that or not, that is the only intent behind flirting.

So your husband has been letting your friend know subtly (or not so subtly) that he finds her fuckable. He then went out of his way to cook a difficult meal to impress her while ignoring your plans, and on top of that you were concerned he would leave the lion's share of the planning of his "impress your 'friend" meal" to you.

Then, he played a shitty little prank on you which she was in on and they both laughed at you.

Of course it's dispresctful and of course you're upset. Ignore the mumsnet misogynists, they love to take aim at women for - well - anything.

It's truly bizarre to me that anybody thinks they need Chat GPT to simply quickly scan the post and find the important points. Perhaps I'm a genius. Hint - I don't think I am a genius.