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AIBU?

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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

475 replies

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 16:53

I'm on your dil's side

Your son is forcing her to work

I'd never be with a man like this either

dynamiccactus · 26/07/2025 16:55

It also blows my mind that you pay for your daughter to be a SAHM. You clearly want her to be dependent - on you - and her husband. Why?

As for your DIL - she is also better working because if she'd divorce your son if she didn't, one day she will divorce him anyway and she'll have to stand on her own two feet. So much better that she keeps her career going in some way.

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 16:56

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 16:53

I'm on your dil's side

Your son is forcing her to work

I'd never be with a man like this either

The state is forcing me to work. Happy for you to fund my lifestyle so I can give up.

Going down to a single person income, and all the pressure it puts on one person, needs to be a joint decision.

And OP doesn't owe her a fully funded SAHM lifestyle. Even if she can afford it and does it for her own daughter. If she is going to support the family like like that, she should pay for her son to stay at home.

dynamiccactus · 26/07/2025 16:57

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 16:53

I'm on your dil's side

Your son is forcing her to work

I'd never be with a man like this either

I don't think anyone comes out of this story well but all mothers should work, it makes no sense to infantalise yourself by being dependent on a man, and your parents in this case. She's a grown woman and needs her own life and own money.

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 16:57

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:12

We are quite comfortably off.
yes, I do that for my daughter. It’s not really a salary, more like giving her large sums of money to cover any expenses for her

"We are quite comfortably off"

I think that is somewhat of an understatement. You must be seriously mega wealthy to be able to give deposits for houses, pay nursery fees, give brand new cars, pay for private education for GC, along with subsidising your DD to be a stay at home mum by paying her to do that!

Seriously, I would reset everything... we are comfortably off, we have DCs probably the age of yours, but would it help them if I paid for all of this for them? Would they respect us? I don't think so. I am generous when I have to be but as a PP said... it's time to cut the apron strings and get your children to stand on their own two feet.
That will solve the problem with your DIL too.

saraclara · 26/07/2025 16:57

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 16:53

I'm on your dil's side

Your son is forcing her to work

I'd never be with a man like this either

Why should she not work, if the children are all school age? And why should her mother in law be the one who pays her not to work?

Iris2020 · 26/07/2025 16:59

BusyExpert · 26/07/2025 16:25

the OP is hurt and feels and understandably so. When people feel like this they consider how to fight back. Clearly that is not her normal nature because she has been generous with money and time over an extended period. Someone who can be so spiteful at the drop of a hat may not appreciate this.

This. The dil.id clearly manipulative, entitled, lazy and generally insufferable. That makes the most generous of persons lose their composure and wish for revenge.
She sounds absolutely horrendous.

Rowen32 · 26/07/2025 16:59

I actually think I would feel I'd failed as a parent if I didn't raise my children to want to be self sufficient and independent. Yes, give them as many opportunities as I can and definitely, help them if they ever need it for some reason or another (bad health for example) but I want my children to see the value in working hard, in having that pride and joy that comes from making something of yourself and finding their own way in the world, that's a gift, not endless handouts. To be that enmeshed just doesn't seem healthy..

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 26/07/2025 16:59

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 16:53

I'm on your dil's side

Your son is forcing her to work

I'd never be with a man like this either

Heaven forbid a grown adult has to pay for themselves Hmm

Rosscameasdoody · 26/07/2025 16:59

NoKnit · 26/07/2025 14:54

Obviously totally need to hear your DILs side to the story to be able to comment properly as your post comes across as very one sided

Always the case on MN and not possible to hear the other side. Ever.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:00

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 16:56

The state is forcing me to work. Happy for you to fund my lifestyle so I can give up.

Going down to a single person income, and all the pressure it puts on one person, needs to be a joint decision.

And OP doesn't owe her a fully funded SAHM lifestyle. Even if she can afford it and does it for her own daughter. If she is going to support the family like like that, she should pay for her son to stay at home.

The op is weird and using her money to buy influence in her kids relationships 🤷‍♀️

The son has a wife who is unhappy working and who wants to stay home with their children - he shouldn't be denying her this

That said, I'd never ask my mil for money

Something tells me that the son runs from one to the other - maybe it was his idea to have his wife ask his parents for money after he'd been running her down to his mum

Be careful who you have kids with honestly, it doesn't sound like she has as much of a support system as he does

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:00

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 26/07/2025 16:59

Heaven forbid a grown adult has to pay for themselves Hmm

Yeah, I know, the son getting money from his parents, crazy eh!

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2025 17:00

KnewYearKnewMe · 26/07/2025 16:45

@bumblecoachschool fees, nursery fees, cars, holidays??? Paying an allowance to an adult child so they can stay at home, then posting on Mumsnet because - who knew - all is not well with the family dynamics?

I think you’re deliberately being contrary. Of course having those things funded for you by your parents, when you are a parent, does not make you an independent adult.

^^ This with knobs on.

TorroFerney · 26/07/2025 17:00

Well the son must be doing ok if his salary pays for everything (minus school fees) and a housekeeper. One assumes that it's not a three bed semi if they have a housekeeper. One also assumes this is totally made up.....

bumblecoach · 26/07/2025 17:01

KnewYearKnewMe · 26/07/2025 16:45

@bumblecoachschool fees, nursery fees, cars, holidays??? Paying an allowance to an adult child so they can stay at home, then posting on Mumsnet because - who knew - all is not well with the family dynamics?

I think you’re deliberately being contrary. Of course having those things funded for you by your parents, when you are a parent, does not make you an independent adult.

I would be very happy to cover all of those things and more as I say it’s going to the way long-term so what’s the point in them having to wait until I’m dead to get the money?
This is a well trodden path and a good financial strategy to implement to stop spending all of your money on inheritance tax which most of Mumsnet seems to find objectionable

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 26/07/2025 17:01

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:00

Yeah, I know, the son getting money from his parents, crazy eh!

I've said multiple times the son should be mortified to be accepting constant handouts from mummy.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:01

dynamiccactus · 26/07/2025 16:57

I don't think anyone comes out of this story well but all mothers should work, it makes no sense to infantalise yourself by being dependent on a man, and your parents in this case. She's a grown woman and needs her own life and own money.

Huh all mothers should work?? 😭

Absolutely not, you should work if you want to (assuming you can afford this choice)

Not everyone can afford not to work, but that isnt the issue here

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:02

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 26/07/2025 17:01

I've said multiple times the son should be mortified to be accepting constant handouts from mummy.

That's the dynamic we're dealing with here, i would never be with such a man

BlueLimes · 26/07/2025 17:02

Wow - she’s incredibly entitled. You absolutely should not be giving money so she doesn’t have to work.
She sounds awful. I think you’ve probably been too generous.

BlueLimes · 26/07/2025 17:02

And very rude too.

BuckChuckets · 26/07/2025 17:03

JaneEyre40 · 26/07/2025 14:58

I would stop funding your children's lives. It's not helping (in the case of your son's family). They should learn to be independent adults.

This. Honestly you all sound like people I'd want nothing to do with. Yes your DIL is acting grabby and unpleasant, but surely you've got to expect it if you're funding your adult children's lives so much. I can't imagine taking so much from my parents as an adult, so perhaps your spoiled son has attracted a spoiled wife.

Apocketfilledwithposies · 26/07/2025 17:04

You have two sets of grandchildren. One set has a sahm, funded by you. One set doesn't because even though their mum would like that, you and her husband have said no, you all don't think it's a good idea.

You say you treat your children equally, but you definitely aren't treating your grandchildren equally.

The Disneyland idea is madness, and rather telling of how you approach things.

GreenCandleWax · 26/07/2025 17:04

In your shoes I would ask what is wrong. You could ask your DS first. But why not ask DIL outright? She is being passive aggressive for no apparent reason. I would call her out on it, particularly after the remark about her DC not seeing you often. Put her on the spot and ask why she is hostile to you. You could preface it with having always wanted to be a close family, being on her side and your DS's, but you sense resistance on her part. It would give you clarity and mean that she can't go on being snide to you without some accountability.

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 17:04

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 16:53

I'm on your dil's side

Your son is forcing her to work

I'd never be with a man like this either

One person working part time should have to be agreed by both parties in a relationship. Its is a partnership, one person being at home or working part time places all the pressure on the person working fulltime.

The DIL has a pretty good set and she is still not happy.

WildCats24 · 26/07/2025 17:04

OP, you’ve raised children who aren’t capable of providing the lifestyle they want for themselves. This has resulted in a bunfight about who gets what and having expectations from you by way of underhand comments. You’re using money to buy affection and to punish your DIL with this sly Disney trip which isn’t meant to be altruistic—it’s a dig at DIL. I hope you’re saving money for everyone’s therapy—they’re going to need it. I say this as someone who has come from a wealthy family, who has had to learn to provide for my own lifestyle without help from my parents beyond age 22. Stop infantilising them and let them stand on their own two feet! You’re far too enmeshed in the finances of fully grown adults.