I couldn’t sleep last night, worrying about a Reform government

[Cluborange666]

I am really worried. I think they’ll wreck the economy. I’ve got a few years left to pay off my mortgage from my job that deals with immigrants. I don’t want our pensions to tank. I don’t want my sons’ lives to be messed around. I worry about more racism, the more ‘voice’ that Reform get. I live in a very multicultural city and non-white people tell me that they are experiencing more overt racism. It makes me feel very insecure about the future.

wish Labour would do more to show that they are on the side of ordinary people as I think that’s what is driving this (I’m a Labour voter). I don’t think the creation of Your Party will help, just give Reform more advantages.

Sigh. Happy to be told I’m unreasonable as I think the future looks bleak.

I think the kids should be out on the streets protesting. If they were French they would be ;)

I agree completely. My son is just finishing his Masters and goodness knows what he will do next. He can do a bit of freelance work but it's pocket money.

The massive youth unemployment problem is being disguised by the fact that a lot of them are claiming benefits for mental health issues. But if they had jobs, they wouldn't have the mental health issues! It's chicken and egg.

I feel dirty writing this cause I don't even like the red Tories but I'm genuinely baffled by the entitlement and expectations from the right. After over 14 years of right-wing austerity, where public services were gutted, infrastructure neglected, national assets sold off, debt ballooned and immigration rose every single year, they now not only expect but demand Labour to fix everything within a year.

And because that hasn’t magically happened, their solution is to vote for an even more right-wing government? Definition of insanity comes to mind.

I mean take immigration. Strip away the constant hysteria that billionaire robber Barron controlled media spouts out, and you’ll see that Labour have at least begun to shift the direction of travel.

They've made changes to asylum legislation around using hotels to house claimants, pledged to boost enforcement, announced plans for a new Border Security Command, committed to hiring more asylum caseworkers, and re-opened diplomatic channels with Europe over Channel crossings.

Have they solved the problem? Obviously not, but they're showing clear intent to tackle it. But because the media thrive on outrage and are more interested in fuelling division than reporting progress, the narrative remains all doom and gloom. Really not sure what more people are expecting

Denmark is on its knees with problems.

I think the majority of politicians are terrified to deal with immigration for fear of being branded a racist.

Immigration is important for every country, but it needs to have a better system than issuing tents and a payment.

We've the same problems in Ireland. People who were once easy-going have turned into loons, the cost of living is through the roof, businesses are closing, hotels are closed to the public, the hotels available are extortionate, impacting the tourist industry, no tourists = local restaurant's and cafés closing, lack of housing and health care. No job security.

1000's on illness benefit.

Sadly, citizens are blaming the wrongs on innocent people, it is a shit show.

I'm not sure why you're worried about losing your job under a Reform government OP. The charity I work for is making massive redundancies due to employment cost increases. The employers having to deal with NI costs aren't just the big profit makers like Tesco. It's charities, tiny family-owned businesses and social enterprises too.

I suppose it's possible Reform could make more of a mess of the economy than Labour but the current government is pretty shit.

With all those things numbers are going up, so it seems they’re choosing the wrong soundbites.

Exactly. There have been many threads on mn regarding professions/jobs that are hopefully more future-proof. I think this is a worry is that is shared by many people out there rn.

Personally, I have been doing a second job and I've been shovelling all that cash into investments LISA and ISA, as well as pensions. I want to be able to help the kids eventually, but the best thing I can do is ensure I can ride-out the next 15 years with security.

My two eldest are doing ok although eldest works ridiculous hours for rubbish pay. I worry for my youngest son. He is intelligent and motivated but can't even find a summer job whilst at Uni. HIs gf has just graduated and can't find work either despite a good degree. The job market is dire, people all around me losing jobs. I think we should all protest more and think things will reach boiling point soon. People have just had enough.

'Good for you. I do think it is. Especially lying awake at night unable to sleep because of it.'

You don't sound like someone who should be sleeping easy. Ugh.

Yesterdays Dagenham and Barking by-election. Wonder why the fact Reform came 3rd isn't mentioned on the news ?

LOL!

Every mainstream party is openly and verbally anti-immigration.

Would that be to a country that does have secure borders? And resolved the problem over a decade ago.

Not sure if you noticed, but it wasn't the Labour government that brought us to the economic disaster area that they took over.

Haven't they?

https://www.mitrade.com/insights/news/live-news/article-3-1003695-20250801

They had the chance to put things right, instead they've taken the conscious decision to make things worse!

The business people I know are very fed up under labour, far worse than the tories. These are people that run ethical, successful businesses, pay all their taxes and employ people. It's absurd to punish them.

I'm more likely to lose sleep worrying about there not being a major change in 2029. I'm no fan of Farage or Reform, but another business-as-usual government is likely to tip this country over the edge.

What does "Conservative policies seemed to be refit" mean? They were utterly useless, witness the fortune they spent on the Rwanda nonsense which was never going to work.

People arriving by boat whose claim to asylum is recognised are not illegal immigrants, and around 78% of those arriving by boat come into that category.

Net migration last year was actually well down from the two preceding years when, let me see, the Conservatives were in power. Labour is processing immigration and asylum applications much more efficiently than the Conservatives did. They are talking much more effectively to the French about steps to be taken their end.

Unless Reform are going down the Trump path of building concentration camps, if elected they are not going to achieve anything with immigration before they ruin the economy and get chucked out.

The simple fact is that the left ("progressives" if you prefer) have lost public support both here and in the EU and most certainly in the US!

Until such time and they can get that support back - and I don't believe "Your Party" has a snowball's chance in hell of doing that - Reform will make hay.

Never happen. FPTP works too well in the major parties' favour for either to scrap it.

Four years is a long time in politics as for Reform they are peddling the same nonsense as the National Front and BNP.
I googled both their newspapers of the time the headlines are the same as now
The British way of life is being eroded.
Immigration it's happening.
1 in 3 will be black in regards to population.
The consultant barage that Britain is under siege simply isn't true and it's not helped by the Daily heil peddling their race hate articles.

Constant not consultant

Not what I thought I typed, should have said seemed to be working, don’t know how refit came up and when I realised it was too late to edit. As for net migration being down, that’s not what reform will work on, it’s the illegal migration and that is definitely up

The problem is not what's spent on the comms team. The problem is there is NO coherent message.

Labour could be 100% on target and efficient and still lose in 2029 if they have no vision of the future to sell to the voters.

They are in now only because people were sick of the Tories, not because the electorate particularly wanted a Labour Govt. They just wanted rid of the Conservatives.

The current government are Reform’s best weapon. They’re doing half the work for them in making sure people vote Reform at the next opportunity.

Its amazing the amount of people who now openly state they will vote reform, remember when on here if you said you were a conservative voter you got pounced on!! Now people openly state on here and in person they will be voting for reform, thats a massive shift, as more people openly state they are voting reform the momentum will continue.

You can't deny that when the left push their narrative that the 'right are wrong' without understanding there is more than one way to vote then the right become more empowered. Labour are in power now. I said id give the benefit of the doubt and see what they can do, so far im unconvinced