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I couldn’t sleep last night, worrying about a Reform government

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Cluborange666 · 01/08/2025 09:15

I am really worried. I think they’ll wreck the economy. I’ve got a few years left to pay off my mortgage from my job that deals with immigrants. I don’t want our pensions to tank. I don’t want my sons’ lives to be messed around. I worry about more racism, the more ‘voice’ that Reform get. I live in a very multicultural city and non-white people tell me that they are experiencing more overt racism. It makes me feel very insecure about the future.

wish Labour would do more to show that they are on the side of ordinary people as I think that’s what is driving this (I’m a Labour voter). I don’t think the creation of Your Party will help, just give Reform more advantages.

Sigh. Happy to be told I’m unreasonable as I think the future looks bleak.

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TheNuthatch · 01/08/2025 12:21

oliverreed · 01/08/2025 12:20

What could go wrong when they’re putting 19 year olds in charge of social services departments:

https://basw.co.uk/about-social-work/psw-magazine/articles/reform-councillors-aged-19-and-22-charge-childrens-and

Do you support lowering the voting age to 16?

hannonle · 01/08/2025 12:21

Can we borrow Hugh Grant from Love Actually? Someone with the balls to say what we are going to do and do it?
I hate Trump, but he's at least standing up for his country and doing what he said he would. We're all so passive and not wanting to offend here.

JHound · 01/08/2025 12:21

MiloMinderbinder925 · 01/08/2025 12:19

They weren't put off by Brexit.

Yep. People still defend the Brexit decision now. I can understand the vote for it in 2016 but not those who still think we benefitted in 2025.

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:23

Radioundermypillow · 01/08/2025 12:18

The one blossom posted seems to say that some businesses are raising wages, which is not the same as business growth. It also says that the job market is beginning to stagnate.

It also says business confidence is the highest it’s been for nine years. With such a huge disparity in reporting it seems to suggest a very mixed picture.

CeaselesslyIntoThePast · 01/08/2025 12:25

Bookies put Farage as best odds as the next prime minister by some distance. That says it all.

Guavafish1 · 01/08/2025 12:26

Racism is crazy in the UK… there are 1/2/3 class citizens

MiloMinderbinder925 · 01/08/2025 12:27

JHound · 01/08/2025 12:21

Yep. People still defend the Brexit decision now. I can understand the vote for it in 2016 but not those who still think we benefitted in 2025.

They know it was a con based on lies and misinformation and that we're a lot worse off for it. Surely it's pure stubbornness that keeps them coming back for more.

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:29

CeaselesslyIntoThePast · 01/08/2025 12:25

Bookies put Farage as best odds as the next prime minister by some distance. That says it all.

I wonder what the odds will be when they’ve got a four year track record of running councils. The odds now are about as relevant as a four year weather forecast.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/08/2025 12:29

MRP polls are startling. The first past the post system, built to keep out the small parties, will see Farage collect an avalanche of seat in the next g.e. if the current voting intention stands.

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:30

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/08/2025 12:29

MRP polls are startling. The first past the post system, built to keep out the small parties, will see Farage collect an avalanche of seat in the next g.e. if the current voting intention stands.

It’s a big if.

Radioundermypillow · 01/08/2025 12:31

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:23

It also says business confidence is the highest it’s been for nine years. With such a huge disparity in reporting it seems to suggest a very mixed picture.

I dont really understand it either to be honest. If you look at the government's own charts it doesn't look as optimistic as that Lloyds report, particularly in manufacturing.

user9064385631 · 01/08/2025 12:32

MickGeorge22 · 01/08/2025 11:08

The charity I work for has had to find an extra £400k since the NI increases. I will be out of a job next year. Our local hospice( also a charity ) has just halved beds and made staff including nurses redundant.

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Same here - our local hospice had opened a new building a few years back. It now sits empty as they can no longer afford to staff it because of the NI increases. Utter madness.

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:32

Radioundermypillow · 01/08/2025 12:31

I dont really understand it either to be honest. If you look at the government's own charts it doesn't look as optimistic as that Lloyds report, particularly in manufacturing.

There are more sources quoting lowest business confidence since pandemic than the opposite.

CeaselesslyIntoThePast · 01/08/2025 12:32

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:29

I wonder what the odds will be when they’ve got a four year track record of running councils. The odds now are about as relevant as a four year weather forecast.

That’s true I agree. But they are keeping their payouts low based on what they think is the most likely outcome as of today. And that’s worrying enough.

Radioundermypillow · 01/08/2025 12:33

I've never known a year in recent memory where recently graduated kids can't get summer jobs, or entry level retail positions.

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 12:34

Radioundermypillow · 01/08/2025 12:33

I've never known a year in recent memory where recently graduated kids can't get summer jobs, or entry level retail positions.

Labour supporters can’t all be immune with people they know.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/08/2025 12:35

Well, of course it is. Although, I wonder what you think Labour might have up its sleeve to get the electorate back on side?

At the moment, more in common think Reform will have 170 more seats than Labour, Find out now over 200, YouGov more than 100 - that's a lot of momentum Labour will need to gather.

MycatLarry · 01/08/2025 12:36

Screamingabdabz · 01/08/2025 10:20

Reform are already winning the polls in local elections and the people who want to vote Reform are already itching to put their x on the ballot paper.

Whether people like it or not, they’ll win the next election for sure because vast swathes ordinary people are sick to death of feeling helpless and worried and being told it’s racist to object to the policies of mass immigration. Reform voters largely live in areas affected most significantly by those policies (or lack of them) and their quality of life affects their worldview and voting intentions.

So I’d pace yourself a bit on the sleepless nights and be a bit more curious about people’s genuine concerns before naively branding people as blind bigots. I don’t like the lurch to far right parties any more than you, but people like you who call everybody racist, are part of the problem and don’t even realise it.

💯this, completely agree (I live in an affected area).

CurlewKate · 01/08/2025 12:37

hannonle · 01/08/2025 12:21

Can we borrow Hugh Grant from Love Actually? Someone with the balls to say what we are going to do and do it?
I hate Trump, but he's at least standing up for his country and doing what he said he would. We're all so passive and not wanting to offend here.

Trump isn’t actually doing what he said he will do. Gaza? Ukraine?

activecurtains · 01/08/2025 12:37

LavenderBlue19 · 01/08/2025 09:20

I agree, it's terrifying. I'm hoping Farage will run away if he thinks they might actually win, as being PM will be far too much work for him. Without him I think/hope they'd struggle.

Labour need better PR managers, fast.

That’s exactly the problem - it’s all PR and no policies.

On the illegal immigration issue (which is apparently a very big concern for a lot of people), Labour occasionally put out a press release vaguely hinting at doing something but then nothing seems to happen. Meanwhile, rightly or wrongly, a lot of anger is brewing over the extra pressure on local services but still the gov appears to be frozen and unable to work on a humane solution.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 01/08/2025 12:37

Radioundermypillow · 01/08/2025 12:33

I've never known a year in recent memory where recently graduated kids can't get summer jobs, or entry level retail positions.

Try being a graduate under Thatcher

smallglassbottle · 01/08/2025 12:38

There won't be a country left by the end of the next four years, so it's pointless worrying about what the future might look like apart from we know it won't be good regardless of who gets in. The West is coming to an end and we're in for a bumpy ride. Just take each day as it comes.

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