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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

475 replies

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:05

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 17:04

One person working part time should have to be agreed by both parties in a relationship. Its is a partnership, one person being at home or working part time places all the pressure on the person working fulltime.

The DIL has a pretty good set and she is still not happy.

She doesn't want to work - her rich husband is forcing her! Terrible man

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 17:06

junkmaail · 26/07/2025 16:30

Of course she sounds like a bitch. That’s what the Op made her sound like.

If dIl is happy to take the money, happy to ask for more money, but won't let her husband take the children to see his parents when dil has personal plans with friends etc (so is not being left out of anything and it doesn't affect her), then I think she probably is a bitch.

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 17:06

bumblecoach · 26/07/2025 17:01

I would be very happy to cover all of those things and more as I say it’s going to the way long-term so what’s the point in them having to wait until I’m dead to get the money?
This is a well trodden path and a good financial strategy to implement to stop spending all of your money on inheritance tax which most of Mumsnet seems to find objectionable

You cannot just give money away willy nilly and expect not to pay IHT. The rules are really strict as to how much you can give away doing this.

aneelli · 26/07/2025 17:06

You literally fund her kids and this is how she repays you? The audacity for her to ask you for maintenance so she doesn’t need to work whilst treating you like dirt, she isn’t your daughter and you don’t need to treat her like one when she has zero interest in giving you the respect you deserve.

Anyahyacinth · 26/07/2025 17:07

I see things from her point of view, she wants relaxed time in her home, she realises you see her a certain way and its not as a full family member.

It is irritating when fathers don't parent their children themselves but when they have solo time with them they look for MIL support in that time. I see her view on that.

You seem to know a lot that should be private within their relationship. She asked for help you said no...she'd have been an angel not human not to react to that. Your list of gifts are not specific to her and then you suggest you should exclude her...your true attitude whilst shielded by seeming generosity shows in this final suggestion...which I think is why she has distanced herself ...you have, as much as your overhearing her comment, shared your disdain

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 26/07/2025 17:07

WildCats24 · 26/07/2025 17:04

OP, you’ve raised children who aren’t capable of providing the lifestyle they want for themselves. This has resulted in a bunfight about who gets what and having expectations from you by way of underhand comments. You’re using money to buy affection and to punish your DIL with this sly Disney trip which isn’t meant to be altruistic—it’s a dig at DIL. I hope you’re saving money for everyone’s therapy—they’re going to need it. I say this as someone who has come from a wealthy family, who has had to learn to provide for my own lifestyle without help from my parents beyond age 22. Stop infantilising them and let them stand on their own two feet! You’re far too enmeshed in the finances of fully grown adults.

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Absolutely this. This is what happens when you spoil your kids and never give them the skills to stand on their own two feet.

SilverHammer · 26/07/2025 17:07

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:19

I don’t know 100% of details on their finances but from what I can deduce and the things they’ve said, his salary pays for family expenses (mortgage, bills, holidays, food, activities, meals out, kids’ activities, housekeeper, private healthcare including private maternity etc) and her salary is more like “play money” for herself so to be used on her sport, dinner with friends, new pair of sunglasses, hairdressers, clothes etc

It’s people like you who give mother in laws a bad name. I can’t believe you would organise a trip to Disney in order to get one over on your DIL. Your precious son doesn’t want her to be a SAHM probably because it suits him. You sound manipulative and controlling. I don’t blame her for backing off.

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 17:08

WildCats24 · 26/07/2025 17:04

OP, you’ve raised children who aren’t capable of providing the lifestyle they want for themselves. This has resulted in a bunfight about who gets what and having expectations from you by way of underhand comments. You’re using money to buy affection and to punish your DIL with this sly Disney trip which isn’t meant to be altruistic—it’s a dig at DIL. I hope you’re saving money for everyone’s therapy—they’re going to need it. I say this as someone who has come from a wealthy family, who has had to learn to provide for my own lifestyle without help from my parents beyond age 22. Stop infantilising them and let them stand on their own two feet! You’re far too enmeshed in the finances of fully grown adults.

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Totally agree
It's holding power over children. Let them grow up and finance themselves. They probably just see you as a cashpoint.

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 17:08

Apocketfilledwithposies · 26/07/2025 17:04

You have two sets of grandchildren. One set has a sahm, funded by you. One set doesn't because even though their mum would like that, you and her husband have said no, you all don't think it's a good idea.

You say you treat your children equally, but you definitely aren't treating your grandchildren equally.

The Disneyland idea is madness, and rather telling of how you approach things.

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The daughter has presumably has a relationship where they have agreed that one person will be at home. The DIL does not have that agreement. That is not down to the OP. She cannot give the DIL the green light to give up her job, even if she is prepared to subsidise that decision. It has to be an agreement between husband and wife.

bumblecoach · 26/07/2025 17:09

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 17:06

You cannot just give money away willy nilly and expect not to pay IHT. The rules are really strict as to how much you can give away doing this.

And as long as those rules are applied, Absolutely you can give away whatever you want to. Whoever you want. Is it really that objectionable that the OP own flesh and blood should benefit from her endeavour?

What a jealous bunch you sound

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 17:10

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 26/07/2025 17:07

Absolutely this. This is what happens when you spoil your kids and never give them the skills to stand on their own two feet.

Absolutely. I know a family like this with 3 boys. Ma and Pa bought them properties each, and was still giving them 'pocket money' when they were in their twenties!
They are rude and entitled now. Course they are.
One of them (who is the same age as my DD...mid thirties) has never had a job! He just prats around and calls himself an entrepreneur!

OP... you are not doing any favours for your DC.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 26/07/2025 17:11

It is hard to believe adult children live like this. Lucky ducks.

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 17:11

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:00

Yeah, I know, the son getting money from his parents, crazy eh!

So then maybe he should say no to the money and she should work full time to cover the difference

Sooooo many people don't want to work. It's just a fact of life that we have to, in most cases. She sounds like a full-on gold digger. Do you truly believe her to be an abused poor woman forced into part time work with a housekeeper and children at school. If that's the criteria, a lot of us are victims of significant abuse.

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 17:12

bumblecoach · 26/07/2025 17:09

And as long as those rules are applied, Absolutely you can give away whatever you want to. Whoever you want. Is it really that objectionable that the OP own flesh and blood should benefit from her endeavour?

What a jealous bunch you sound

I'm not the slightest bit jealous, what an odd thing to say.

I just know a lot about IHT, that's all.

JudgeJ · 26/07/2025 17:12

NoKnit · 26/07/2025 14:54

Obviously totally need to hear your DILs side to the story to be able to comment properly as your post comes across as very one sided

As do the whining DIL posts about her awful MIL but no-one ever wants to hear the other side then! Odd, isn't it.

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 17:12

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:05

She doesn't want to work - her rich husband is forcing her! Terrible man

I would love not to work whilst my MIL pays for two of my children to go to private school. It's a hard life.

bumblecoach · 26/07/2025 17:13

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 17:12

I'm not the slightest bit jealous, what an odd thing to say.

I just know a lot about IHT, that's all.

It wasn’t specifically directed at you, more the general contributors to the thread. But I suppose if the cap fits

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 17:14

bumblecoach · 26/07/2025 17:13

It wasn’t specifically directed at you, more the general contributors to the thread. But I suppose if the cap fits

Thank you for clarifying it doesn't apply to me. You could not be more right

saraclara · 26/07/2025 17:14

It is irritating when fathers don't parent their children themselves but when they have solo time with them they look for MIL support in that time. I see her view on that

People are forever telling women on this board that their partners should take responsibility for their kids seeing the paternal grandparents.

When my DD has a weekend day with the DGCs on her own she'll often bring them to see me. My son in law will often visit his parents when my DD has a weekend shift. It makes sense. It's not that either can't or won't parent. They're both amazing parents, and often have the kids alone.

Neither needs their mum's support with the kids. They just like to visit and it's a good time to do so.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:16

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 17:11

So then maybe he should say no to the money and she should work full time to cover the difference

Sooooo many people don't want to work. It's just a fact of life that we have to, in most cases. She sounds like a full-on gold digger. Do you truly believe her to be an abused poor woman forced into part time work with a housekeeper and children at school. If that's the criteria, a lot of us are victims of significant abuse.

A full on gold digger who has had his three children who just wants to dedicate her time to them 🙄

He got a new car, hes hardly suffering for his family. He married a woman who wants to be a sahm and is failing to take care of her

If you want a career woman, have one

Don't be a part of a lifestyle that makes women sahm, and then force your wife to work while you run to mummy every 5 mins complaining about her

I never said she was being abused, just that her husband is terrible

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:17

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 17:12

I would love not to work whilst my MIL pays for two of my children to go to private school. It's a hard life.

She is being forced to work part time while her sil gets to stay at home

Her man knows what she wants and is being weird by forcing her to work

If I were her, I'd just quit my job, sack the childcare and tell my husband to deal with it. He'll run to mummy but will be back eventually

zeibesaffron · 26/07/2025 17:18

I think you do far to much for both your kids, they are adults- where is their independence? how exactly are they standing on their own 2 feet? What would happen if you lost all your money tomorrow?? How would the relationships be then??

Aside from that - your DiL has a bloody cheek asking you to fund her lifestyle when you already have given them money for a house and pay for 2 of the kids school fees. Perhaps your son may feel they cannot afford for her to stop work and maybe doesn’t want to keep relying in his parents for money!! Which I personally would find mortifying!

I think she is ungrateful tbh and if she wants at sahp lifestyle she needs to ask her own family to support it. You owe her nothing.

Whilst I think she isn’t pleasant and is being rude, we certainly didn’t see our parents once a week when the kids were little- that feels quite a lot, also the disney thing is a bad idea!! You all go for everyone pays for themselves.

Finally I hope you and your DH do not go without so your spoilt kids carry on benefiting.

4forksache · 26/07/2025 17:21

I’m not sure you should be paying for specific things. Agree a similar amount for both and then let them decide what they do with this money.

That way you stay out of their marriages entirely.

Namechangerage · 26/07/2025 17:21

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:19

I don’t know 100% of details on their finances but from what I can deduce and the things they’ve said, his salary pays for family expenses (mortgage, bills, holidays, food, activities, meals out, kids’ activities, housekeeper, private healthcare including private maternity etc) and her salary is more like “play money” for herself so to be used on her sport, dinner with friends, new pair of sunglasses, hairdressers, clothes etc

In that case she really needs to get a grip.

Can you be my MIL please? 🤣

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 17:22

She is being forced to work part time while her Sil gets to stay at home

The SAHM vs working full time/ part time decision should have to be agreed by both people in a relationship. Should the husband be forced to be the only breadwinner?

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