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I couldn’t sleep last night, worrying about a Reform government

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Cluborange666 · 01/08/2025 09:15

I am really worried. I think they’ll wreck the economy. I’ve got a few years left to pay off my mortgage from my job that deals with immigrants. I don’t want our pensions to tank. I don’t want my sons’ lives to be messed around. I worry about more racism, the more ‘voice’ that Reform get. I live in a very multicultural city and non-white people tell me that they are experiencing more overt racism. It makes me feel very insecure about the future.

wish Labour would do more to show that they are on the side of ordinary people as I think that’s what is driving this (I’m a Labour voter). I don’t think the creation of Your Party will help, just give Reform more advantages.

Sigh. Happy to be told I’m unreasonable as I think the future looks bleak.

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LittleAlexHornesPocket · 01/08/2025 12:07

I work in the public sector and I'm fully aware that if Reform get in then my service will be screwed along with the rest of the country.

However, that being said, I sort of want it to happen because it will be SUCH a shit show that the idiots that keep voting for these chumps will finally be forced to see Nigel for the grifter he is.

1one · 01/08/2025 12:08

SerendipityJane · 01/08/2025 11:26

Yesterdays Dagenham and Barking by-election. Wonder why the fact Reform came 3rd isn't mentioned on the news ?

Barking by name, barking by nature😁

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:08

Funny how much things have apparently changed in just a month. I’d trust this one more.

www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-business-confidence-levels-hit-highest-since-2015-lloyds-says-2025-06-29/

JHound · 01/08/2025 12:09

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 11:36

Would that be to a country that does have secure borders? And resolved the problem over a decade ago.

To a country with a significantly higher immigrant population and immigration rate than the UK.

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:10

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:08

Funny how much things have apparently changed in just a month. I’d trust this one more.

www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-business-confidence-levels-hit-highest-since-2015-lloyds-says-2025-06-29/

You would.
FT however also reporting the same but let me guess, you wouldn't listen to them either!
https://www.ft.com/content/38d3fad2-e168-4f04-9500-26ad9c277e1b

Client Challenge

https://www.ft.com/content/38d3fad2-e168-4f04-9500-26ad9c277e1b

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 12:11

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:08

Funny how much things have apparently changed in just a month. I’d trust this one more.

www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-business-confidence-levels-hit-highest-since-2015-lloyds-says-2025-06-29/

Why? There’s no reason other than Labour loyalty.

https://www.ft.com/content/38d3fad2-e168-4f04-9500-26ad9c277e1b

JHound · 01/08/2025 12:11

SerendipityJane · 01/08/2025 11:26

Yesterdays Dagenham and Barking by-election. Wonder why the fact Reform came 3rd isn't mentioned on the news ?

That surprises me - that in Barking, Reform came behind the Greens.

THE GREENS!!

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:11

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:10

You would.
FT however also reporting the same but let me guess, you wouldn't listen to them either!
https://www.ft.com/content/38d3fad2-e168-4f04-9500-26ad9c277e1b

Explain to me how business confidence could possibly change to that extent in 31 days.

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 12:12

JHound · 01/08/2025 12:09

To a country with a significantly higher immigrant population and immigration rate than the UK.

And border security. If we vote the same in people would be as happy about it and keep it as bipartisan.

Kulwinder54 · 01/08/2025 12:12

there WILL be racism now in this country because all governments have continually failed to listen to the public on immigration. what do you expect? what is your solution?

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JHound · 01/08/2025 12:12

LittleAlexHornesPocket · 01/08/2025 12:07

I work in the public sector and I'm fully aware that if Reform get in then my service will be screwed along with the rest of the country.

However, that being said, I sort of want it to happen because it will be SUCH a shit show that the idiots that keep voting for these chumps will finally be forced to see Nigel for the grifter he is.

That’s kind of how I feel.

Reform can claim to be whatever they want. The truth will come out when they are in power.

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:13

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:11

Explain to me how business confidence could possibly change to that extent in 31 days.

Or this from December

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/dec/01/uk-business-confidence-at-lowest-level-since-pandemic-after-tax-raising-budget

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:14

Then explain to me how it could have changed so dramatically in 16 days. That’s even more unfeasible.

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:14

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:11

Explain to me how business confidence could possibly change to that extent in 31 days.

Or this from February

https://www.leasinglife.com/news/uk-small-business-confidence-falls/

Cleochapter · 01/08/2025 12:15

I get you OP. I'm far more worried about the level of illegal immigration though. I'm worried it's actually too late and this country is fucked.

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:15

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:14

Then explain to me how it could have changed so dramatically in 16 days. That’s even more unfeasible.

You tell me! I have now posted several different sources all saying the same thing from Dec 24 onwards.
You are the one claiming confidence is fine, you tell me how you can claim this when majority are saying the opposite.

I've even posted The Grauniad for you!

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:16

I’m asking you to explain how two completely opposite things can both be true. You can’t.

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:17

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:16

I’m asking you to explain how two completely opposite things can both be true. You can’t.

The onus is on you to explain it sorry.

You are claiming business confidence is high, how can it be when repeated other sources say it isn't and hasn't been under Labour?

Radioundermypillow · 01/08/2025 12:18

The one blossom posted seems to say that some businesses are raising wages, which is not the same as business growth. It also says that the job market is beginning to stagnate.

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:18

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2025 12:16

I’m asking you to explain how two completely opposite things can both be true. You can’t.

Neither can you 🤣🤣

Kibble19 · 01/08/2025 12:18

Cleochapter · 01/08/2025 12:15

I get you OP. I'm far more worried about the level of illegal immigration though. I'm worried it's actually too late and this country is fucked.

Ha, you’ll get piled on for that. “Nobody is illegal”, “they’re refugees, not illegal immigrants”, “you’re far right, you horrible witch” incoming!

Agree with you though, the country is in some state.

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 12:18

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:15

You tell me! I have now posted several different sources all saying the same thing from Dec 24 onwards.
You are the one claiming confidence is fine, you tell me how you can claim this when majority are saying the opposite.

I've even posted The Grauniad for you!

It’s pointless. There’s plenty for the pp to read.

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 12:18

Radioundermypillow · 01/08/2025 12:18

The one blossom posted seems to say that some businesses are raising wages, which is not the same as business growth. It also says that the job market is beginning to stagnate.

They will defend Labour to the grave, in light of all evidence to the contrary

MiloMinderbinder925 · 01/08/2025 12:19

LittleAlexHornesPocket · 01/08/2025 12:07

I work in the public sector and I'm fully aware that if Reform get in then my service will be screwed along with the rest of the country.

However, that being said, I sort of want it to happen because it will be SUCH a shit show that the idiots that keep voting for these chumps will finally be forced to see Nigel for the grifter he is.

They weren't put off by Brexit.

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