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To not want to look after my daughter any more

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Goaheadflameme · 27/07/2025 17:58

My daughter is 8. She is recently diagnosed with autism. No problems at school but a nightmare at home.

Predictably, being out of the school routine has made her challenging behaviour more challenging. She regularly tells me she hates me, wishes I was dead, that things would be better without me. Everytime
I say something she mocks me. She won’t do anything she is told and consequences are meaningless as she just doesn’t care. Today she has also thrown food round the living room and when I tried to stop this she has violently attacked me multiple times. Previously she has broken my finger and scratched me to the extent that I was hospitalised due to a serious infection in my arm.

I just honestly can’t do it any more. This has been going on for more than two years now. It’s completely ruining me, my relationship with my husband and our family life (we have other children). The violence triggers me so badly due to childhood abuse and I don’t feel safe in my own home.

Do social services take children away in these circumstances?

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x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:08

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:05

Does seem strange. If your children were at risk of violence from a partner of yours everyone would be saying to boot him out. Yet it seems acceptable for kids to be at risk from a violent sibling and have to put up with it

There's a huge difference between a 8 year old child and an adult

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:10

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:02

And what when it's a single parent with a violent child and siblings. I should imagine dealing with all that increases the risk of parents relationship breaking down

That's a different situation. But social services would still expect the parent to look within their family network to care/provide respite if the other parent can't.

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:12

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:05

Does seem strange. If your children were at risk of violence from a partner of yours everyone would be saying to boot him out. Yet it seems acceptable for kids to be at risk from a violent sibling and have to put up with it

Children have the right to be cared for until they reach adulthood and do not have responsibility for their own choices and actions the way an adult does. You can't compare an abusive adult with a disabled 8 year old!

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:12

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:08

There's a huge difference between a 8 year old child and an adult

The 8 year old will grow though. 6 years later to be a violent 6 ft 14 year old. Still a child.

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:13

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:12

Children have the right to be cared for until they reach adulthood and do not have responsibility for their own choices and actions the way an adult does. You can't compare an abusive adult with a disabled 8 year old!

Don't the siblings have the right to be safe and cared for also

EviesHat · 28/07/2025 11:13

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:08

There's a huge difference between a 8 year old child and an adult

8 year olds grow up.

After a few years they’re 12, then 15, then 17. They’re still a child, even at 17.

Teenagers can be the size of adults. They can also be stronger than their mothers.

Still think it’s acceptable for a 5’2” woman to be hit, bitten and stabbed by a 5’9” teenager?

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:16

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:12

The 8 year old will grow though. 6 years later to be a violent 6 ft 14 year old. Still a child.

Well you don't know that ,my severely autistic 15, year old is a lot less aggressive than when he was younger ,he still very challenging but he's more manageable now in some ways
But regardless of thst right now the child is 8 not 14.

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:18

EviesHat · 28/07/2025 11:13

8 year olds grow up.

After a few years they’re 12, then 15, then 17. They’re still a child, even at 17.

Teenagers can be the size of adults. They can also be stronger than their mothers.

Still think it’s acceptable for a 5’2” woman to be hit, bitten and stabbed by a 5’9” teenager?

You have no idea wether this child's behaviour will remain the same or get worse or better but she's 8 now not 12,15 or 17 .

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:24

The child's behaviour is likely to get worse if she's removed from her family and grows up in care, we can say that fairly confidently.

DoFunk · 28/07/2025 11:26

In these scenarios what happens legally and practically if both parents physically fights back and restrain the child?

What happens if the parent(s) loose it and retaliate with equal force?

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:29

DoFunk · 28/07/2025 11:26

In these scenarios what happens legally and practically if both parents physically fights back and restrain the child?

What happens if the parent(s) loose it and retaliate with equal force?

I imagine they would be prosecuted for assaulting a child
The fact is most parents don't do that because they love their child .

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:29

DoFunk · 28/07/2025 11:26

In these scenarios what happens legally and practically if both parents physically fights back and restrain the child?

What happens if the parent(s) loose it and retaliate with equal force?

They will probably be arrested obviously. It's not ok to 'retaliate with equal force' to a child.

Hibernatingtilspring · 28/07/2025 11:30

For the posters on here with their own agenda, do you really think it's helpful for the OP, who is clearly in crisis with their child and asking for help, to talk about autistic children in those terms?
Not all autistic children grow up to bite and stab people FFS! Stop demonising the kid. You can acknowledge the OPs difficulties without doing so. Many parents are frustrated with their own children but still feel very upset at other people criticizing their child.

PoxyAndIKnowIt · 28/07/2025 11:31

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 10:49

Fuck me. This is a neurodivergent child not a violent abuser.
And yes, the responsibility of raising the children falls with the parents. If they have to do that across two households then that's what they have to do. It's hardly an outlandish idea.

OMG NO!! Splitting up a family because of a disturbed ND child is a terrible idea.

The only way we could deal with our autistic child whose worst times were 11-13, then later 18-19 (when she stopped her meds), was because we were together. DH and I were a strong and united front, protecting our younger child and using our different strategies and strengths to deal with, placate and care for our autistic DD.
How would it help younger DD to leave the family home and lose a loved and loving parent? Or alternatively have her sister and one of her parents leave home? Or, as per a PP, risk being plunged into poverty as one household has to become two?

The effect on the autistic child themselves would be significant and VERY negative.

And as for the marriage? Possible death warrant.

No one would gain from this.
Families should be supported not forced to break up.

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:34

PoxyAndIKnowIt · 28/07/2025 11:31

OMG NO!! Splitting up a family because of a disturbed ND child is a terrible idea.

The only way we could deal with our autistic child whose worst times were 11-13, then later 18-19 (when she stopped her meds), was because we were together. DH and I were a strong and united front, protecting our younger child and using our different strategies and strengths to deal with, placate and care for our autistic DD.
How would it help younger DD to leave the family home and lose a loved and loving parent? Or alternatively have her sister and one of her parents leave home? Or, as per a PP, risk being plunged into poverty as one household has to become two?

The effect on the autistic child themselves would be significant and VERY negative.

And as for the marriage? Possible death warrant.

No one would gain from this.
Families should be supported not forced to break up.

Of course it should be a last resort! But the suggestion was when a PP asked what the parents are supposed to do if one child is being aggressive to others and they can't protect the other kids. It's better for the parents to live separately than for one child to go into care!

MooDengOfThailand · 28/07/2025 11:38

LaLaLandDreams · 27/07/2025 18:47

I would probably start packing her bags up and tell her she will be moving out if she hates you all so much.

You have my sympathy because I would not let a child ruin everyone’s life.

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Agreed.

DemBonesDemBones · 28/07/2025 11:39

@BabyCatFace but HOW?!

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:40

DemBonesDemBones · 28/07/2025 11:39

@BabyCatFace but HOW?!

How what?
How do parents separate and run separate households? They just do, parents do it all the time. I don't understand your question.

PoxyAndIKnowIt · 28/07/2025 11:40

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:34

Of course it should be a last resort! But the suggestion was when a PP asked what the parents are supposed to do if one child is being aggressive to others and they can't protect the other kids. It's better for the parents to live separately than for one child to go into care!

What is your experience of this? How are you coming to this conclusion?
I've explained my position above and have lived through the exact scenario. You're not explaining your position at all.

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:41

MooDengOfThailand · 28/07/2025 11:38

Agreed.

You would seriously throw an 8 year old out on the streets ??
Please tell me you don't actually have children?

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:42

PoxyAndIKnowIt · 28/07/2025 11:40

What is your experience of this? How are you coming to this conclusion?
I've explained my position above and have lived through the exact scenario. You're not explaining your position at all.

Professional experience. I'm not sure what you aren't getting about my point here. Rather than take a child into care, the parents need to care for them. If they can't do that safely in one household, they need to create two households. What is not computing here?

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:44

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:41

You would seriously throw an 8 year old out on the streets ??
Please tell me you don't actually have children?

The 8 year old wouldn't get very far before the police came knocking if they tried that

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:44

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:42

Professional experience. I'm not sure what you aren't getting about my point here. Rather than take a child into care, the parents need to care for them. If they can't do that safely in one household, they need to create two households. What is not computing here?

Money
It's expensive to run two households lots of families just can't afford it
So in reality we just muddle along as best we can.

PoxyAndIKnowIt · 28/07/2025 11:46

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:42

Professional experience. I'm not sure what you aren't getting about my point here. Rather than take a child into care, the parents need to care for them. If they can't do that safely in one household, they need to create two households. What is not computing here?

Youre not explaining how it's better, just making sweeping pronouncements without backing them up.
"It's better for the parents to live separately"

Better for whom and how?

And why do you think families should not be helped by SS, NHS or other authorities rather than be forced to split up?

DemBonesDemBones · 28/07/2025 11:46

@BabyCatFacehow the hell would parents afford this?! We are behind on our mortgage on one house! When a child has this level of needs one parent can’t work. They still wouldn’t be able to work if they had 2 houses to run.