This is why we should bring back the death penalty

[bluewanda]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14918815/drug-addicted-cross-dresser-abused-lover-murder-son-hospital-ward.html

(One example of many.)

It made him feel a fraction of the fear he inflicted on his poor child. Do you not think he deserves that, at the very least?

We should have a referendum on whether to bring back the death penalty. I am very confident that "yes" would win, and by quite a large margin.

So does killing them to be fair. It has the ultimate low risk of reoffending rate.

The death penalty is barbaric. Yes so was this case but the state should not be carrying out barbaric acts as retribution for a crime. Let the man do his time in prison and it won’t be a pleasant experience for him.

Well, you would likely be wrong.

Sally Clark.

Do you have evidence that there are fewer murders in countries which have capital punishment?

Revenge is not the same as justice, it is causing pain because you have been hurt, nothing more. As PPs have said the existence of the death penalty is damaging to us as a society and their will be miscarriages of justice, and a single completed death sentence where the defendant was guilty is one too many.

Life should mean life though for murder.

I hope he's killed in prison.

You’re not exactly arguing your point with grace, are you? Just constantly saying the same things over again and accusing other posters of being stupid. If you strongly feel that the DP should be brought back then ok, you’re entitled to that opinion. But you’re hardly going to bring other’s around to your way of thinking by speaking to them the way you are.

There were countless mistakes made and he should never have been allowed to keep her. She was failed by agencies that should have protected her.

It is based in emotion I agree. There's a cost associated with prisoners. If extinguished via prison justice, that's one less cost. I wouldn't weep for that guy.
Yet, where does it begin and where end. And what about the innocent people in prison. It's a very difficult subject.

I approve of the idea that peadophiles could be killed in prison. Tbh. Yet, again, mistakes, false accusations or imprisonment does happen. So I'd possibly back track on that.

The thought of these people free and in circulation is unnerving. This is what would feed my above bloodlust. 😬

I doubt he made any link between his own actions and being assaulted himself, to be honest.

@SummerEve You must have had a hard time crafting that insult.

The death penalty is not "legalising murder". Murder is by definition, unlawful killing. I would bring it back and apply it retrospectively. Free up space in prisons by executing all those convicted of murder.

As a civilized society, WE don’t kill people. We don’t sink that low. Let the USA do that. Revenge is not Justice. It’s ugly retribution. No state murder and no death penalty.

That’s worked great in the wider context in the USA, hasn’t it?

And those who were wrongly convicted? What about them?

He’d have known that’s why he was attacked. That’s good enough for me.

Not really, took a few seconds

They would absolutely mess it up, make mistakes, kill innocent people. I can even imagine the wrong prisoner being taken and put to death because he was sat in his mates cell on the wrong day.

I'm being facetious, well not entirely, yet, we can't underestimate the utter idiocy, incompetence and power trip mentality of too many ' in charge '.

Please can you elaborate? How many dead people went on to commit more crimes? Please link to stats. I would be fascinated to see.

It would be brexit all over again, with even less reason. “People” as a herd are stupid, fearful and driven by their emotions. That is not justice, nor is it an appropriate way to make decisions. The death penalty is not a deterrent, not something reasonable societies do, so a referendum would be the worst possible thing as I fear you might be right.

And how does it being good enough for you change the outcome for Sara?

This case is horrific and shocked me to the core. The murderer should never be released. However I don't think the death penalty should be used.
My granny was raped then murdered in the 1950s abroad. It was horrific and has had an obvious lasting impact on my mother and aunties and uncles. Her murderer was tried and found guilty. He was then hanged. It happened within 4 months.
He didn't ever have to think about what he had done or spent years regretting it. He was freed from all that.
Also, what if it wasn't him (no witnesses, no DNA stuff back then) and a terrible miscarriage if justice had happened how will it ever be rectified?

Yes, you’re right. What I meant (and didn’t express very well) was that no amount of trying to make those two bastards into better people would have worked. They were rotten to the core.