Immigration population up another 700k

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I understand that this country needs immigration but if you import 100,000s of low skilled workers, in their 30s and 40s, how are they going to fund their retirement or pay for their housing?

It just seems counterintuitive to bring loads of people into this country who will need considerable financial support ( housing benefits, pension credits) when they are no longer able to work, and don’t have the means to support themselves.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-sharia-law-job-fact-32159145.amp

I’m not lazy or scared so I looked it up and you are spreading misinformation.

It’s not being advertised BY the government. It’s a job that was advertised on a government-run jobs website that loads of employers can post on. It’s not a job working for the government or for the English courts. The actual employer would be Manchester Community Centre, which is past of Didsbury Mosque.

The mosque offers religious guidance and arbitration services and the role is in connection with that. There’s no parallel legal system - it’s like Christian churches offering religious counselling services or synagogues offering help to comply with Jewish law.

And I really don’t think it should surprise anyone that a mosque has an administrator to help its attendees access the right services?!

As a fellow bloody immigrant I have a fantasy that we all down tools at once for a week and see how people enjoy life without our labour.

Currently only 22% of children in school are white British

Oh stop peddling Reform lies. 60.4% of the school population is currently white British.

https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/school-pupils-and-their-characteristics/2024-25

The Government is recruiting for Sharia Law staff

No it isn't. A job was advertised on the national government website which hosts adverts for jobs. The job was nothing to do with the government.

pa.media/blogs/fact-check/fact-check-sharia-law-administrator-job-ad-was-for-role-with-private-employer/

I don't welcome the introduction of Sharia law

It isn't being introduced.

I despair. Reformites don't like being called stupid. Then they spread stupid lies and make themselves look stupid.

It's not as simple as that.

You don't mention the cultural change which is happening. You miss out state schools breaking for Eid, you miss out the ghettoization of parts of our cities, you miss out Sharia law.

You don't mention that immigrants pay far less tax than the government services they receive making us poorer and reducing money per head for the NHS and schools.

You don't mention the additional crime, you don't mention immigrants different values (particularly different views on the role of women).

The costs of running the current system of low-paid immigrant care work are loaded onto future generations. It’s not unreasonable to see that as bad both for underpaid care workers and for taxpayers. The fact you or a family member might personally benefit doesn’t change that.

(My problem with the system doesn’t rest with the national origin of the care workers, but it’s perverse to try to relieve mainly-publicly-funded care budgets by acquiring obligations to a large new set of people who on the government’s own figures won’t come close to covering the costs of the services they consume over their time in the UK. That makes the fiscal problem worse and punts it to the next generation).

So your response is to use national statistics covering rurals Wales and Scotland and ignore the points made about demographic change in large cities and then call me a liar???

Again 22% of school age children in London are white British, and it is less than 40% in Birmingham and Manchester.

Again this level of demographic change is historically unprecedented.

I'm totally fine with schools celebrating Eid, Diwali and Xmas. What's wrong with children understanding and appreciating different traditions? They put pictures up on walls and listen to different stories. I'm happy my child has friends with different skin tones, religions, and primary languages. It makes the world a richer, more interesting place. I don't understand why you think this is threatening unless you are advocating Great Replacement Theory (which is racist bull-t).

And why did we need to bring in care workers hmmm?

I think the level and type of immigration we have now is a massive issue.

My parents immigrated here in the early 1960s as part of a (by today’s standards) tiny wave of Jewish immigrants. They were desperate to fit in and integrate into British culture and were always net tax payers and took little from the state.

Today we have 1% added to the population each year. That is massive! It has huge implications economically, culturally and politically.

It is a massive chicken and egg argument about not being able to fill care home and agriculture vacancies with domestic staff. They would get filled without immigration, just at higher wages.

The upside to less low skilled immigration is higher wages for these important jobs. The downside is more inflation and a less wealthy nation.

Culture also has value outside of economics. Again, immigrants add a lot to our culture. A lot of the music and food we love wouldn’t exist without immigrant influences. But, again, it is important to preserve what makes us uniquely British and, in many high immigration areas, this is being lost.

It is a really complex issue but I think 1% per annum is way too much, and much of them have little respect for existing British culture.

It is certainly neither racist nor bigoted to discuss this and it is important that we do.

Care homes are overwhelmingly run by PE groups and don't believe anyone who tells you there isn't profit made in that sector, my god there is. Those PE houses like to have staff they can treat like shit - zero hours contracts, ever changing shifts, not committing to rotas and expecting staff to take shifts at no notice. This enables them to maximise profit.

If we couldn't bring in foreign care workers those care homes would be forced to offer working conditions that british born workers expect and that is not a bad thing.

The voting certainly differs from the responses.
OP yes the endless migration model is a total ponzi scheme, designed to keep wages low and enrich the few. I find it bizarre that being pro is now the default left wing position.

Good news Labour have bought it down from the 1m per year under Sunak then....

Our birthdate is currently about 1.5 so although there will be nuances year to year I’d be surprised if increases in population in any year was mainly due to births. Where did you read this?

I’m not anti-imigration btw.

But there British partner can claim, any child born to them can be added to a claim. So yes they personally cannot claim but everyone else in their household can.

So am I. My son (we aren’t Muslim) celebrated Eid at school with his classmates and it was a lovely experience all round.

I haven’t heard of any state schools breaking for Eid but I’m not sure it’s that big of a deal if they did - it’s just a day?!

Oh and I would far, far rather have highly skilled black or other ethnic minority migrants of different cultures & religions, than reams of white low skilled migrants with similar cultural backgrounds to the UK. I worry that a lot of lower skilled migrants are encouraged to come here thinking the pay looks good and then arrive, can't afford rent and end up accepting crap housing as its all they can afford.

Wow!

You said: Currently only 22% of children in school are white British

You did not specify that you were talking about London.

So it was a lie along with the other lies in that post.

I can't be bothered with you people any longer. Carry on seething and spreading hate and lies if you wish. I almost feel sorry for you. Almost.

You must be very busy monitoring all the immigrants, finding out how old they are and what jobs they’re doing, not to mention talking to all the British people looking for work who refuse to work in care homes. Do you work yourself? You must be exhausted!

I’m sure all the ones coming over on boats are doctors, lawyers etc. Unfortunately we don’t get to pick who comes over when they cross illegally and this is the problem.

Not only is it low paid, it's challenging and requires skills and attributes that are relatively rare. I certainly couldn't do a job that involves cleaning up shit, piss and puke, for people who are confused and often get aggressive.

At the care home where my friend works, they have residents that punch, bite, scratch and spit at staff. Many of them have to have a minimum of two staff with them at all times. One resident is now deemed very high risk, after they smashed a cup into the face of one of the domestic staff.

It's an utter scandal that workers in residential care are so badly paid, given the level of responsibility they have and what they have to put up with.

You’d expect the number of international students to be broadly net zero…. Yes, a lot come in to start their studies, but a similar number leave who have finished their studies.

The 700,000 figure is NET migration into the UK. Looking at the figures, it’s roughly 1.1m in, 400k out. International students are a red herring.

As pp have said people coming to the UK may be students whose fees prop up universities and workers. Who work. Therefore pay taxes. Therefore doing lots of useful things at the same time, filling vacant posts, contributing to the Treasury and propping up universities who otherwise would struggle financially. The, oh, English people should fill job vacancies only works if people have the skills and qualifications to do those jobs. If they don't then there's a gap.

See the problem there is that your mom didn't stay a low skill worker. By improving herself she created a vacancy and then another low skill worker had to be imported to replace her. Tsk Tsk #Irony.

If only old people died a lot younger, like they used to. And if only they shared small homes rather than take up big empty homes. And if only young people working in retail and hospitality (I have 2 such DC) didn't improve themselves and go on to get Uni degrees or move into management creating more vacancies in catering and retail. There's the problem, go back to job for life on the factory floor. Get rid of the Dole for everyone while you're at it.

Intriguing how OP only bothered to post for an hour in middle of the night (had to go rabble rouse on another social media site after that?) then thread digressed from immigration to how one advert in Manchester for Shariah-related-job means all women in UK will have Taliban-style lifestyles soon.

This issue, like the trans issue, has a class divide. The privileged who are well protected from the negatives of such high immigration, will always refuse to acknowledge how other people's lives are being made a misery by it.

Personally, I really miss the high trust society I used to enjoy. I daren't even go to the local lake to sit & read my book anymore. The wandering foreign males from a nearby hotel are an absolute nuisance there & won't leave lone women alone. Our local leaders refuse to accept there's a problem, because they don't experience it at the golf course or centre parks. Let them eat cake attitude is still alive & well in 2025