This is why we should bring back the death penalty

[bluewanda]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14918815/drug-addicted-cross-dresser-abused-lover-murder-son-hospital-ward.html

(One example of many.)

YABU to use anything you read in the Daily Heil as the basis for forming a black and white opinion about a really complex issue.

I'm shocked that a Daily Mail reader wants the death penalty. Anyone would think you didn't think things through, for example miscarriages of justice. Surely you don't want the state to kill innocent people OP.

As always, first post nails it

Are you saying the Daily Mail report is untrue?

“The premature baby suffered ‘catastrophic injuries’ to his jaw, head, neck and legs at Yeovil District Hospital, Somerset.”

There’s no “complexity” about it.

And this is (just one reason) why we shouldn’t

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rej5jv626o

He brutally murdered his baby??

No complexity about this case, but plenty of complexity regarding the death penalty

There will be miscarriages of justice. So you will be executing some innocent people. Maybe not this guy, but once you bring it back it’s an absolute certainty that some cases will be wrongly decided.

Also someone had to be the executioner. I don’t think we should be in the business of either putting someone in that position or encouraging anyone who is happy to do it.

Also it’s very much arguable that a whole life term is a worse punishment - but doesn’t fall foul of the above difficulties. Anyone wrongly convicted can be released when it comes to light, but they can’t if you have killed them.

Here’s a Guardian link, for anyone who thinks if it’s reported in the Daily Mail it cannot possibly be true:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jul/24/man-guilty-murder-two-week-old-son-somerset-baby-unit

Legalising murder makes us as bad as them.

This has been done to death so to speak,the death penalty will not be reintroduced in the UK and nor it should.

In a civilised society we should not be murdering people.

Punishment is through incarceration, thus losing liberty.

It costs more to keep someone on death row until they are killed rather than in prison their whole life

It doesn't act ad a deterrent in any way

The wrong people get killed

It won't bring people they've murdered back

Fair post. I just feel so upset by this story.

Extreme cases make bad law.

It is a horrible story. Perhaps you should use your intelligence to consider just how we end up with people who commit these crimes in our society?

I understand the sentiment but am against the death sentence. As a civilised society as a whole it can't happen.

I completely agree with you, OP. Anyone attempting to rationalise why we shouldn't reinstate the death penalty is just as disturbed as those who committed the crimes, to be honest.

I’m struggling to see that right now. Why should the scumbag who murdered an innocent baby get to live when his victim didn’t?

Well, that's just not true is it. Hyperbolic nonsense

A society must be better than the worst of its members.

There was a massive failure here. There is no way they should have been allowed near that baby.

That would be excusing his actions in some way. And there is no excuse for killing a newborn baby in hospital. None.

From hearing the news about this vile creature I personally think that spending his time with the inmates at HMP will get him sorted and regret the bloody horrific injuries he caused to an innocent baby.

Not it’s not, at all. Which is why I said you should use your intelligence. And also that he deserves incarceration. I did not, for one moment, suggest that he should be excused in any kind of way.

It’s not excusing him. But why do you think this has happened?

Stop the knee-jerk reaction.

I hope so. But will he be mingling with other prisoners or kept in a high security wing “for his own safety” 🙄