To think the Lionesses' Outfits in this Picture are Ridiculous?

[BasilParsley]

OK, so they go to Downing Street to celebrate their win with the high and mighty of the land ... But who the f**k thought that combination of baggy trousers, grey, black, long shorts, low heeled shoes, a bit of white here and there was The Look?

Are they trying make them look like men because women's football shouldn't be allowed? Did any of them have the opportunity to say "actually, those big, baggy trousers don't suit me"? Because they don't for a lot of them...

Gwyneth Paltrow wore a much criticised outfit to the Oscars in 1999.

Part of the criticism was due to the frothy pink colour and 1950’s era cut, not the fashionable thing back then.

But a lot of the criticism was because the dress didn’t fit - it was too big. Gwyneth looked like a kid raiding her mother’s wardrobe for dressing up.

Princess Charlotte wore a bridesmaid’s dress to the wedding of Meghan & Harry that didn’t fit and had an obviously uneven hem. She looked lumpy and tied in the middle.

Neither are those criticisms of the humans beneath the fabric.

The poor fit and finish of the garments made the wearer look a funny shape, far removed from the shape they actually are.

I stand by my comment on the outfits imposed on the Lionesses. These are professional athletes who will have well-defined muscles, they are unlikely to be carrying much fat.

For their outfits to give the impression they are short and stout (even the tall members!) indicates just HOW BAD THOSE OUTFITS ARE!

Look at photos of the women when they’re in their own clothes. They each have very different styles, they each wear them well. And they choose things that fit and flatter their style, things which look a world away from the unholy mess that M&S have pushed them into wearing.

FGS. Why do we always have to focus on what women are wearing (and what size they look)? It's totally unnecessary.

They look short ? Really? You are a poor judge of height then if you rely on tighter clothes to work it out

They are horrible clothes.

For the posters jumping on OP do you genuinely believe what you're saying?

The outfit is ghastly. It looks like cheap polyester, it doesn't fit properly anywhere, the colour is dire.

It' s quite possible to be sporty, role models and champs and look decent too.

Most of those women are very 'into' their appearances as you can tell by their coloured hair, nails, tatts, make up etc.

The look like something provided by the CCP- just dreadful.

No one mentioned tighter. Tailored, yes, tighter, no.

If you don’t know the difference I can see why you don’t understand the criticism.

There is always loads of commentary around the outfits designed as the uniforms for the Olympic teams, men and women.

Which doesn’t detract from any celebrations over medals.

This thread was started as a comment on the Team Uniform, as chosen for them , not a slight on the women themselves, or comment on their looks.

Maybe because they are representing England?
The fact they are being put into a uniform shows it's relevant.

Again - you can be brilliant in anything but that doesn't mean you don't give a shit about how you look. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Exactly.

We are invited by M&S to admire the appearance of those women. That is what the contract for money with the team is all about.
M&S pay the team or the FA or whoever for the women to publicise the clothes.
The ladies wear the clothes they are photographed. We admire 'the look'. We buy those clothes so we look like the team.
Don't we. . . ?

I think the trousers and waistcoat combo looks good, less keen on the shorts but ultimately not something I would ever have thought to comment on before this thread. They are sports women not fashion models, they just won the Euros - again. Lets just be proud of them.

So you are worried about their looks.

Where's the pic?

Precisely this. All national ( and club) football teams have a “uniform”, in the UK the men all look like Gareth!

I thought those wide leg trousers were a good choice for a team of female athletes who have generous thighs and calves, anything more fitted would have a) made them look as thought they were copying the mens teams and b) looked a bit odd on women of very diverse heights and builds.

And who cares, they are the best role models for young women to have emerged since the Spice Girls ( and we all know what sort of role models they turned out to be) . It was great to see the fans at Southend Airport, so may young girls thrilled to see their icons, and looks as though the parade today will be the same.

You don’t get it do you. I wonder what they’d say if you made these comments to them personally.

Are you finding it hard to understand?
The comments are not about their faces, their hair, their nails, or their figures.
They are about the quality, colour and style of a suit provided by M&S as promotion for M&S.
That's what sponsorship IS.

The victory parade is at 12.10 today. I’m sure we’ll all eagerly return to this thread to hear OP and friends’ Perfectly Valid Fashion Critique of what the team are wearing then.

You might want to look again at some of the comments made.

@Mistyglade I think it's you who's hard of understanding the point.

Nope. No time.
I'm focusing on the suits.

Personally I’m disappointed that they play in such masculine kits, a lot could be done for women and girls in sport if they just looked a little more feminine. Perhaps short dresses like the tennis players wear so we can see their underwear when they jump or stretch.
much more pleasing to the eye.

How rude and mean. Do you really think these wonderful young women care what someone like you thinks?

I thought they looked great! I liked how there was clearly a theme but it allowed for some individuality.
It's disappointing to see a thread like this though.

But I never said the lionesses were too busy to choose their outfits - I was referring to your comment with ‘input’ in inverted commas and saying that you couldn’t see the women on the team choosing their designs. I was suggesting that their focus was probably on their actual jobs rather than a victory celebration that was never a certainty.

Their looks are certainly more fashion forward than the standard menswear options for sports teams in similar situations (although that probably speaks more to the boringness of men’s fashion and ideas of masculinity etc which take us right back to tedious gender norms).

Although interested to see your justification for the biscuit eaters comment. What was it about if it wasn’t about the old chestnut of ‘flattering/tailored’ blah blah ultimately meaning thin.

Yes. That’s their looks.

Their attire is part of their looks.

Who cares what a bunch of athletes look like?

All of these ‘they’re athletes, not fashion models’ comments are just a way of saying ‘no one expects them to dress well, it’s beyond their capability’.

Pretty insulting way to view the team, tbh.