Immigration population up another 700k

[Atallglassimdof]

I understand that this country needs immigration but if you import 100,000s of low skilled workers, in their 30s and 40s, how are they going to fund their retirement or pay for their housing?

It just seems counterintuitive to bring loads of people into this country who will need considerable financial support ( housing benefits, pension credits) when they are no longer able to work, and don’t have the means to support themselves.

no, its not wrong, 700 k odd born, 400k odd immigrant, of which many are temporary, but birth puts a person n the country for a much longer term stint, and costs us a lot more for the first 20 years

Whatever the numbers and the root cause that significant increase in population is only ever increasing pressure on the housing market and public services. The country is taxed to the hilt and still can't finance the building of new homes, schools, hospitals etc to support such an increase in population so ultimately this significant increase in population affects everybody.

A quick google says 700,000 plus international students are at uk unis. They’re our customers, and bring a huge amount of money into the country in the few years they stay here.

How are we going to recruit people who don't wish to do care work into care work?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/30/population-migration-england-wales-data

The ONS found net international migration – the difference between people moving to the country and leaving – accounted for 690,147 of the estimated population increase of 706,881 people, or 98% of the total.

How do you square that circle, then? Reintroduce indentured labour and serfdom? They're not going to increase the pay.

Offer better wages.

Many of the care homes are owned by private equity companies or property developers, who’ll sell the freehold to another company they own whilst loading the care home with loans and fees.

Are wages an issue for people who get a good quality of life not working?

Why work for less free time?

The jobs list is insane.

We should probably offer people in the UK already the chance to train as poets and bloggers.

Skilled worker
www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-occupations-and-codes

Café and restaurant managers and proprietors
Catering operations managers
Takeaway managers and proprietors
Restaurant and catering establishment managers and proprietors not elsewhere classified.

This might be a skilled profession but why can’t we train up school leavers.

Skilled work visas are the most common to be issued. Why assume all coming in are low skilled. Many are highly skilled.

That is exactly what you said in your OP. Now you're back tracking.

And yes, the UK needs care workers, ones who are properly paid.

Do you actually know any young people who are willing to do these jobs? Unless you’re planning on forcing them, I really can’t understand your reasoning.

You'd need to ask those employers why they aren't doing it.

There are a high number of kids who go into catering college or hospitality. There is a pathway at 16 for kids to go into this field.m and 1000s do.

I don't know that I think the OP has quite got the numbers down, but I do think it's important to understand that in economic terms, it doesn't really matter that care home work is important and difficult.

The issue is that they are low paying jobs and so ultimately, whoever is in them, they are use more taxes than they pay.

If too many people are in that situation, the system collapses. Adding more population seems to help short term, whether they are from away or local, but if they are all in lower paid jobs it will become a problem.

The answer would be to increase pay for those jobs. But then, who funds that? And another question is, if the pay was higher, would more British people be willing to take those jobs anyway?

Basically, the solution of immigration will eventually fail.

Our birth rate is shrinking our population is aging . We need more young people to work and have babies so we don’t shrink any further and those babies being born today will pay your pension in couple of decades’ time.
Meh…

Because that what Nigel said. 😆

Yep! Reform doesn’t want to hear this. They want everyone to believe that they are scrounges. If they only how hard and expensive it is to study here as a foreign student and the hoops you have to jump through to get any kind of visa to the UK.

@awkwardasfuck I have lived in my town for 7 years. The first 4 to 5, I did not see people with special needs about. Now I sew them a lot with a care worker who us obviously a new immigrant (am an immigrant to and to a large extent can tell). It makes me wonder what the quality of life of the people were before this spike un care workers. Were they just indoors? It's very very noticeable.

And it's not just care workers.

@Atallglassimdof I when I gave birth (don't worry @Atallglassimdof I went private as I had a good German insurance) all professionals in the room which had 8 specialist due to nature of pregnancy and birth, were immigrants: from Asia, middle east, Africa, one was German). And I know a whole crew of engineers and building inspectors that us mostly Turkish, Italian, Asian, a few african and a good number of Brits. I have a fantasy that we all gone back within weeks. May be you would appreciate what immigrants do in this country. But I realise it's just a wish so you just have to keep hating us. But don't give yourself hypertension. The doc treating you could be a bloody immigrant

Where do you get the quote for number of low skilled workers arriving?

This is what AI told me...

How would 100,000s of low skilled workers enter the UK? It has, notoriously, among the very harshest immigration standards in the world. And how would said immigrants specifically need considerable financial support ( housing benefits, pension credits) - assuming you mean more so over the long long haul than the general population - when even people who come in on marriage or family visas have to prove that they do not need, and agree that they will not access, public funds?

Genuine question. How do we use more tax than we pay? Before a visa is issued, we pay health surcharges to nhs. Then it says on our visas, no recourse to public funds. So what costs do you incur? By the way, am self employed. Not a high earner but I pay between 15,000 and 24,000 per year in income tax and NI. That is on top of thousands in visa renewal every 33 months.

Oh your friend Tommy Robinson is an immigrant elsewhere. You better call him back

That’s hilarious! 😂