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I couldn’t sleep last night, worrying about a Reform government

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Cluborange666 · 01/08/2025 09:15

I am really worried. I think they’ll wreck the economy. I’ve got a few years left to pay off my mortgage from my job that deals with immigrants. I don’t want our pensions to tank. I don’t want my sons’ lives to be messed around. I worry about more racism, the more ‘voice’ that Reform get. I live in a very multicultural city and non-white people tell me that they are experiencing more overt racism. It makes me feel very insecure about the future.

wish Labour would do more to show that they are on the side of ordinary people as I think that’s what is driving this (I’m a Labour voter). I don’t think the creation of Your Party will help, just give Reform more advantages.

Sigh. Happy to be told I’m unreasonable as I think the future looks bleak.

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EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 14:37

Jennps · 01/08/2025 14:28

I agree, you should. You vote for Labour, you own the worsening mess and a Reform surge.

True

NorthXNorthWest · 01/08/2025 14:39

I have voted that you are BU because Reform aren't the problem. It's those people who will vote for him that you should be concerned about.

PandoraSocks · 01/08/2025 14:41

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 14:35

Meh you survived your many anti Tory posts and threads.

Even now when Labour are actually in.

Edited

Luckily, I have always had low blood pressure.

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 14:42

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 14:34

I'm not spewing racist hate but I'm fucking fuming.
So only hate on subjects which you approve on is acceptable? Only you approved topics of hate are acceptable? Now who/what does that remind me of.........some recently passed Act.....🤔

What of it anyway Labour are doing a terrible job. Not everyone gives them a free pass as the pp does. They deserve the backlash.

Jennps · 01/08/2025 14:43

Honestly it’s sad and entertaining in equal measure to watch all the frothing about the Reform surge. It need never have come to this. But the those supporting Tory and Labour corruption and incompetence have caused this.

Ballooning public spending, benefits, freebies and handouts since 1997.

Mass immigration and open borders to the extent that we have had higher immigration since 1997 than the entire period before that since records began. Imagine that. How was that not going to cause problems.

Debt to GDP ration over 100%

Borrowing and printing trillions to pay for public sector and welfare largesse.

Economic vandalism and active destruction of our largest publicly owned companies and businesses. London Stock Exchange is avoided by companies looking to list, like the plague. Oil sector destroyed with punitive taxation. Even Astra Zeneca is leaving the UK and headed to the US.

Vandalism to public trust in institutions and extreme batshittery, apparently labelled as progressive values. Get done for a non crime hate incident if you post something perfectly legal on social media. A man says he is a woman, you object to calling him a ‘her’ and sharing the changing room, and you get cancelled, lose your job.

There is so much more. Can Reform fix it. Probably not. Could they make it worse than Labour and Tories. Likely not.

Screamingabdabz · 01/08/2025 14:48

NorthXNorthWest · 01/08/2025 14:39

I have voted that you are BU because Reform aren't the problem. It's those people who will vote for him that you should be concerned about.

You realise they’re just ordinary people? The same people who live in your street. The woman on the checkout. The man who delivers your mail. They’re not a separate demographic group like a bunch of skinheads! 🙄

Goldenbear · 01/08/2025 14:51

Screamingabdabz · 01/08/2025 14:48

You realise they’re just ordinary people? The same people who live in your street. The woman on the checkout. The man who delivers your mail. They’re not a separate demographic group like a bunch of skinheads! 🙄

Well they are, they are the Reform voting demographic.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/08/2025 14:55

So, the problem with Reform voters is that ... they are voting for Reform, and that's what you have to watch out for? 🤣🤣🤣

skymagentatwo · 01/08/2025 14:56

Goldenbear · 01/08/2025 14:51

Well they are, they are the Reform voting demographic.

😂Please enlighten me what is a reform demographic? I would love to know what demographic myself and my friends are?

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 14:57

skymagentatwo · 01/08/2025 14:56

😂Please enlighten me what is a reform demographic? I would love to know what demographic myself and my friends are?

Edited

Not bigoted Labour voters?

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 14:57

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/08/2025 14:55

So, the problem with Reform voters is that ... they are voting for Reform, and that's what you have to watch out for? 🤣🤣🤣

😬

Goldenbear · 01/08/2025 14:57

Jennps · 01/08/2025 14:43

Honestly it’s sad and entertaining in equal measure to watch all the frothing about the Reform surge. It need never have come to this. But the those supporting Tory and Labour corruption and incompetence have caused this.

Ballooning public spending, benefits, freebies and handouts since 1997.

Mass immigration and open borders to the extent that we have had higher immigration since 1997 than the entire period before that since records began. Imagine that. How was that not going to cause problems.

Debt to GDP ration over 100%

Borrowing and printing trillions to pay for public sector and welfare largesse.

Economic vandalism and active destruction of our largest publicly owned companies and businesses. London Stock Exchange is avoided by companies looking to list, like the plague. Oil sector destroyed with punitive taxation. Even Astra Zeneca is leaving the UK and headed to the US.

Vandalism to public trust in institutions and extreme batshittery, apparently labelled as progressive values. Get done for a non crime hate incident if you post something perfectly legal on social media. A man says he is a woman, you object to calling him a ‘her’ and sharing the changing room, and you get cancelled, lose your job.

There is so much more. Can Reform fix it. Probably not. Could they make it worse than Labour and Tories. Likely not.

So you are arguing that Reform can't fix things, in which case you are equally alarmed about a Reform victory as the terrible state of affairs you described above will remain the same?

Goldenbear · 01/08/2025 15:00

skymagentatwo · 01/08/2025 14:56

😂Please enlighten me what is a reform demographic? I would love to know what demographic myself and my friends are?

Edited

I think we all know what a Reform voters looks and sounds like, just take a look at many of the threads on MN these days for a good insight.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/08/2025 15:01

What does a reform voter look like? Could you point at one in a line up?

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 15:02

Goldenbear · 01/08/2025 15:00

I think we all know what a Reform voters looks and sounds like, just take a look at many of the threads on MN these days for a good insight.

Just like we have a good idea of what a Labour voter looks and sounds like. 1 homogenous lump of sneering bigotry. Yes?

skymagentatwo · 01/08/2025 15:02

Goldenbear · 01/08/2025 15:00

I think we all know what a Reform voters looks and sounds like, just take a look at many of the threads on MN these days for a good insight.

No i genuinely do not know, thats why im asking? please educate me, what do reform voters sound and look like?

You make them sound like one homogeneous species.

I'm also struggling to decipher how you hear someone's voice on MN???

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 15:03

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/08/2025 15:01

What does a reform voter look like? Could you point at one in a line up?

If someone voted Labour last time but Reform next time do they change their looks?

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 15:03

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/08/2025 15:01

What does a reform voter look like? Could you point at one in a line up?

Of course cos they have an "I support Reform" sticker on 🤣

Jennps · 01/08/2025 15:03

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 15:02

Just like we have a good idea of what a Labour voter looks and sounds like. 1 homogenous lump of sneering bigotry. Yes?

More ‘snivelling’ than ‘sneering’ but I get your point.

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 15:04

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 15:03

If someone voted Labour last time but Reform next time do they change their looks?

🤣

Goldenbear · 01/08/2025 15:04

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/08/2025 15:01

What does a reform voter look like? Could you point at one in a line up?

Probably tbh but it is more about the listening than the looking, does the person have an unhealthy obsession over and bang on about migrants...

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 15:04

Jennps · 01/08/2025 15:03

More ‘snivelling’ than ‘sneering’ but I get your point.

Oh I don't know, watch Bigot Phillipson speak. She is definitely 99% sneering.

StandFirm · 01/08/2025 15:04

EasternStandard · 01/08/2025 14:26

Exactly Labour are overseeing this and causing it.

Only fascists cause fascism.

BMW6 · 01/08/2025 15:05

My money's on Boris Johnson coming back as Tory PM and winning the next GE.....😂😉

twistyizzy · 01/08/2025 15:05

Goldenbear · 01/08/2025 15:04

Probably tbh but it is more about the listening than the looking, does the person have an unhealthy obsession over and bang on about migrants...

I can guarantee you wouldn't be able to pick me out 🤣

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