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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

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grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
Picklelily99 · 26/07/2025 17:36

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

I can't believe your kids sponge off mum & dad quite so much! Isn't it about time they funded their own lifestyles, or cut their cloth accordingly?

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:36

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 17:28

I am struggling to fully accept what I am reading her.
"He is failing to take care of her"
She has two kids in private school, a housekeeper, a car, holidays. She just has to work part time, that's all.

I am off to tell my husband that he is failing to take care of me because I have to go to work.

He will laugh at this, as would anyone in the UK in this century.

Not all British families want to have a woman who works - some expect to stay home and raise their babies while their husband works

It may not be for everyone but its certainly not laughable

This woman is clear on what she wants, her man is being weird while he gets handouts from his parents and badmouths his wife to them

She deserves better

BIossomtoes · 26/07/2025 17:38

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:35

Whats best for their family is a wife who is happy and healthy - shes not happy working and wants to be home with her children, I completely understand it

Yes, shes not perfect but the man is not strong enough tbh, constantly relying on his parents for handouts but forcing his wife to work

How is he forcing her to work? They can clearly afford for her not to. If she handed in her notice what could he do about it?

Namechangerage · 26/07/2025 17:38

OP, I think any money you give should be given to your child only and they decide (with their partner) what to do.

So the conversation with her asking for you to pay her salary should have been - “I give money to DS, he tells me what’s needed. You two need to talk about this.”

Firmly put it back to them as a couple. Any other option and you seem too involved.

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 26/07/2025 17:38

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:17

She is being forced to work part time while her sil gets to stay at home

Her man knows what she wants and is being weird by forcing her to work

If I were her, I'd just quit my job, sack the childcare and tell my husband to deal with it. He'll run to mummy but will be back eventually

Well, if she wants a fast-track route to divorce…

MayMumm · 26/07/2025 17:39

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:03

@SoScarletItWasi can’t tell you for sure how much childcare he does but she does a sport one evening a week, when he looks after all 3 kids, from what they both say does regular dinners / lunches with friends when he’s with the children, and I know he does regular drop offs and pickups for the kids. I would say he is quite an involved dad, but of course I cannot tell you for sure as I don’t live with them. I’d say it’s 50/50 on when we visit - sometimes she’s busy with her friends or sport, and sometimes she’s home. It’s certainly not like he comes to see us every time he’s left alone with the children because we also travel or have other plans.

@Hankunamatataour son said he disagrees with her being a SAHM to us and to her in front of her, he’s also private said to us (which we didn’t mention) that it’s been discussed many times with just 2 of them and he doesn’t want that. It’s not a secret.

One evening a week does not seem 50/50!

Onlyontuesday · 26/07/2025 17:45

I honestly think seeing grandchildren for a few hours every week is a fair bit of contact, and it's OK for DIL to want to set boundaries. How much more would you need?

DIL doesn't sound like she has a fab personality, but your disney idea and thread title has shown your true colours. At least on some level you feel the money entitles you to a position in their lives and contact on your terms.

DIL isn't playing ball so you think of a way to exclude her, this is controlling behaviour.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 26/07/2025 17:46

Hi OP

Do you give your daughter and your son the same level of financial support? There are often threads on here from women who feel their husband is unfairly treated compared to their sister in law, just because of their respective sexes. If you're giving one family enough for one of them to stay at home but giving another family less, then I can see why she might feel upset on behalf of her husband.

I'd make sure whatever I gave to each child was equal. Then you go back with "I give each family thr same, it's up to each of my children and their family units, what they do with that money". It's then up to your son if he wants to use it for something else, pension, dropping his own hours etc.

LovingLimePeer · 26/07/2025 17:48

Trying to see it from DIL's point for view. Perhaps parents in law shouldn't have input into what the money is spent on and should just deposit it into the son's bank account if they're generous enough to give the money. For them to retain control over gifted money and its use means it could be seen as a lever to control the OP's son's family.

When DIL asked you about money to become a sahm, in my view the only response is that your son and your DIL should choose where the money you give goes and their working pattern is a choice for them alone. Any other response is inserting yourself into the relationship inappropriately and I can see how she could have become cold if she felt that you were doing this and in her view colluding with her husband to deprive her of the ability to stay at home.

She shouldn't have said what she said within earshot. The idea of spending a few hours per week with my own MIL is awful, not because I don't like her -she's great - but because seeing family members that often is not part of my blueprint. We never saw grandparents that much growing up. I work full time and I get very limited time to spend as a family or with friends. 'Just a few hours a week' can be a huge ask for some people.

And your Disneyland plan is cold and would forever damage your relationship with your DIL so probably not a wise plan.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 26/07/2025 17:49

Very often hardworking parents raise very entitled DC, who have no drive.

MrsSunshine2b · 26/07/2025 17:50

Your son sounds very controlling. It's not up to her to decide how she should manage her mental health and tell her she must work for her own good, she's not a child. Shame on you for making the situation worse.

WonderingWanda · 26/07/2025 17:52

I'm not quite sure what to make of this.

Firstly, I wouldn't dream of approaching my inlaws and expecting them to give me money, that would be dh's job. So she does sound quite entitled and rude.

However, I can also see a massive issue in that your ds says he doesn't want her being a sahm because of her mental health...so he appears to have put his foot down, that's fairly unsupportive. Surely with the right mental health support she could be a sahm? You also sound a little judgemental of her preference there...as though its fine for your dd because she's a nice wholesome sahm but your dil just wants to swan about having and easy life.

Anyway, the whole sahm issue is between them but itseems you have been inadvertently been made the 'fall guy' to be blamed for this even though it really nothing to do with you.

Truetoself · 26/07/2025 17:53

I can’t believe your DIL had the balls ro ask you if you would financially support her to be a SAHM.

To be honest if you are able to support your daughter to stay at home , surely you can also support her to keep her career going in some way? Or are you leaving enough in inheritance that she doesn’t need a career?

saraclara · 26/07/2025 17:55

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:35

Whats best for their family is a wife who is happy and healthy - shes not happy working and wants to be home with her children, I completely understand it

Yes, shes not perfect but the man is not strong enough tbh, constantly relying on his parents for handouts but forcing his wife to work

I'm busy imagining a man going to his in-laws to demand funding so that he doesn't have to go to work, and will then be happier.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:57

saraclara · 26/07/2025 17:55

I'm busy imagining a man going to his in-laws to demand funding so that he doesn't have to go to work, and will then be happier.

If thats the way things are done in their part of the world, it wouldn't sound so bad

Fridgetapas · 26/07/2025 17:58

I was kind of on your side until you said you’d take them all to Disney land apart from her and she’d have to pay for herself if she wants to ‘come along’. I mean if you think that’s in any way acceptable I wonder if there’s been other similar situations in which you’ve massively overstepped.

Fridgetapas · 26/07/2025 17:58

MrsSunshine2b · 26/07/2025 17:50

Your son sounds very controlling. It's not up to her to decide how she should manage her mental health and tell her she must work for her own good, she's not a child. Shame on you for making the situation worse.

This too. And shame on him for gossiping about his wife like that to his mother.

WhereYouLeftIt · 26/07/2025 17:59

OP, I think you need to have a ponder about the effects of your generosity.

One effect is that your son/DIL and daughter/SIL don't have to worry about making ends meet - a stressful situation that can strain any marriage.

A second effect is that people 'cut their coat according to their cloth' - effectively, your children are living beyond their means, because you supply additional means over and above their earned income. This has three possible downsides:

  1. It infantilises them, never having to be fully adult because their parents are still supplying material goods (or cold hard cash in your case).
  2. If the money were ever to be cut off, it leaves them high and dry - never having had to live within their earned means, they would struggle. They'd feel unable to economise on their current lifestyle and probably get into debt. (It doesn't matter that you have no intention of cutting them off: shit happens, stock markets crash, you or DH might need very expensive care in the future etc.)
  3. It can curtail their ambition and drive, and affect the life choices they make. Would your son have made different career choices had he known his salary would be their sole source of income? Would they have put the children in private school? Does being awash with funds make them a little - lazy?

The third effect is, in my opinion, the one that you are currently experiencing - gratitude can easily evolve into entitlement. Your daughter-in-law does not look at what you provide to her and her husband and feel grateful. No, she looks instead at what you provide to your daughter and feels disgruntled.

Whilst having the stress of finances removed is a wonderful plus, I personally feel the minuses of your generosity have so far gone unnoticed by yourself - until your daughter-in-law's reaction drew them to your attention. And it's these minuses I think you should ponder on awhile.

TL;DR - Is your financial generosity helping your children, or hindering?

Edited to say - as for your Disney plan, it's a very bad idea and shows you in a very bad light (petty and spiteful). Give your head a wobble on that one, and never mention it to anyone in real life.

Richiewoo · 26/07/2025 17:59

Youre very generous. She's as cheeky as they come.

Cynic17 · 26/07/2025 18:01

Personally, OP, I think you've been extremely foolish to give so much money to both of your adult children. If you gave them a good upbringing and education, they should absolutely be standing on their own feet financially. But you have created the expectation that the Bank of Mum and Dad will always be open for business. You also think you have a right to be involved in their lives, and to influence how they live them. Everything about this set up just shouts "trouble". So I hope you can back off and let them all get on with their lives.

HoskinsChoice · 26/07/2025 18:01

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:33

Sit on her arse? Raising three kids?!

Well two of them are school age and mummy & daddy are funding nursery and god knows what else so, yes, sitting on her arse! Even without the help, there's plenty of people with kids who work full time.

tinyspiny · 26/07/2025 18:02

You have an unhealthy level of financial input and control of your adult children’s lives . I’m amazed that your children’s partners are prepared to accept such an input as most normal people would not want to be in that position .

its5oclocksomewheresurely · 26/07/2025 18:02

Wow, you sound super generous. You've already paid for :

Deposit for their house
Nursery fees
Car
Holidays
Private school

That is an immense amount of help, that most people could only dream of.

For context, my DH's father is a multi millionaire, and he has given us the princely sum of zero pence. What's more, his daughter is on the breadline with little kids. She lives in an ex council property, in an unsafe area, has considerable debt, no savings, a crappy car that keeps breaking down - he never offers any financial assistance. He does, however, enjoy several long haul holidays every year, always in business class. You get the picture.

I think you've done MORE than enough.

However :
It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs

This ^^ is a terrible idea. It would cause far too much division.

I wonder whether it might be a better idea, to just give your son and daughter the exact same amount each month, and let them use the money as they see fit. That way, you're not enabling your DD to be a SAHM, whilst denying your DIL the same. Both families get (say) £2k support a month, and how they use that is up to them. Then no blame comes your way for anything. It's how I would do it.

On another note, if you see them for a few hours every week, I am assuming that falls on a weekend day? That probably writes off half a day every weekend, and I do think that's majorly excessive.

5128gap · 26/07/2025 18:03

I think the way youve chosen to go about financially subsiding your children has created an odd dynamic. Because you hold the purse strings, and dole out money for specifics, you have huge power over their lives, and through your money, your children have disproportionate power in their own relationships.
There's something really not quite right about an argument about whether your DiL gets to be a SAHM involving you at all, but because you get to pick and choose who you enable to do this, it has, and your DiL is probably feeling outnumbered, and is fighting back with the only power she does have, her children. She is of course behaving badly, but she must feel pretty powerless with her husbands family all weighing in.
If I were you, I'd think hard about whether this sort of support is best for everyone. A lump sum to each DC to decide with their partners how to use it might be best for their marriages.

MissJeanBrodiesmother · 26/07/2025 18:04

Your idea about Disney land is utterly awful. You seem to think that the money entitles you to certain things. She may well be awful but trying to control her with money is horrible.