Do you believe there will be a civil war?

[exhaustedandwholly]

I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately and I wonder if others feel the same. With everything going on, from the arrival of illegal migrants in small boats to a government that seems powerless, and with Farage gaining popularity because people are fed up, it feels like tension is rising across the country.

People are frustrated. You try to raise concerns and are instantly labelled a racist or bigot, even when your worries are about integration, safety, and national identity, not race. It feels like any honest conversation is being shut down.

There are parts of the UK where people who were born and raised here no longer feel at home. In some areas, if you are not part of the dominant local community, you can feel completely out of place or even unsafe walking alone at night. That is not right in your own country.

It is not just about people coming from Muslim-majority countries or those arriving illegally. There are also large numbers of Eastern Europeans, including Bulgarians, Romanians, and Russians. Many work hard and contribute, but there are also communities forming where people keep to themselves, speak no English, and make no effort to integrate. Some of these areas are experiencing rising antisocial behaviour, crime, and a breakdown of community life.

You can find videos online showing the state of some of these areas, with rubbish piling up, people ignoring the rules, and no sign of enforcement. It looks lawless, and it often is. But speaking about it honestly is considered of limits.

I live next to a Muslim family and they are wonderful people. Friendly, respectful, hardworking. So this is not about judging individuals. This is about a wider pattern where people are arriving, not integrating, and changing the fabric of our country in ways no one voted for.

We are a Christian country with our own traditions, values, and way of life. Why is it seen as wrong to want to preserve that? If we moved to Saudi Arabia, Bulgaria, or Russia, we would be expected to adapt to their culture. So why is it unacceptable to ask the same here?

The anger and division in this country are growing. I do not want unrest or conflict, but I cannot ignore what feels like a serious shift. When ordinary people feel ignored for too long, things eventually boil over.

Is anyone else feeling this? Or are we just not allowed to talk about it anymore?

How do you separate yourself from those people that also stand for your cause?

This is a thread about general civil war after all. So I’m curious what you’d say to those police van smashers.

When have I said I hated anybody and when have you asked me why I hate someone? Could you quote it please.

I think you’re overreacting just a tad to me saying your area isn’t for me. You must admit it sounds like a place you live when you have no other options. I’m sure it’s lovely, just really not for me.

Lol! Do you honestly think the far right brigade could organise themselves enough for any type of war? Do you remember when they waddled up to London to protect the statues from the blm protestors? They got completely pissed, attacked the police, and one even urinated on a memorial.

I don’t think there’ll be a civil war, because the British on the whole are rule followers, and whilst there will be pockets of protests, I don’t think things will escalate to a civil war. Instead, people will bide their time until the next General Election and will mark their ballot papers accordingly. People though are telling the government what they want. If Starmer chooses to ignore it, then he’ll get what’s coming to him and his party in four years time.

@healthadvice123

"So entering by boat is legal ? There are correct ways to seek asylum, how is that fair on those following the correct process."

The 'correct way' for people who've entered the country by illegal means to legally claim asylum is to present themselves to immigration control as soon as they set foot on British soil.

If those people are found not to have a valid claim to asylum they can be deported for entering the UK illegally.

If they're deemed to have a valid claim to asylum they will allowed to stay, despite having entered illegally.

Hope this helps.

I don’t think you’re up to date with current events.

No I didn't. I explained that it is the Palestine group that the government has proscribed as a terrorist group, which antifa will join in with.

Antifa join in all the fights. I check out their Facebook pages from bad experience.

Women's groups had to start doing that to arrange security measures for their meetings as they would invariably find out where we were going and show up in the black masks.

We even had a name for them, the black pampas because they were young and silly and didn't really know why they were there attacking old ladies other than we aren't entitled to our opinion on a government consultation.

The police banned masks from protests after that Epping fight because of identification.

Can you find a recent video with masks?

Not at all.
Where I live the daily mail tried to make a story about a race riot saying it was the locals. But it wasn't it was a load of people from miles away causing trouble.
I think you do just sound racist frankly.

Enlighten me

I live in Europe. Rural. Big British immigrant population. You should see how well they've integrated. 5% speak the local language. If that. They've got their own shops, left-hand drive cars, own news paper. They have "expat" FB groups where they seem to spend most of their time asking for English-speaking dentists, doctors, solicitors, vets. And the other day, I heard one moaning about the Polish in UK.
Idiots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/04/how-are-police-likely-to-respond-to-the-rally-against-palestine-action-ban

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/03/palestine-action-supporters-plot-to-overwhelm-police/

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/palestine-action-overwhelm-police/

In all honesty, I wonder this.

I used to be very left wing. And I'm definitely not right wing now. However, I do think that the sheer volume of people who have arrived in the past 5 years since Boris messed up the immigration/visa system has disrupted thin

I think its a fine balance between allowing some movement of people but retaining a settled population, I.e. a community. I live in an area where there has been a rapid change in 5 years. Quite simply, it used to be a mixed class, predominantly white British suburb, with a healthily diverse population of say 25% from ethnic minorities. Its not more like 70% from ethnic minorities, and its rare to hear English spoken. There are areas where everyone is Easter European - maybe Russian/Albanian/kurdish(?) and rather than the law abiding Polish, they seem to be a lot more rowdy and flashy, driving round in expensive c

It is very diverse at present, which i see as a good thing. Its a mix of all different nationalities and races. However, my young adult daughters don't feel safe, nor do I always. It feels like low level disorder and crime are rising, albeit from a very low b

I'm deeply anti-racist so therefore surprised to find myself not liking it. I would say my reasoning is that I do not find that all these new people are yet invested in "keeping Britain tidy" or politeness or any of our cultural norms. I've concluded its not race I'm objecting to, it's a feeling of transience and lost value alignment. It's too quick. Who knows, when everyone settles in, and i get used to it, that might

On this basis, I feel very worried about the future. I see the response and reaction in some sections of society and I think, to an extent, they're right that our politicians have sold us all out. They've sat in ivory towers of white middle class areas and allowed unprecedented mass migration. And some of that hasn't been brilliant for the settled populati

Not your Nigerian nurse bringing up her kids. Not your South Asian doctor. But the huge numbers of people who are clearly finding illegitimate routes in, and are then unable to be removed. Its gone too far.

The vast majority of of women are raped or assaulted by white men. But yes ..the sentences for those offences are pitiful. Check out the real figures, they are not hard to find...

You've still not said why though.

I don't understand why you're struggling with this.

I have plenty of other options BTW - like a lot of Londoners I've got more than half a million quid in equity in my home and could easily move out of London. I don't want to. My husband is brown. The last thing I'd want is to be surrounded by Reform voters and Tories. You people are scary.

The far left also lack the ability to be credible. I mean look at far left Corbyn for example. He tried to get himself into number 10 and got his arse handed to him on a plate, yet here he is trying to get through the door again. It’s getting embarrassing….

I was under the impression that there are no safe routes now or "correct process"

The police have banned masks so they can identify them.

I don't have to say anything to them. I am separated from them by not wearing a mask and being violent.

Do you know what my cause is?

So some articles about what might happen rather than… actually something that has already happened ie pissed up thugs smashing up police/high streets/ your local Greggs multiple times over.

Violence against the police, often drunken cocaine fuelled violence, from the far right has massively outnumbered that from the left/antifa. There are thousands of links I can post to prove this.

You’re posting worries about something that hasn’t happened yet

You've still not said why though.
I never said I hated anyone, please quote me if I did because I think you’re confused/miss read something or just being disingenuous. I’ll give you one more chance to make some sense.

I have plenty of other options BTW
I’m sorry I don’t believe you. There’s no way anyone would live there by choice. I wasn’t born yesterday.

Because London is a lovely place to be with its high level of crime, where everyone wants to stab or shoot each other, and where the proof is clear to see that Multiculturism does not work. It’s like being in a war zone spending more than a day there. Yet people still cling on to their £2million shoebox size houses, under the illusion they’re in some sort of utopia, feeling blessed to live in a dirty, dangerous city. Hilarious…..

No There might be unrest in some areas.

Didn't she say something? I would have . Got a couple of Halal grocers close to my house and I never have any trouble being served, always go there for rice, chick peas and spices etc. the prices are brilliant compared to the big supermarkets

You didn’t seem to understand what other posters were talking about and asked me to enlighten you, which I’ve done.

I think we both know why that is...but let's be clear discrimination and prejudice are levelled at many groups in our society some of which have no platform to speak in their own defence. Without help they are completely unable to have aspirations for a bright or different future and that is undemocratic and condemning whole communities to a life without hope. Today in the 21st century poverty is still rife in this country for far too many children. It is not someone else's problem it is our problem and a source of national collective shame in this modern world of ours.