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To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

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Nohqters · 04/08/2025 21:56

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

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GiantTeddyIsTired · 05/08/2025 09:05

Just to check, have you lived anywhere else, do you have any experience of how foreigners are treated in other places?

Do you understand that cultures are different, and that some really don't work that well with British culture, and can be actively harmful to people?

ArthurBloom · 05/08/2025 09:07

Nevertrustacop · 04/08/2025 22:22

This is really unhelpful.
In one tiny paragraphs you have managed to call people who disagree with you uneducated, lacking uncritical thinking and gullible to dog whistles.
It's almost as if you think the way to change people's minds is to piss them off.

Thank you, the funny thing is they can never argue their point, they throw insults out about how you're stupid if you care about illegal immigration or "It isn't a problem"
We had a migrant hotel set up near our home and it is absolutely destroying the community, so when people tell me I'm an idiot and it's a non-existing problem, you're damn right I'm going to look at a group who's willing to help me.

EasternStandard · 05/08/2025 09:07

Theseventhmagpie · 05/08/2025 09:02

Here we go again. Anyone who disagrees with you is a thick, racist bigot.

That post just had a list of pre GE Labour phrases. They’re out of date.

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:09

Iocainepowder · 05/08/2025 09:04

It’s quite difficult around my local area atm.

There is a migrant hotel here and a few months ago, a of the men were arrested for harrassing and stalking girls from our local primary school. We had police walking our streets for a few weeks afterwards to increase safety.

We also have a very diverse community here already, but it has caused a feeling of ‘unease’ I think, where people are now a bit more weary of who is walking around and if they are from the hotel.

I think people would genuinely feel safer if the hotel occupants were moved, due to these incidents.

A female employee of a well known jewellery retailer, was telling me she now refuses to work past 5 pm. The shop is surrounded by Eastern Europeans staring at her while she's in the shop alone. She will be told she's racist, because she's protecting herself. This is the same town, in which a little girl was stabbed to death by one of aforementioned group of inhabitants.

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 05/08/2025 09:09

Completely agree OP.
It’s totally racist - whatever the reform supporters might tell
themselves.
Sad and infuriating. Like we are going backwards.

Jackiepumpkinhead · 05/08/2025 09:09

Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:26

And how many White British men murdered people last year? Loads probably, why do you only hone in on someone origin when discussing crime. The natives here commit crime on a much larger scale

This is the weirdest argument, it blows my mind when people come out with this.

Gardeningisrubbish · 05/08/2025 09:10

MiloMinderbinder925 · 05/08/2025 09:01

If you work with asylum seekers and refugees you know that 70% get refugee status.

I just worked in the initial stages of arrival. I had no idea if the outcomes. And my point still stands, if these people have no interest in integrating, is it good that they are allowed to stay? Are all Syrian asylum seekers going home now? It would be fine to host people temporarily but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 09:10

Very few countries record this. Sweden is also experiencing massive problems with immigrant rapists, but again does not keep proper records.

A study by Lund university revealed 63% if convicted rapists in Sweden we’re born overseas and highest risk when they came to Sweden after the age of 15.

https://portal.research.lu.se/en/activities/63-percent-of-those-convicted-of-rape-in-sweden-have-an-immigrant

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:12

Jackiepumpkinhead · 05/08/2025 09:09

This is the weirdest argument, it blows my mind when people come out with this.

The left, who accuse you of whataboutery, are experts in non sequiturs.

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 05/08/2025 09:12

GiantTeddyIsTired · 05/08/2025 09:05

Just to check, have you lived anywhere else, do you have any experience of how foreigners are treated in other places?

Do you understand that cultures are different, and that some really don't work that well with British culture, and can be actively harmful to people?

“Some cultures “ 🙄🙄🙄

Strawberrri · 05/08/2025 09:13

We are probably as racist as most countries but the powers that be (rich mostly overprivileged middle aged white males) have decided that the little people of this country could learn from some good old immigrant mix. Unfortunately most brits didn't really want this and were happy with just Brits the good the bad and the ugly. However we have been swamped by foreigners and because the high and mighty call us racist if we complain we didn't complain. Now we have some horrible crimes being committed, often due their differing culture and beliefs, so now we are able to complain loudly with less chance of being deemed racist and that is what is happening we are now complaining - but as I said you can't just say you don't want them you've got to come up with an excuse so hence foreigners are being blamed for everything - the option is just to say we don't want them and send them back and be called racist.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 05/08/2025 09:13

Gardeningisrubbish · 05/08/2025 09:10

I just worked in the initial stages of arrival. I had no idea if the outcomes. And my point still stands, if these people have no interest in integrating, is it good that they are allowed to stay? Are all Syrian asylum seekers going home now? It would be fine to host people temporarily but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

Your point doesn't stand as they're not mainly economic migrants. How do you know they don't want to integrate?

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:14

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 05/08/2025 09:12

“Some cultures “ 🙄🙄🙄

What's wrong with that?

jensondolally · 05/08/2025 09:15

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:04

Oh, she's now a benefit basher. Just waiting to hear she doesn't need her state pension and the picture is complete.

Nope. Or her winter fuel allowance. How did you guess?

User32459 · 05/08/2025 09:15

The public have been ignored too long. Repeatedly vote for less immigration (because the numbers are not sustainable) only to get more. Complete cowardice at dealing with the ludicrous situation with the boats and hotels. Even people who have come here as legal migrants are fed up with the situation.

I blame the politicians. People are more radical and angry because of their inability to do what they were voted to do. It's ripping up the social contract. Plus in a good economy people will buy into it more, but when mass immigration is starting to hurt the economy, people have no money, can't afford a house, can't get a doctor. It's not sustainable.

Britain is an incredibly tolerant country, but there's a tipping point and it's being reached.

VaseofViolets · 05/08/2025 09:16

Toseland · 05/08/2025 09:03

Society is breaking down. Britishness is apparently something be ashamed of. You can't fly your country's flag without being called a racist bigot. The top boys name is Mohammed in a Christian country! Gangs of immigrants harrass women in the street and rape our children. It's not safe to go out. There is two tier justice and policing. Those people who have lived, paid taxes, had their grandparents and great grandparents die fighting for this country feel betrayed. But nobody listens.

It’s interesting that those who seem to pride themselves on their compassion for people of every other nationality seem to have none for their fellow Brits who feel this way. There’s no interest in acknowledging why they feel this way, or wish to understand - it’s so much easier to write them all off as bigots and racists.

And I say this as a foreigner 🤷‍♀️

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/08/2025 09:18

Gardeningisrubbish · 05/08/2025 09:10

I just worked in the initial stages of arrival. I had no idea if the outcomes. And my point still stands, if these people have no interest in integrating, is it good that they are allowed to stay? Are all Syrian asylum seekers going home now? It would be fine to host people temporarily but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

They aren’t being allowed to integrate even if they wanted to because they get met with hostility at every turn. Even black and brown people who were born here are getting the same treatment, being called rats and aliens and all sorts of dehumanising language, and you want them to integrate? That’s just an excuse to carry on hating - ‘They’re not integrating’ - my arse 😂.

If I was an asylum seeker and I had thousands of flag shagging thugs outside a hotel baying for blood, I wouldn’t want to bloody integrate either. Also, have you never considered that it’s the fear that makes some of them lash out at white British people what with the amount of abuse they get?

Theres a guy on TikTok who goes to the hotels and harasses them!

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:18

jensondolally · 05/08/2025 09:15

Nope. Or her winter fuel allowance. How did you guess?

😆 🤣 straight from the script.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 09:19

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/08/2025 09:18

They aren’t being allowed to integrate even if they wanted to because they get met with hostility at every turn. Even black and brown people who were born here are getting the same treatment, being called rats and aliens and all sorts of dehumanising language, and you want them to integrate? That’s just an excuse to carry on hating - ‘They’re not integrating’ - my arse 😂.

If I was an asylum seeker and I had thousands of flag shagging thugs outside a hotel baying for blood, I wouldn’t want to bloody integrate either. Also, have you never considered that it’s the fear that makes some of them lash out at white British people what with the amount of abuse they get?

Theres a guy on TikTok who goes to the hotels and harasses them!

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So you’d go ahead and kidnap, rape and torture a 12 year old would you?

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/08/2025 09:20

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JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 09:21

And you’ll find the ‘flag shagging’ was a response to the rape and sex abuse. It didn’t come before. This has been going on for over a decade now. Do you remember Cologne, where hundreds of young women were sexually attacked in a single evening by asylum seekers in 2016? 10 years ago, before ‘stop the boats’ was a thing anywhere? Are you going to have a go at explaining that away?

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35250903.amp

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:21

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/08/2025 09:18

They aren’t being allowed to integrate even if they wanted to because they get met with hostility at every turn. Even black and brown people who were born here are getting the same treatment, being called rats and aliens and all sorts of dehumanising language, and you want them to integrate? That’s just an excuse to carry on hating - ‘They’re not integrating’ - my arse 😂.

If I was an asylum seeker and I had thousands of flag shagging thugs outside a hotel baying for blood, I wouldn’t want to bloody integrate either. Also, have you never considered that it’s the fear that makes some of them lash out at white British people what with the amount of abuse they get?

Theres a guy on TikTok who goes to the hotels and harasses them!

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Integration is an integral part of settling here successfully. Why wouldn't they choose to do that? Which came first - the refusing to integrate and calling for Sharia law or hostile treatment, from locals?

jensondolally · 05/08/2025 09:21

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:18

😆 🤣 straight from the script.

Yep, these people walk amongst us. Or is it just racists who allowed to use stereotypes?

anniegun · 05/08/2025 09:21

It is the right wing facists exploiting the gulability of certain sections of our population. They are making a fortune spreading misinformation and hate.

NiftyBlueRobin · 05/08/2025 09:22

So for a lot of you, your argument essentially boils down to 'well British men commit crimes against women, so may as well let men from every other country do so too! It's only fair'. For those of us who do not view women as second class citizens, this simply isn't a compelling argument.

There is nowhere to deport British men to, for those of you who keep obtusely advising we do this. We can, however, impose controls on immigration.

Also, for those who keep trying to imply that British men are an equal or even more so danger to British women, are you genuinely trying to argue that cultural attitudes have no impact on violence against women? If so, you must be arguing that as a British woman your rights and quality of life are no different to those of women in countries like Afghanistan?

It is ludicrous for people to argue that allowing tens of thousands of young men into the country, many of whom come from countries that have very different cultural attitudes towards women, gay people, etc, will have no impact on crime levels in the UK. Especially when many of those men have been filmed outright saying that one of the reasons they want to come to the UK is because they've been told western women are easy.

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