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Was this comment by the waiter a bit off?

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doriiii · 02/08/2025 08:20

This is something that happened a couple of weeks ago but not sure if I'm being overly sensitive.

Went to meet a few friends for some food in a nice pub. I arrived a bit later due to work hours. When I arrived I asked the waiter where they were sat and he walked me over. I asked if they accepted blue light cards, and he said 'only if you say pretty please'.

It really grossed me out, and I knew he wouldn't have said it to my male friends.

I didn't say anything but did kind of laugh when I said 'right ok'.

AIBU to think it's just a bit of a gross comment?

OP posts:
BopItWinner · 04/08/2025 11:36

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He wouldn’t have said it to a man, and although I would have just ignored it, the people who don’t see any misogyny in the comment at all, just goes to show how ingrained it is into society.

It’s similar to when men say to women ‘smile, it might never happen’ or say things like ‘keep it up’ when women are out running. The comments can seem harmless, but I’ve had all of these comments said to me many times in my life, so has daughter, but my son and male partner haven’t. Men don’t really say these things to other men but feel they can to women.

Calliopespa · 04/08/2025 11:50

BopItWinner · 04/08/2025 11:36

He wouldn’t have said it to a man, and although I would have just ignored it, the people who don’t see any misogyny in the comment at all, just goes to show how ingrained it is into society.

It’s similar to when men say to women ‘smile, it might never happen’ or say things like ‘keep it up’ when women are out running. The comments can seem harmless, but I’ve had all of these comments said to me many times in my life, so has daughter, but my son and male partner haven’t. Men don’t really say these things to other men but feel they can to women.

I heard a male delivery driver say "Smile it may never happen" to a male tradesman working for us about a week ago.

TheSwarm · 04/08/2025 12:15

To be still thinking about this 2 weeks later is a bit nuts.

It's just a (perhaps slightly clumsy) attempt at being lighthearted/ personable.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 12:18

Anchorage56 · 02/08/2025 16:33

Where is it fact? And if a male waiter is hoping for a tip from a female customer then why would it be sexist that he would speak to her differently from male customers.

Why on earth would it NOT be sexist?

If a waiter, of either sex, is expecting a tip from me, or my husband, then they should for starters do their job efficiently, remember the order, be polite and friendly, but not overly friendly to the point of becoming irritating.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 12:22

ccridersuz · 02/08/2025 14:12

Seriously?.
You need to get out more.
Having worked in all aspects the hospitality trade, there are too many personalities to mention and everyone is different.
Did it not occur to you he was trying to make you smile? Or give you a giggle?.
Working in this business now (Retired) must be a nightmare, with everybody taking offence over the slightest little comment, like OP for instance.
I suspect the art of banter has been seriously curtailed since my day, it’s called free speech, but its people like OP in government that are seriously putting it in danger.
The waiter may or may not say this to a man, but I’ve a suspicion he’s got a phrase he uses on men.
As someone who worked in this sector, break the ice or make someone smile or laugh with a witty, sarcastic or sometimes rude/crude remark was almost the norm.
I loved working behind a bar, collecting glasses, waiting tables, for the banter, especially when the tips proved you had done a good job.
It’s an awful shame that your freedom of speech, due to wingy, moaners and woke government, means that hospitality staff cannot open their mouth, without someone taking offence!.

You would have got a tip from me or my husband if you did your job well, were polite and friendly, but not in our faces friendly.

I suspect from your post you wouldn't have got a tip.

Ashley911 · 04/08/2025 12:24

I don't really think it is a big deal yes men can be kind of sexist but it's just one of those things I wouldn't take too personally

BopItWinner · 04/08/2025 12:40

Calliopespa · 04/08/2025 11:50

I heard a male delivery driver say "Smile it may never happen" to a male tradesman working for us about a week ago.

Even if you did, it’s not common, the reasons will be different and women have comments like this said to them a lot. Thats the point. I’ve had men say things like it to me and then when my male partner walks in the room, they act completely different. It’s misogyny, plain and simple. My partner, son, dad, brothers don’t have this stuff said to them. The comment made to OP wasn’t a huge deal, but the comment and ones like it, are still rooted in misogyny and to say otherwise is naive at best.

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 13:14

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 12:18

Why on earth would it NOT be sexist?

If a waiter, of either sex, is expecting a tip from me, or my husband, then they should for starters do their job efficiently, remember the order, be polite and friendly, but not overly friendly to the point of becoming irritating.

🙄 he made a jokey comment, should be harmless but hey its 2025 and anything can be perceived as misogynistic!

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 13:23

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 13:14

🙄 he made a jokey comment, should be harmless but hey its 2025 and anything can be perceived as misogynistic!

Why do you think waiters should be treating customers differently because of their sex?

A poster said And if a male waiter is hoping for a tip from a female customer then why would it be sexist that he would speak to her differently from male customers.

Why? What different service should I get just because I'm a woman?

LemonCheesecake2025 · 04/08/2025 13:44

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 13:14

🙄 he made a jokey comment, should be harmless but hey its 2025 and anything can be perceived as misogynistic!

The word is so overused on here and some people are so easily offended.

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 13:50

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 13:23

Why do you think waiters should be treating customers differently because of their sex?

A poster said And if a male waiter is hoping for a tip from a female customer then why would it be sexist that he would speak to her differently from male customers.

Why? What different service should I get just because I'm a woman?

Because if he is straight he wont flirt with men in the same way will he! Just like I might flirt with a man but would speak differently to a female customer.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 13:51

LemonCheesecake2025 · 04/08/2025 13:44

The word is so overused on here and some people are so easily offended.

It's not a question personally of "being offended" - more who is this idiot who thinks making idiotic comments like that is going to make me give him a tip?

Despite the protestations from some that he'd say it to a man too I don't believe for one minute he would.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 13:55

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 13:50

Because if he is straight he wont flirt with men in the same way will he! Just like I might flirt with a man but would speak differently to a female customer.

Why do you think your customers want to flirt with you?

Oh and, even if they did, how do you and the idiot we're talking about know your customer's sexual orientation? You'd be on a hiding to nothing if you started flirting with the most handsome man in my friendship group.

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 13:57

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 13:55

Why do you think your customers want to flirt with you?

Oh and, even if they did, how do you and the idiot we're talking about know your customer's sexual orientation? You'd be on a hiding to nothing if you started flirting with the most handsome man in my friendship group.

Well hopefully anyone serving you quickly cottons on to your attitude and doesnt make the grave mistake of having a bit of harmless banter with you.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 14:01

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 13:57

Well hopefully anyone serving you quickly cottons on to your attitude and doesnt make the grave mistake of having a bit of harmless banter with you.

And you're the one hoping for tips?

It's actually quite pathetic that you think "flirting" will help. But do tell me how you know whether a customer is straight or gay so you can decide to turn on the "flirting".

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 14:04

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 14:01

And you're the one hoping for tips?

It's actually quite pathetic that you think "flirting" will help. But do tell me how you know whether a customer is straight or gay so you can decide to turn on the "flirting".

🤣 why you so angry

Justchilling07 · 04/08/2025 14:04

Dangermoo · 02/08/2025 08:45

It's times like this when I wonder if we are in danger of seeing misogyny around every corner. We already know it exists and always will in our lifetime. However, to scrutinise every throw away comment, aimed at women, must be exhausting. Just say screw you, if it offends you or OK pretty, do you accept blue light cards, please. How you can be "grossed out" by that, I don't know.

Well after reading your previous comment, according to you, older ladies, a comment like that would have made their night!! How old, is an older lady? And why would being older, make it ok.
You’re now talking about misogyny being around every corner and throw away comments should be ignored How hypocritical.

Ashley911 · 04/08/2025 14:05

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 14:01

And you're the one hoping for tips?

It's actually quite pathetic that you think "flirting" will help. But do tell me how you know whether a customer is straight or gay so you can decide to turn on the "flirting".

Maybe the waiter in question was gay though so it could be taken out of that context anyway

Dangermoo · 04/08/2025 14:06

Justchilling07 · 04/08/2025 14:04

Well after reading your previous comment, according to you, older ladies, a comment like that would have made their night!! How old, is an older lady? And why would being older, make it ok.
You’re now talking about misogyny being around every corner and throw away comments should be ignored How hypocritical.

What previous comment, about older ladies?

Ashley911 · 04/08/2025 14:08

And look at these ads we're getting at the side, depicting women's bodies at different ages as blobs of melting ice cream

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 14:23

Ashley911 · 04/08/2025 14:05

Maybe the waiter in question was gay though so it could be taken out of that context anyway

Maybe waiters could just try being friendly, polite and helpful and get the order right without speculating on your customers' sexual orientation.

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 14:34

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 14:23

Maybe waiters could just try being friendly, polite and helpful and get the order right without speculating on your customers' sexual orientation.

Thats not even what that poster said! Honestly a quick throw away jokey comment isnt going to stop the waiter doing a good job.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 14:39

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 14:34

Thats not even what that poster said! Honestly a quick throw away jokey comment isnt going to stop the waiter doing a good job.

Which poster are you referring to? I'm talking about the one who tailors her chat so that she "flirts" with male customers.

Just like I might flirt with a man but would speak differently to a female customer.

How does she know what their sexual orientation is? Why not just try being friendly, polite and helpful for all customers?

Anchorage56 · 04/08/2025 14:49

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 04/08/2025 14:39

Which poster are you referring to? I'm talking about the one who tailors her chat so that she "flirts" with male customers.

Just like I might flirt with a man but would speak differently to a female customer.

How does she know what their sexual orientation is? Why not just try being friendly, polite and helpful for all customers?

🤦‍♀️ the poster said the waiter might have been gay and you replied to that poster to say the waiter shouldnt be speculating on customer's sexual orientation. She didn't say he would be guessing if his customers were gay, simply that he could be gay.

Justchilling07 · 04/08/2025 15:51

@Anchorage56 That makes no sense, so if someone is gay that’s ok then, they can be unprofessional, make inappropriate comments and flirt.
It doesn’t matter what your sexuality is, they’re paid to be professional, their job is to be polite and make all customers feel welcome.If a customer has been offended, it’s ok to say so.