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Was this comment by the waiter a bit off?

280 replies

doriiii · 02/08/2025 08:20

This is something that happened a couple of weeks ago but not sure if I'm being overly sensitive.

Went to meet a few friends for some food in a nice pub. I arrived a bit later due to work hours. When I arrived I asked the waiter where they were sat and he walked me over. I asked if they accepted blue light cards, and he said 'only if you say pretty please'.

It really grossed me out, and I knew he wouldn't have said it to my male friends.

I didn't say anything but did kind of laugh when I said 'right ok'.

AIBU to think it's just a bit of a gross comment?

OP posts:
fruitywineglass · 02/08/2025 10:31

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:30

What do you mean? Why should she include that?

Because she felt the need to say it here, so it must be important.

crumblingschools · 02/08/2025 10:32

I bet a male waiter would not have said it to a male customer.

Saying it to a nephew or close mate is not the same.

Judd · 02/08/2025 10:33

We used to say "pretty please with a cherry on the top and coca cola poured all over" when we really really wanted our friends to do something!

Namechange2700000 · 02/08/2025 10:33

doriiii · 02/08/2025 08:41

Interesting that some people think it's normal/banter and some find it misogynistic. It's more about how it made me feel. Like he was pretending to be the gatekeeper between me and my discount, and I had to say 'pretty please' to be allowed to use it. Maybe I've been working in a feminist organisation too long 😅

“gatekeeper to your discount” @doriiii ?

Seriously?

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 02/08/2025 10:33

Jumpthewaves · 02/08/2025 09:06

If you say so. I believe being friendly is part of being polite.

Except it’s not friendly, it’s patronising. Friendliness extends to all sexes.

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 02/08/2025 10:34

Judd · 02/08/2025 10:33

We used to say "pretty please with a cherry on the top and coca cola poured all over" when we really really wanted our friends to do something!

Friends being the important context here.
Plus the saying of it voluntarily, not the power play of “only if you say…”

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:34

fruitywineglass · 02/08/2025 10:31

Because she felt the need to say it here, so it must be important.

Only in answer to why she didn't reply in the moment. Why would you suggest she use it in a complaint when it's irrelevant to it?

Jumpthewaves · 02/08/2025 10:35

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 02/08/2025 10:33

Except it’s not friendly, it’s patronising. Friendliness extends to all sexes.

That's obviously subjective. Some people seem to choose to be professionally offended.

godmum56 · 02/08/2025 10:35

I wouldn't call it gross as to me that implies stomach turning and vomit making but certainly a bit rude and thoughtless. But two weeks ago????? move on!

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 02/08/2025 10:36

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 02/08/2025 10:05

I don't believe for one minute he would have said that to a man.

Well, we will have to agree to disagree.

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:37

Toastandbutterand · 02/08/2025 10:31

Um, I've said stuff like this to a man (and women)when I was waiting tables.
It's to engage the customer and establish rapport, as you were late he wouldn't have had a chance to do that with you when the rest of the table arrived.

It's supposed to engage you and relax you, not wind you up. He obviously misjudged it, but i dont think it's indicative of misogyny.

It does depend on the restaurant, but most places specifically employ staff who are friendly and flirty.

Jesus. Really shit engagement/rapport-building. I'd loathe that and think you were a twat.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 02/08/2025 10:37

And as for ‘gatekeeping my discount’ - what bollocks.

JMSA · 02/08/2025 10:37

Is that it??

I thought you were going to say something far worse. A stupid, puerile comment for sure but I’d forget about it.

Motherbear44 · 02/08/2025 10:37

WestwardHo1 · 02/08/2025 09:22

I would like to think I would have had the presence of mind to fix him with a Hard Stare and say coldly "Well do you or not?" but I probably wouldn't have done.

What an arsehole.

I’m reading through the messages to find out an appropriate response. I am in my sixties so grew up as a feminist - but there was misogyny all around me. At age 20, as a waitress, I would probably have laughed it off whilst in my head thinking “what an **hole”.

I am surprised to read so many posters saying this is banter. My understanding of banter is there has to be equality in the relationship for it to be appropriate. In this case the waiter is not equal to the customer, unless of course the customer is a regular and then they may already be on friendly terms.

So thanks @WestwardHo1 I love the idea of the stare and repeat of question. I’m not at the age when I am likely to get that sort of comment. That says a lot about it being sexist I think.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 02/08/2025 10:38

MrMucker · 02/08/2025 10:20

You could equally say that your response to sort of laugh a little and stay polite despite being uncomfortable, is not a reaction you would have given to a woman. Does make you a man hater?!

Fact is even if people do respond in certain ways to males versus females it doesn't make them sexist or abusive or controlling or prefudiced, it's just basic socialisation and in this case you are choosing not to see it as benign, which it really is.
Ridiculous thing to be so sensitive about.

Fact is even if people do respond in certain ways to males versus females it doesn't make them sexist or abusive or controlling or prefudiced,

Fact is, responding differently to people soley because of that person's sex, in a situation where the sex is completely irrelevant does make them sexist.

fruitywineglass · 02/08/2025 10:38

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:34

Only in answer to why she didn't reply in the moment. Why would you suggest she use it in a complaint when it's irrelevant to it?

Because I'm a sarcastic ass-hole who thinks the whole thing is a storm in a teacup.

Isitreallysohard · 02/08/2025 10:40

Evaka · 02/08/2025 08:33

Honestly, sounds a bit thick but I'd have forgotten the remark within a few hours. Defo move on from it.

This. Jayzus is this really all you have to worry about in life!

Pearsinspace · 02/08/2025 10:41

doriiii · 02/08/2025 08:24

Caught off guard, in a rush, was on my period and could feel myself leaking and desperate to get to a toilet. Was a very stressful afternoon. I definitely wish I'd have said something and spent about an hour after thinking of all the hilariously witty things I could've said in response.

You don’t need to defend yourself for not speaking up. It’s so annoying when a woman comes on here to complain about a dickhead comment from a man when they’re unprepared and in a public place, and everyone (with the benefit of hindsight and total anonymity!) blames them for not having an instant, hilariously witty comeback that obliterates the whole concept of sexism! 🥱 when most of them would have done the exact same thing…despite them saying “oh no I wouldn’t…I would’ve grabbed his left bollock and twisted so far up his….blah, blah”. No they wouldn’t. They’d do an awkward laugh (cos sometimes that’s just a reflex response) and sat down. He’s the dick in this situation, not you.

Toastandbutterand · 02/08/2025 10:41

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:37

Jesus. Really shit engagement/rapport-building. I'd loathe that and think you were a twat.

And id think you were an awkward customer.

Then I'd move on.

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:42

Jumpthewaves · 02/08/2025 10:35

That's obviously subjective. Some people seem to choose to be professionally offended.

And some people choose to be professionally patronising and dismissive.

If you're in a hospitality role always best not to irritate many of your customers even if humourless people would think they were being hilarious.

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 02/08/2025 10:43

Toastandbutterand · 02/08/2025 10:31

Um, I've said stuff like this to a man (and women)when I was waiting tables.
It's to engage the customer and establish rapport, as you were late he wouldn't have had a chance to do that with you when the rest of the table arrived.

It's supposed to engage you and relax you, not wind you up. He obviously misjudged it, but i dont think it's indicative of misogyny.

It does depend on the restaurant, but most places specifically employ staff who are friendly and flirty.

“Um, I've said stuff like this to a man (and women)” but I’m assuming you’re a woman - that’s the difference.
There’s an unspoken dominance by men that means a phrase like that is patronising coming from a man whereas it’s not in the same way when said by a woman. Might not be right but it’s true.

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:44

Toastandbutterand · 02/08/2025 10:41

And id think you were an awkward customer.

Then I'd move on.

And you'd be wrong.

Jumpthewaves · 02/08/2025 10:45

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:42

And some people choose to be professionally patronising and dismissive.

If you're in a hospitality role always best not to irritate many of your customers even if humourless people would think they were being hilarious.

Most people would think nothing of the comment. It was a complete non-event. I just don't look for problems where there are clearly none.

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:46

fruitywineglass · 02/08/2025 10:38

Because I'm a sarcastic ass-hole who thinks the whole thing is a storm in a teacup.

Still doesn't explain why periods are relevant.

fruitywineglass · 02/08/2025 10:47

bananafake · 02/08/2025 10:46

Still doesn't explain why periods are relevant.

I agree.

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