To think The West is morally bankrupt

[Elrae]

America democratically elects an adjudicate rapist who sympathises with racists, hates women and will do anything to hang onto power. The UK and it's lickspitrlw leader fawn over Trump and says that Israel has rhe right to cut off food and water to Gaza. Then wairs a year watching children die before saying it is intolerable. Except he is tolerating it.We all are.
The West is pumping out carbon at a vast rate and will no doubt reject the flood of refugees that this will cause.
The West takes more than it's fair share of the world's wealth. Much of the West is based on colonial exploration and murder of the global south.
I used to think we were the good guys.
We are not. We are one of the worst things ever to happen to the planet and it's inhabitants.

Ha! You think one comment means I relentlessly push an agenda? Just more ridiculous dramatics.
I just think rather than constant self flagulation for crimes some men committed in the past, or to shoulder blame for how Americans vote, we need to show a little more gratitude for how lucky we are to live in a country where women are free and equal, where we have free speech (mostly), inclusion and tollerance, where we have free health care and education, clean water etc. Instead all I see is spoilt brats with their iphones and new build houses, whining about how bad white people/the west/Europe etc is whilst enjoying the freedoms it gives them.

Put your money where your mouth is, if it's so terrible, move.

You can’t “just move”. You have to meet entry criteria. Have certain skills or qualifications. Be a certain age. Have family links, and a certain amount of money in the bank. Have a job offer.

Margaret Thatcher was a woman. Imelda Marcos was a woman. I think it’s time people stopped pretending women in power would automatically be hugely different from, or better than, men in power. It takes a certain personality-type to be attracted to positions of power, after all.

Alternatively, it’s this sort of lazy generalization of those that seek to come here that means we can’t have a reasonable conversation about the topic.

Blimey, you don’t understand much do you? I would love to move and am trying very hard to do so, but it’s nowhere near the simple process you insist it is.

No you don't need all these things all the time. People manage to move countries. They look at ways to emigrate, with what they already have or work to achieve what they need. Its not some impossible dream. There are a lot of countries outside the evil West.

had a look at what’s going on in Asia recently? Middle East? It’s not just the west

Yes, that is very much my contention. We have evolved to be better at different things. Men also make better front line soldiers. Women are better at nurturing, men are more inventive (and before the hard of thinking say anything I know there are exceptions, I'm talking generalisations). It is well known that the normal distribution for intelligence is such that there are more male geniuses, but also more men with very low intelligence. Get over it.

No, because other countries have restrictions on the boarders too, just like the evil West, weird huh? But to move to the UAE for example, you just need a job, so get applying!

Where to?

Yep and those in line with op are part of the issue. Undervaluing what we have until it’ll be gone anyway.

It’s a luxury to post as op does, we might not always have it.

Apologies, I haven’t done a full scale analysis of the immigration policy for every single country. I appreciate that’s clearly unreasonable on my part!

You are completely incorrect. You don’t “just need a job” to move to the UAE.

Yes I agree @EasternStandard . We have reached the stage of late capitalism or whatever you want to call it that people are so entitled and spolit they think things will always be the same. Also so naive that they think the rest of the world thinks like them and just let our enemies walk all over us. Meanwhile Islam or China are ready to take over.

Are we lucky OP that we can live in a place where we are completely free to loudly and publicly slag off are own government and country.

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Well I've never looked to move there, so maybe that's so, but many countries in the east are far easier than others, and UAE is ranked as an easier place to move to, especially for Brits. I see plenty of people moving from East to West, maybe westerners are just too lazy to put the work in to get a visa and move?

No you don't.
Just rock up in a small boat and claim asylum. Tell them you're escaping the evil West and I'm sure they sympathise.

Yes there are those who are happy to take up a new position. Given the weapons amassed by one in particular we’ll have to hope they are relatively benign and won’t use similar systems to control what is said.

The anti west sentiment whilst enjoying those freedoms is the ultimate luxury, that may not last. People shouldn’t undervalue it.

No “maybe” about it. There are several other non-negotiable stipulations. If you can’t meet certain criteria, no amount of hard work will change that.

First, define what you mean by "morally bankrupt".
Second what is the "West" doing that in previous ages has not been done by other dominant groups of nations/empires?
YABU and you need to read more history IMO.

Agree totally.

North Macedonia is very nice to money launderers.

If you're going to assign moral values to countries (and I'm not sure how useful that is) all countries are compromised, all leaders are compromised. A country that is only and has only been ever kind and charitable will not thrive. No one wants to live like the child who has his lunch money stolen every day.

You are embarrassing yourself.

Like? Its not the only place in the East though either way, seems Westeners just need to put more work in if they really want to move out of the evil West.