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Dads partner leaving him homeless after her death.

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Tray80 · 24/07/2025 00:41

Appology in advance for the huge thread but mainly feel like I need to vent so here goes! My dad and his partner have been together for 26+ years, living together in her home for 22 years. Although I was close to my dad as a child, our relationship dwindled as I approached my adult years. I guess he just stopped making an effort once he met my stepmum, as they tended to spend most of their spare time with her kids and grandkids.

Even though they only live 20 mins drive away they never visited including when my babies were born. They put mine and my kids birthday/xmas cards in the post every year. We speak on the phone a couple of times a month( when I make the effort) and I call around to see them half a dozen times a year, always bearing gifts on special occasions for eg birthdays, fathers day, Xmas etc, so basically it's always me making the effort. It used to really hurt my feelings when I'd see how much effort they both made for my stepmums side of the family but after 20 years of seeing it I just learned to live with it.

For the past few years my stepmum has had a terrible run of health. My dad has retired to take care of her as she has been wheelchair bound for quite some time. Unfortunately she's now been diagnosed with cancer and has been told that there's a 50/50 chance that she may not make it through her operation next week. Needless to say the whole family is devastated, including my dad. I called to see them last week and while walking in the garden my dad broke down and told me that he doesn't know how he'll carry on living without his partner. I can tell its taken a huge toll on his health too as he's stopped eating and taking care of himself and even had a nasty fall, which is so unlike him.

Today I received a call from my stepmum. I was really shocked when her number came up on my phone as she's only rang me twice in 23 years. She told me that she wanted to talk to me while my dad was asleep. She said she wanted to lay down the ground rules of how things would play out for my dad if she was to pass away during her surgery next week. It was explained that as the house was legally hers, as it was in her name, she would be leaving it in trust to her 2 children and grandkids, meaning that if she was to pass away, then my dad would be homeless. Apparently she had explained this to my dad a few weeks previous, which timed in with the fall and his sudden run of bad health. I believe this to be due to stress as he'd just been told that in 2 weeks he could possibly be loosing the love of his life, and now also his home. I know that my dad has always been aware that the house was hers and hers only but I don't think he was expecting to be turfed out so fast. I could kind of understand the rush if my stepmums family were struggling financially but they're all very well off. I asked about my dad's financial situation, if he had a bit of a nest egg to get himself on his feet if the worse was to happen and she said that she doesn't know, as they've always kept their finances separate. She mentioned she didn't trust him to take care of the house after his fall. She added that she thinks that once she's gone my dad will probably just give up on life and not be far behind. She also pointed out that hes very lucky that hes been able to live mortgage free for 20 years.

I can't begin understand the stress she's under with the surgery loomimg and the possibility of not making it out. I really don't want to see her in a negative light as I know my dad loves her more than life itself and they both need kindness and support more than anything right now, but the conversation I had with her last night has left me with a bitter feeling. She asked me not to tell my dad that we'd had that conversation, which I will respect. I just don't understand why she'd told me at all, as it clearly wasn't out of concern for my dad but rather a concern that he wouldn't leave the house when shes gone. I feel maybe she was prepping me as she knows he'll be landing on my door step when her kids sell the house, which in turn seems like a smack in the face when neither of them have ever made any effort with me or the kids. I just keep looking at my husband and trying to put myself in her situation. Could I purposely leave my husband financially destitute? I couldn't! The other part that is bugging me is that if all goes well for her then she'll be at home being cared for once more by my dad, the same man she was turfing out on the streets if the worse was to happen. I feel as though hes just being used. I really hate feeling this bitterness about the situation and I know I'm feeling overwhelmed by it all so hoping that someone else's take may help me see it all in a different light. Am I being unreasonable in feeling like this? If you made it to the end then thanks for sticking with me!🤷‍♀️🤯

OP posts:
Allseeingallknowing · 27/07/2025 15:36

Gettingbysomehow · 27/07/2025 14:32

Yes this!!! She isn't his mother. She has her own children. I expect grown men to make arrangements for themselves if they aren't married or in the will.
It's absurd that the should have to go out of her way to make plans for him when he hasn't even made plans for himself over the years. Why should women be the ones to sort everyone out?

Surely it’s about kindness and consideration? She was happy enough to make use of him, now she’s discarding him like a worn out dishcloth. Yes he had a roof over his head, but he did his bit. Without him she’d have paid out thousands. She owes him some consideration. It’s the way she’s gone about it, cold hearted and calculating. She should have sat down with him a long time ago and come to a mutual agreement.

Gettingbysomehow · 27/07/2025 16:31

Allseeingallknowing · 27/07/2025 15:36

Surely it’s about kindness and consideration? She was happy enough to make use of him, now she’s discarding him like a worn out dishcloth. Yes he had a roof over his head, but he did his bit. Without him she’d have paid out thousands. She owes him some consideration. It’s the way she’s gone about it, cold hearted and calculating. She should have sat down with him a long time ago and come to a mutual agreement.

He hasn't bothered to discuss this with her all the years they have been together!!!
Yet she has been expected to plan his future for him. Now he's astounded that she hasn't provided for him.
What the heck!!!
If I'd been in his position I'd have been discussing this before I even moved in. My personal security is very important to me.
If she'd wanted to look after him she would have married him. She didn't. More fool hi.. I'd say this equally if it was a woman in this position.

Digdongdoo · 27/07/2025 16:38

Gettingbysomehow · 27/07/2025 16:31

He hasn't bothered to discuss this with her all the years they have been together!!!
Yet she has been expected to plan his future for him. Now he's astounded that she hasn't provided for him.
What the heck!!!
If I'd been in his position I'd have been discussing this before I even moved in. My personal security is very important to me.
If she'd wanted to look after him she would have married him. She didn't. More fool hi.. I'd say this equally if it was a woman in this position.

Of course they've discussed it before. I imagine he didn't much like the thought of it and assumed she would change her mind. But that isn't her responsibility.
I do not buy for a second that he has been completely blindsided. And if he has, what an idiot.

NosyJosie · 27/07/2025 17:36

I am coming in to a similar position and my OH has two grown children. Mine are younger. We are discussing how to arrange joint finances if we chose to retire together. On one hand I would not expect his much older children to wait until their 70s if he died and I carried on another 20+ years. On the other hand I am also not going to invest my time and money in setting up and paying my share for costs of living in a home with him for them to then be able to turf me out in my mid 80s. That’s cruel and insane BUT legally, I don’t think your dad has any rights here as they didn’t set up paperwork around their arrangements. So you’ll have to work out what he’s got and what his plans are.

HOWEVER. It sounds like you don’t have a relationship with them at all, so why is this your responsibility in the first place?

rainingsnoring · 27/07/2025 19:18

Digdongdoo · 27/07/2025 16:38

Of course they've discussed it before. I imagine he didn't much like the thought of it and assumed she would change her mind. But that isn't her responsibility.
I do not buy for a second that he has been completely blindsided. And if he has, what an idiot.

You are just assuming that they have discussed it. What is actually written by the person who actually understands the situation and had the relevant conversation is that the father was told a few weeks ago. As I said before, some people are too trusting and naive. Other people are too mercenary and suspicious. This is likely to apply to this scenario to some extent at least.

NorthXNorthWest · 28/07/2025 00:21

rainingsnoring · 27/07/2025 19:18

You are just assuming that they have discussed it. What is actually written by the person who actually understands the situation and had the relevant conversation is that the father was told a few weeks ago. As I said before, some people are too trusting and naive. Other people are too mercenary and suspicious. This is likely to apply to this scenario to some extent at least.

His partner is not his mother. He is supposed to make plans for his retirement with or without his partner.

NorthXNorthWest · 28/07/2025 00:26

NorthXNorthWest · 28/07/2025 00:21

His partner is not his mother. He is supposed to make plans for his retirement with or without his partner.

He is consistent though.Deadbeat dad, deadbeat partner.

TheignT · 28/07/2025 08:10

NorthXNorthWest · 28/07/2025 00:26

He is consistent though.Deadbeat dad, deadbeat partner.

Yes being her carer, doing DIY on her house, paying towards stuff. Yes total deadbeat.

NorthXNorthWest · 28/07/2025 09:48

TheignT · 28/07/2025 08:10

Yes being her carer, doing DIY on her house, paying towards stuff. Yes total deadbeat.

Who knows if the motives behind caring were love, a great excuse to give up work early or a last ditch effort to do something which might help him in a claim against the estate.

Good deeds are not exclusive to good people. Who knows what lengths a man who is happy to cast aside his family is prepared to go to.

mylovedoesitgood · 28/07/2025 10:24

Who knows what lengths a man who is happy to cast aside his family is prepared to go to.

Alternatively, I can argue that the step mum may have used him as an unpaid carer to save money and as a source of income for “bills, holidays etc”. I don’t think this would be a reach now she’s decided to effectively put him out on the streets.

Poodleville · 28/07/2025 10:28

I ask this with sensitivity, as its clear this situation has upset you: why are you so concerned about his wellbeing when he has taken so little interest in you and made this woman and her family his entire life? He is not a victim here - he has had decades to discuss this with his partner, make his own arrangements and organise his finances. This is not intended as a dig at you at all, rather a sincere question for you to ask yourself.

NorthXNorthWest · 28/07/2025 14:11

mylovedoesitgood · 28/07/2025 10:24

Who knows what lengths a man who is happy to cast aside his family is prepared to go to.

Alternatively, I can argue that the step mum may have used him as an unpaid carer to save money and as a source of income for “bills, holidays etc”. I don’t think this would be a reach now she’s decided to effectively put him out on the streets.

His partner waited 20+ years and let him live rent free so she could use him as a carer?

Okay...

Crikeyalmighty · 28/07/2025 14:40

I think posters have to be very careful about calling people deadbeat without knowing all the circumstances - there are also an awful lot of women doing either no paid work or very little even with teenage plus kids , or caring for other partners or relatives, or are in low earning jobs where they are still expected to contribute and don’t have the income to ‘save’ - do we call those deadbeats too ?? unless you know the full circumstances , you cannot really judge .

Snoken · 28/07/2025 14:57

Crikeyalmighty · 28/07/2025 14:40

I think posters have to be very careful about calling people deadbeat without knowing all the circumstances - there are also an awful lot of women doing either no paid work or very little even with teenage plus kids , or caring for other partners or relatives, or are in low earning jobs where they are still expected to contribute and don’t have the income to ‘save’ - do we call those deadbeats too ?? unless you know the full circumstances , you cannot really judge .

He is a deadbeat mainly because he stopped giving a damn about his own child once he met a new woman and decided her kids were more important than his own.

rainingsnoring · 28/07/2025 15:18

NorthXNorthWest · 28/07/2025 00:26

He is consistent though.Deadbeat dad, deadbeat partner.

How do you know that? You seem very angry with this man. Is it because you are projecting your personal experiences with men onto him. If you are, that's not fair.
He hasn't been a deadbeat partner at all, from what @Tray80 has written. Is everyone on a low income who cares for their disabled partner and is a bit naive a 'deadbeat?'. How many threads are there on here written by SAHMs who assumed that their partner would care for them? Are they all deadbeats too?
His been a deadbeat dad after he met his current partner and that is a huge failing but perhaps he has been in a controlling relationship, who knows. Certainly, his partner has behaved very cruelly towards him.

rainingsnoring · 28/07/2025 15:20

Snoken · 28/07/2025 14:57

He is a deadbeat mainly because he stopped giving a damn about his own child once he met a new woman and decided her kids were more important than his own.

He's a deadbeat dad, yes but he seems to have been a very kind and supportive partner to this woman, who is repaying his kindness by informing his daughter, whom they have both neglected for decades, that her father will be turfed out on her death so that she doesn't need to take any responsibility for him. Terrible behaviour towards both the father and daughter.

Digdongdoo · 28/07/2025 15:37

rainingsnoring · 28/07/2025 15:20

He's a deadbeat dad, yes but he seems to have been a very kind and supportive partner to this woman, who is repaying his kindness by informing his daughter, whom they have both neglected for decades, that her father will be turfed out on her death so that she doesn't need to take any responsibility for him. Terrible behaviour towards both the father and daughter.

You don't know that he's been a very kind and supportive partner. You're guessing. Even OP doesn't know, given they've apparently had very little to do with each other for 20 odd years.

rainingsnoring · 28/07/2025 15:46

Digdongdoo · 28/07/2025 15:37

You don't know that he's been a very kind and supportive partner. You're guessing. Even OP doesn't know, given they've apparently had very little to do with each other for 20 odd years.

That's why I said 'he seems to have been.....' You don't know otherwise. All we have to go on is what is written here by the OP.

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