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AIBU?

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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

475 replies

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
Robin67 · 26/07/2025 17:22

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:17

She is being forced to work part time while her sil gets to stay at home

Her man knows what she wants and is being weird by forcing her to work

If I were her, I'd just quit my job, sack the childcare and tell my husband to deal with it. He'll run to mummy but will be back eventually

I think a lot of men would then divorce you.

Life would get a lot trickier financially then. Especially as she can't claim 50% of her mil contributions. Otherwise mil can stop and just pay school directly. Also, mil can have unobstructed access to the children on her sons days

This is not a bad idea. Perhaps you should suggest it to dil

Namechangerage · 26/07/2025 17:23

I am totally with you OP but I think the Disney idea would be unwise. Either offer to take them all from the get go (and hope she doesn’t say yes) or not at all. The best thing to do is to try and build bridges despite your DIL acting like a brat.

nomas · 26/07/2025 17:25

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 17:14

Thank you for clarifying it doesn't apply to me. You could not be more right

Given OP is financially well off, she likely has a financial advisor.

And as her grandkids are young, I doubt she’s going to pop her clogs in the next 7 years.

diddl · 26/07/2025 17:26

The daughter has presumably has a relationship where they have agreed that one person will be at home.

Good thing Op pays then otherwise it wouldn't be happening!

Karen1629h · 26/07/2025 17:26

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nomas · 26/07/2025 17:27

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:17

She is being forced to work part time while her sil gets to stay at home

Her man knows what she wants and is being weird by forcing her to work

If I were her, I'd just quit my job, sack the childcare and tell my husband to deal with it. He'll run to mummy but will be back eventually

No one gets to sit on their arse whilst their spouse works their backside off.

She needs to remember she is not OP’s daughter and stay in her box.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 17:27

None of this makes much sense. If they can afford private healthcare, maternity, holidays, housekeeper etc they can afford their own trip to Disney & for the DIL to give up work anyway.

Yerroblemom1923 · 26/07/2025 17:28

Jeez, back off, woman, you're way too much! Let them breathe. If they want you they'll let you know, seriously, give them some space you sound totally overbearing!

Namechangerage · 26/07/2025 17:28

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:17

She is being forced to work part time while her sil gets to stay at home

Her man knows what she wants and is being weird by forcing her to work

If I were her, I'd just quit my job, sack the childcare and tell my husband to deal with it. He'll run to mummy but will be back eventually

What the….

As a partnership they should agree what is best for their family. One partner can’t just unilaterally decide not to work…. What if he decided to give up work, what then? It isn’t unreasonable to not want to be the only one bringing in a salary, especially if she likes to shop, do hobbies and go out with her friends. He’s essentially saying “I’ll pay all the family bills and you cover your hobbies and other expenses” TOTALLY reasonable.

HunnyPot · 26/07/2025 17:28

He’s married a woman who doesn’t like you or your son unless she is getting money from you both.

Divorce favours the wife financially so I think you are going to be stuck with her.

A break for your son and the kids sounds nice.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 17:28

What if he decided to give up work, what then?

The OP will fund it.

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 17:28

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:16

A full on gold digger who has had his three children who just wants to dedicate her time to them 🙄

He got a new car, hes hardly suffering for his family. He married a woman who wants to be a sahm and is failing to take care of her

If you want a career woman, have one

Don't be a part of a lifestyle that makes women sahm, and then force your wife to work while you run to mummy every 5 mins complaining about her

I never said she was being abused, just that her husband is terrible

I am struggling to fully accept what I am reading her.
"He is failing to take care of her"
She has two kids in private school, a housekeeper, a car, holidays. She just has to work part time, that's all.

I am off to tell my husband that he is failing to take care of me because I have to go to work.

He will laugh at this, as would anyone in the UK in this century.

wordler · 26/07/2025 17:29

OP - I hope the Disney idea was just you venting because that sounds quite horrible.

Otherwise it does sounds as though DIL is punishing you for not funding her to be a SAHM. She's wrongly blaming you though - this is an issue for her and your son to decide on.

Just try to ignore the sniping and aim for the best relationship you can with DGG via your son. As the kids get older you'll be able to have more of an independent relationship with them anyway.

Namechangerage · 26/07/2025 17:30

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 17:28

I am struggling to fully accept what I am reading her.
"He is failing to take care of her"
She has two kids in private school, a housekeeper, a car, holidays. She just has to work part time, that's all.

I am off to tell my husband that he is failing to take care of me because I have to go to work.

He will laugh at this, as would anyone in the UK in this century.

I know! I have to work full-time AND I don’t have a housekeeper! I’m so telling my DH he’s out of order tonight 🤣

Nogg · 26/07/2025 17:31

I haven’t read the comments. You sound over involved giving money to stay and control your kids. Give money yes but not like your doing. Supporting your daughter to be a SAHM? If I was the DIL I wouldn’t resent you too.

AutumnFog · 26/07/2025 17:31

The better option is to invite your DIL somewhere just you and her, eg Spa day or meal and drinks.
Spend some time building a relationship and during it have a conversation about how you think you've upset her by not supporting her wanting to stop working, and that it's a tricky line to balance as you don't want to overstep with your son feeling its better for her to be part time but that you really value her and everything she does for the DC and DS. Explain that if DS had wanted it you absolutly would have as you want to treat her and your DD the same, but dont want to get between DIL and DS.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 26/07/2025 17:31

You and your son are triangulating against her which is toxic and enmeshed.

MayMumm · 26/07/2025 17:31

SoScarletItWas · 26/07/2025 14:55

If my MIL manufactured a trip to Disney just so that she could throw out the pass-agg ‘oh I thought you didn’t want to see so much of me’, that would be the end of any relationship.

Her comment that she wanted your son to have the kids on his own when she was with her friends makes me wonder how much childcare he does.

A few hours every week also feels a lot to me; I assume this is at a weekend when they’re not at work? Maybe they want to do family stuff on those limited days?

That said, you clearly do a lot for them and that’s great. Are you sure she’s not picking up that you expect her to be more grateful. It sounds like there are strings attached.

I’m not ignoring the fact that you refused to contribute to her being a SAHM. She shouldn’t have used that as an excuse for cooling off - but it doesn’t sound like you’ve ever really gelled. I find it really hard being around my MIL to the extent I have been alone with her for probably no longer than 10 minutes in over 30 years.

Spot on!

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:32

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 17:22

I think a lot of men would then divorce you.

Life would get a lot trickier financially then. Especially as she can't claim 50% of her mil contributions. Otherwise mil can stop and just pay school directly. Also, mil can have unobstructed access to the children on her sons days

This is not a bad idea. Perhaps you should suggest it to dil

Dil deserves better than that tbh - what's her big crime, wanting to stay home with her kids?

That husband isn't going anywhere tbh, but maybe he would

I personally would prefer to divorce such a man but hey ho

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:33

nomas · 26/07/2025 17:27

No one gets to sit on their arse whilst their spouse works their backside off.

She needs to remember she is not OP’s daughter and stay in her box.

Sit on her arse? Raising three kids?!

BoredZelda · 26/07/2025 17:33

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:19

I don’t know 100% of details on their finances but from what I can deduce and the things they’ve said, his salary pays for family expenses (mortgage, bills, holidays, food, activities, meals out, kids’ activities, housekeeper, private healthcare including private maternity etc) and her salary is more like “play money” for herself so to be used on her sport, dinner with friends, new pair of sunglasses, hairdressers, clothes etc

You felt it was important to mention she used her own money to pay for a new pair of sunglasses?

I’m glad my MIL isn’t tracking what I do right down to the sunglasses.

Namechangerage · 26/07/2025 17:33

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 17:28

What if he decided to give up work, what then?

The OP will fund it.

True but that’s a decision between OP and her children. DIL would still have to work to find her lifestyle…

Sounds like the DIL is very entitled and trying to piggyback on her well-off ILs.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/07/2025 17:34

Starlight7080 · 26/07/2025 16:02

Well paying for everything seems nice but really you just make it so they can't look after themselves.
And makes them behave like spoilt adults.

I could be a billionaire and not do that
how on earth do you expect them
to be ‘proper adults’ who need to work and save and earn the things they need/want/crave/strive for ???

the fact they accept it all baffles me - my DH would be appalled if either set of our parents offered to bank roll
our lifestyle?

Because we have PRIDE and are - you know- grown ups…

baffling!!!

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 17:34

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:33

Sit on her arse? Raising three kids?!

Two are on school. One has at least some days in nursery. She has a housekeeper. She is able to decline babysitting so she can't be that tired.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:35

Namechangerage · 26/07/2025 17:28

What the….

As a partnership they should agree what is best for their family. One partner can’t just unilaterally decide not to work…. What if he decided to give up work, what then? It isn’t unreasonable to not want to be the only one bringing in a salary, especially if she likes to shop, do hobbies and go out with her friends. He’s essentially saying “I’ll pay all the family bills and you cover your hobbies and other expenses” TOTALLY reasonable.

Whats best for their family is a wife who is happy and healthy - shes not happy working and wants to be home with her children, I completely understand it

Yes, shes not perfect but the man is not strong enough tbh, constantly relying on his parents for handouts but forcing his wife to work