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AIBU?

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to be annoyed with both my friend and my husband

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JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 17:47

Been friends with a lady in my local community since she moved here about 4 years ago now to the neighbourhood , same ages DC , both of us working women, and a common group of girlfriends in the neighbourhood. Have done girls night's out in the past, and one trip last year with four ladies in total, with our family

Bunch of us planned a holiday with our family's in tow, for various reasons the three other ladies cancelled - and it ended up being us two away together with DHs and Kids.

So, when we planned it, it was self catering large caravans next to each other at this place that had stunning views and spectacular reviews. As DHs were going to be doing all the driving and some of the outdoorsy camp stuff with the kids, we agreed we would do the cooking. With the trip being only two nights away, we had agreed on bringing homemade food each of us for night 1 and to eat it all together, and to cook something simple for night 2.

Turns out I ended up bringing a huger amount of food for night 1 (the mains) but thought it sort of evened out as we ate inside, at theirs , as it was damp at night - there were two pots used to heat the food and we did leave the washing up of that to them - I left the leftovers with her and I think they warmed it up for breakfast the next morning , while I made some breakfast for us in our own caravan before we set out on activities for the day which again involved a lot of hill side driving which was done by the two DHs.

Turns out and I only found out on morning of day 2 that DH had offered to make them dinner on night 2 - now this annoyed me straight off the bat. It is an elaborate dish but one that DH loves , so it was partly for himself , but still I felt it upset the balanced planning I had in my mind. When he told me about it morning of day 2, I said fine , I hadnt unpacked my reaction yet so decided to go with it for then in order to let day 2 run smoothly and gracefully with the kids having fun as per the plan , and avoiding arguments seemed key. I wasnt happy about it though. It was a dish I hated to eat first off, I can't stand that particular type of fish cooked in that way and he knew that, but he also knew I would eat it if I had to. The original plan was for me and her to cook something simple together with the work divided among the two of us. In my mind, I had already done equal or more on night 1 with leaving a big box of leftovers for her for day 2 breakfast while I didnt take back any leftovers for us for morning after.

When i mentioned to her that DH planned to make dinner on night 2 and that rest of us could help out with prep etc, she answered extremely enthusiastically 'yes he said he was going to cook his fabulous xx for us tonight , wow etc' just seemed a bit odd to me as she knew I do not like that dish , but not her fault, DHs fault primarily . So let it slide

We had to leave the evening activities earlier to go get the ingredients for the elaborate dish, so I think the resentment against DH and her were building inside for me at that point. In retrospect, she could have offered that she and her DH do the shop as my DH was lead chef ? He does do his share of the cooking at home , but usually I have to nag for it to be 50pc though we both work ( a repeating theme on MN i Know) so to me , this reiterated the fact that he sometimes flirts or likes the ego boost of admiration of women, nothing new that I havent spotted already in the past 15 years with him but it has been harmless flirting in the past , never gets to affair stage, but is still low key annoying as I feel esp on holiday me and DC should have been his priority and it is annoying when he is seeking ego massaging as being seen as a great guy from my circle of lady friends instead of fucking off to do it with women at work (sorry for the langauge , but this is inconsiderate and lazy even when 'harmless')

anyway, he made the dinner, with both her and her DH helping as they can stand the smell and look of this type of fish dish, so ended up her H had no rest after a day of driving either thanks to DH changing the plan. She wasn't really doing that much with her DH helping mine , but I noticed on this trip more than I have in the past she likes to project manage and boss everyone around quite a lot , even when she's not doing a great deal herself, it had not been this noticeable in the past , if at all.

I kept the kids entertained in the open plan kitchen/dining and living area while the dinner was being made. Turns out they added too much of spice and flavour to the dish (it is not clear to me why or who's idea that was, as DH always adds just the right amount , never too much heat) and it ended up being inedible for my dc, and my husband cant eat spicy either, so he barely ate either. All of us ended up having mostly just the starters which was ready made and I popped in the oven for us, while their family enjoyed the spicy meal and also had two boxes of leftovers - presumably they were sorted for the long road trip back the next day as the plan to have lunch at an inn on the way back was turned down in a vague manner by them saying kids were fast asleep ( I figured they were eating the leftovers in the car while on the road, as wouldnt be starving the whole day ?)

We proceeded with the inn for lunch etc on our own.

So the above had me annoyed with both DH and friend, and not sure if AIBU?
I have long suspected DH is ND and on the spectrum which complicates it, as he doesnt see planning and organising as crucial the way I do.

The other thing is and perhaps this ties into him being ND, although maybe this is just overgrown teen boy behaviour unnacceptable for a grown man, but when we were at a pub lunch on day 2 - I went to get something from the car, and DH hid my mobile phone I think when I left it on the table at my seat, as a funny joke he says. When I came back in and couldnt see it there, I knew it was probably him and felt embarrased by the clownish act in front of friends, was searching for it just in case it fell off the table, while asking him whether he took my purse , and I noticed friend laughing (at me presumably as was in on the joke) when I was asking if anyone had seen my purse. What kind of 40 plus year old finds this a funny trick to play ? and what kind of 40 year old finds this laughable ?

Read him the riot act for this on the drive back home and he claims it was a funny joke and I was getting too serious. I actually felt a couple of times on the trip that the only other adult was her DH , and there was one incident when she told him off in the kitchen for dropping a utensil on the floor where I felt sorry for him. I actually felt a spark of ..like?....for him when he reacted so gracefully and classily in my mind to her embarrassing outburst. Absolutely not letting it upset him or reacting likewise.

AIBU to be kinda put off by both H and friend for the purse incident too ?
I think I can get liking someone , or feeling a spark, as long as harmless, and no intention to pursue it , we are all human. So okay, to offer to make a dish (him) or laugh (perhaps in embarrassment or not knowing what else to do) (her) for a silly joke.....but I think I am more put off by the fact, that she would not maybe make a quick pasta or something morning off the return to offer me some packed food for the road trip back, or something thoughtful and nice to even things nicely ?

And H needs to grow up re the purse hiding thing , disgusting, thats not even in the AIBU question, that has to be unfunny and disrespectful right ?

OP posts:
Spinmerightroundbaby · 07/08/2025 18:11

Gmala · 05/08/2025 18:11

Mate you've just written war and peace about your husband cooking dinner. Catch a grip, respectfully.

This. Sorry, I couldn’t grasp what the issue was tbh. Can you just summarise please?

Thefsm · 07/08/2025 19:05

You sound nd yourself to have been so worked up over a change of plans.

the flirting thing is dickish but the other stuff isn’t he just wanted to show off his fancy dish to new people who would appreciate it.

yoy will have more fun if you learn to relax more and go with the flow.

independentfriend · 07/08/2025 19:48

I think your husband was unreasonable to cook a meal that you actively don't like while you were on holiday. Whoever added too much spice to it ought to have been sent to find replacement food everybody could eat or cream or something to reduce the intensity.

If you hadn't had a conversation with your husband re equal division of labour I don't think it's wrong he offered to cook. Most people would take a more relaxed/ broader approach to dividing the work.

MrsMrsL · 07/08/2025 20:12

Ok, so with the phone thing, yanbu. Twatish thing to do.

The cooking... hmm, you say you suspect husband is ND cos of the lack of planning, but do you perhaps think your over planning is also an issue? I have to plan everything down to the minute or I'm an absolute wreck, like you appear to be. People like us need to chill every now and then and be more flexible. Tbf, he fucked up the cooking part of his cooking, and I can see why that would rankle. Buuut, if you knew you didn't like the dish (even when he doesn't fuck it up) why not nip to the site shop and grab a pack of burgers and some buns? Easy peasy.

On the whole yabu about the cooking.

Your friend also sounds like a nightmare, BTW.

Maninpeace · 07/08/2025 21:14

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SparklyLeader · 07/08/2025 21:45

YANBU. The Chat GPT explained the dynamics. Targeted behaviors are not innocent.

You are, however, responsible for your communication or, rather, the lack thereof. People cannot read your mind no matter how loudly you think. You are upset with this woman but never said anything.

Next situation, ask for your leftovers back, and take what you need because that's fair and amicable. When you don't speak, she doesn't know. How is it her fault she couldn't read your mind?

Even if you suspect she was being greedy, and did know, it is even more important that you request it returned for your family. You have to stand up for yourself and your family. That is your responsibility, not hers. To an extent it is also your husband's but you seem to have a division of labor with regard to food, other than his special dish.

Calmly explain to your husband that no means no. Never is another form of "no." He is never, as in that's a "no-no," to hide your phone again. if he wants you angry with him, you are more than happy to oblige, and all he has to do is tell you he wants you to scream at him, win/win.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 07/08/2025 21:56

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Respectfully?
That post is the opposite of respectful.

Maninpeace · 07/08/2025 22:19

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ImogenBrocklehurst · 07/08/2025 22:21

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 18:46

Hmmm, and here I was worried I would get LTB responses when that would be too extreme ........

It was okay for him to hide my mobile/purse (tried to change some details so not outing and failed to successfully) ?

In any case, he was too tired to cook today (why am i surprised) and I had to cook while still bleeding after a week of starting my period , and back at work logged in for the day, while he was off work and too tired to cook

What?

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 07/08/2025 22:26

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MNHQ obviously disagreed with you, as they've deleted the comment.

Brunettesmorefun · 07/08/2025 22:30

Gmala · 05/08/2025 18:11

Mate you've just written war and peace about your husband cooking dinner. Catch a grip, respectfully.

😂😂

Brunettesmorefun · 07/08/2025 22:32

Spinmerightroundbaby · 07/08/2025 18:11

This. Sorry, I couldn’t grasp what the issue was tbh. Can you just summarise please?

I was lost too and nit sure what it was all about. A summary would be helpful

Bleachedlevis · 08/08/2025 05:11

If OPs post had been much shorter she would have got more sympathy imo. It’s the droning on and the detail that readers find irritating,I think. Her DH sounds a PITA for changing eating plans, going food shopping with her friend, enjoying flirting and being centre of attention, preparing food that neither his wife or kids could enjoy, and playing the ridiculous prank with her mobile while her friend smirked. He’s an arse and her friend fancies him.

Hopingtobeaparent · 08/08/2025 19:35

SriouslyWhutNow · 05/08/2025 18:16

I've finally found a use for ChatGPT, it's summed it up in 3 bullets as follows:
Imbalanced effort and changing plans: She felt the division of labour on the trip was uneven—she brought most of the food for night 1, and then her husband unexpectedly offered to cook an elaborate dish (which she dislikes) for night 2, changing the agreed plan where both women were to cook something simple together. This left her feeling overlooked and annoyed.
Frustration with dynamics and perceived attention-seeking: She was irritated by her husband’s tendency to seek admiration from her friend, and noticed her friend seemed to encourage it. She also became increasingly frustrated by the friend’s bossy, project-manager style without doing much herself, and was disappointed by the lack of small thoughtful gestures, like offering food for the return journey.
Purse/phone “joke” incident and emotional response: When her husband hid her phone as a “joke” in front of the group, she felt embarrassed and disrespected—especially when the friend laughed along. This immaturity contrasted sharply with the calm and considerate behaviour of the friend’s husband, which she unexpectedly found herself admiring.
I still can't tell if YABU or not, but ChatGPT seems to think YANBU. 🤷

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😂

Hopingtobeaparent · 08/08/2025 19:39

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 21:02

He rarely cooks unless nagged at home, cooked for my friend when it wasnt our turn

Both of them laughed at me over a juvenile prank

that is the abridged version. MNHQ, pls can you replace the original post with this version instead, thanks

Thank you! 😂

gamerchick · 08/08/2025 19:49

I feel a bit sorry for the cleaners getting that van ready for the next guests after cooking fish in it. No way that was going to air out for days.

Scorchio84 · 08/08/2025 19:51

Gmala · 05/08/2025 18:11

Mate you've just written war and peace about your husband cooking dinner. Catch a grip, respectfully.

😂😄

Namechangetry · 08/08/2025 21:57

gamerchick · 08/08/2025 19:49

I feel a bit sorry for the cleaners getting that van ready for the next guests after cooking fish in it. No way that was going to air out for days.

It wasn't fish, he made chicken biryani even though she's a vegetarian. She was trying to change stuff to not be outing and ended up just confusing everyone.

Nikki75 · 08/08/2025 22:37

I didnt read until the end ...
Speak to your husband about his flirting with your friends that's number one as for the meal it's no biggy ... just pour yourself a glass of wine and let him crack on.

Nikki75 · 08/08/2025 22:40

Brunettesmorefun · 07/08/2025 22:30

😂😂

😩🤣

Diblin93 · 09/08/2025 03:20

Too long

Onlyashappyas · 10/08/2025 00:35

I’ve sorted your camping menu…Chilli & nachos night 1, beans on toast/BBQ night 2. Cereal for breakfast. Repeat. Have more fun, life really doesn’t need to be that complicated.

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