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Dads partner leaving him homeless after her death.

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Tray80 · 24/07/2025 00:41

Appology in advance for the huge thread but mainly feel like I need to vent so here goes! My dad and his partner have been together for 26+ years, living together in her home for 22 years. Although I was close to my dad as a child, our relationship dwindled as I approached my adult years. I guess he just stopped making an effort once he met my stepmum, as they tended to spend most of their spare time with her kids and grandkids.

Even though they only live 20 mins drive away they never visited including when my babies were born. They put mine and my kids birthday/xmas cards in the post every year. We speak on the phone a couple of times a month( when I make the effort) and I call around to see them half a dozen times a year, always bearing gifts on special occasions for eg birthdays, fathers day, Xmas etc, so basically it's always me making the effort. It used to really hurt my feelings when I'd see how much effort they both made for my stepmums side of the family but after 20 years of seeing it I just learned to live with it.

For the past few years my stepmum has had a terrible run of health. My dad has retired to take care of her as she has been wheelchair bound for quite some time. Unfortunately she's now been diagnosed with cancer and has been told that there's a 50/50 chance that she may not make it through her operation next week. Needless to say the whole family is devastated, including my dad. I called to see them last week and while walking in the garden my dad broke down and told me that he doesn't know how he'll carry on living without his partner. I can tell its taken a huge toll on his health too as he's stopped eating and taking care of himself and even had a nasty fall, which is so unlike him.

Today I received a call from my stepmum. I was really shocked when her number came up on my phone as she's only rang me twice in 23 years. She told me that she wanted to talk to me while my dad was asleep. She said she wanted to lay down the ground rules of how things would play out for my dad if she was to pass away during her surgery next week. It was explained that as the house was legally hers, as it was in her name, she would be leaving it in trust to her 2 children and grandkids, meaning that if she was to pass away, then my dad would be homeless. Apparently she had explained this to my dad a few weeks previous, which timed in with the fall and his sudden run of bad health. I believe this to be due to stress as he'd just been told that in 2 weeks he could possibly be loosing the love of his life, and now also his home. I know that my dad has always been aware that the house was hers and hers only but I don't think he was expecting to be turfed out so fast. I could kind of understand the rush if my stepmums family were struggling financially but they're all very well off. I asked about my dad's financial situation, if he had a bit of a nest egg to get himself on his feet if the worse was to happen and she said that she doesn't know, as they've always kept their finances separate. She mentioned she didn't trust him to take care of the house after his fall. She added that she thinks that once she's gone my dad will probably just give up on life and not be far behind. She also pointed out that hes very lucky that hes been able to live mortgage free for 20 years.

I can't begin understand the stress she's under with the surgery loomimg and the possibility of not making it out. I really don't want to see her in a negative light as I know my dad loves her more than life itself and they both need kindness and support more than anything right now, but the conversation I had with her last night has left me with a bitter feeling. She asked me not to tell my dad that we'd had that conversation, which I will respect. I just don't understand why she'd told me at all, as it clearly wasn't out of concern for my dad but rather a concern that he wouldn't leave the house when shes gone. I feel maybe she was prepping me as she knows he'll be landing on my door step when her kids sell the house, which in turn seems like a smack in the face when neither of them have ever made any effort with me or the kids. I just keep looking at my husband and trying to put myself in her situation. Could I purposely leave my husband financially destitute? I couldn't! The other part that is bugging me is that if all goes well for her then she'll be at home being cared for once more by my dad, the same man she was turfing out on the streets if the worse was to happen. I feel as though hes just being used. I really hate feeling this bitterness about the situation and I know I'm feeling overwhelmed by it all so hoping that someone else's take may help me see it all in a different light. Am I being unreasonable in feeling like this? If you made it to the end then thanks for sticking with me!🤷‍♀️🤯

OP posts:
Blondeshavemorefun · 26/07/2025 10:25

Say she said he can live there for a year. What happens if he doesn’t move out

can her dc force him

is he like renting and landlords spend thousands trying to evict their non paying tenants ?

if he didn’t pay any rent for 20yrs before he gave up his job - what did he do with his wages @Tray80

i assuming he doesn’t have thousands in the bank

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/07/2025 10:50

Slow clap for the shoe horning of "feckless benefit claimants" into this particular thread.

As I said in my earlier comment, people and their relationships are messy, complicated, and no-one is privy to the finer details apart from the couple themselves.

It may be that for years, it has "worked" for them, and then the current situation has cropped up and being kind of, you know, life threatening and altering, the wife's underlying personality is coming to the fore. He may have been a bit naive, believing that love is all you need, but I get a sense that she has regarded him as a bit of a useful idiot, to the detriment of his relationship with his own daughter, who nonetheless is behaving like a decent human being concerned for his future.

My own SM engineered the spectacularly Jeremy Kyle style end of her marriage to my Dad after 40 years together, because he was 84, frail, slowing down and though she was 82 and also unwell she had the drive of a Duracell bunny and he could no longer keep up. He died of a broken heart in the end, and given things I've recently found out, I have no doubt she has always been manipulative and abusive. She persuaded him to move in with her although he had his own secure flat at the time to help her care for her elderly parents, and because she wanted a chauffeur and someone to squire her around. And because my Dad really loved her he sucked it up until she decided she wanted a last hurrah, and how she has achieved it has left carnage in its wake for my dear Dad, and me by extension.

So for the love of God, have a little compassion and stop the sneering and scoffing and superiority, and thank your lucky stars you or your elderly parents not in a similar position, facing your entire world and security being destroyed and questioning whether you were ever loved at all.

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 11:05

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/07/2025 10:50

Slow clap for the shoe horning of "feckless benefit claimants" into this particular thread.

As I said in my earlier comment, people and their relationships are messy, complicated, and no-one is privy to the finer details apart from the couple themselves.

It may be that for years, it has "worked" for them, and then the current situation has cropped up and being kind of, you know, life threatening and altering, the wife's underlying personality is coming to the fore. He may have been a bit naive, believing that love is all you need, but I get a sense that she has regarded him as a bit of a useful idiot, to the detriment of his relationship with his own daughter, who nonetheless is behaving like a decent human being concerned for his future.

My own SM engineered the spectacularly Jeremy Kyle style end of her marriage to my Dad after 40 years together, because he was 84, frail, slowing down and though she was 82 and also unwell she had the drive of a Duracell bunny and he could no longer keep up. He died of a broken heart in the end, and given things I've recently found out, I have no doubt she has always been manipulative and abusive. She persuaded him to move in with her although he had his own secure flat at the time to help her care for her elderly parents, and because she wanted a chauffeur and someone to squire her around. And because my Dad really loved her he sucked it up until she decided she wanted a last hurrah, and how she has achieved it has left carnage in its wake for my dear Dad, and me by extension.

So for the love of God, have a little compassion and stop the sneering and scoffing and superiority, and thank your lucky stars you or your elderly parents not in a similar position, facing your entire world and security being destroyed and questioning whether you were ever loved at all.

A man that abandoned his children to live rent free in another woman's house is not a victim. Nor should he be entitled to her assets, caring provided or not. He had 20+ years to prepare a safety net.

mylovedoesitgood · 26/07/2025 11:16

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/07/2025 10:25

Say she said he can live there for a year. What happens if he doesn’t move out

can her dc force him

is he like renting and landlords spend thousands trying to evict their non paying tenants ?

if he didn’t pay any rent for 20yrs before he gave up his job - what did he do with his wages @Tray80

i assuming he doesn’t have thousands in the bank

OP said he paid for “bills, holidays etc”.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/07/2025 11:28

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 11:05

A man that abandoned his children to live rent free in another woman's house is not a victim. Nor should he be entitled to her assets, caring provided or not. He had 20+ years to prepare a safety net.

I don't know many people in what they believe to be loving committed relationships who ever imagine or plan for circumstances like this. Living one's life with an undercurrent of "they might fuck me over so I'll plan for that" makes it a rather soulless exercise. It's horrendous having to start from scratch in one's twilight years. The combination of the emotional toll plus the practical considerations are enough to destroy a person.

Mind you don't fall off that high horse.

Digdongdoo · 26/07/2025 11:32

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/07/2025 11:28

I don't know many people in what they believe to be loving committed relationships who ever imagine or plan for circumstances like this. Living one's life with an undercurrent of "they might fuck me over so I'll plan for that" makes it a rather soulless exercise. It's horrendous having to start from scratch in one's twilight years. The combination of the emotional toll plus the practical considerations are enough to destroy a person.

Mind you don't fall off that high horse.

You really don't think mature couples with assets predating the relationship plan for this stuff? Of course they do. Or they should anyway. It's very stupid to just blindly assume you will be given a house your partner (not spouse, there is a difference) had before they met you.

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 11:33

"they might fuck me over so I'll plan for that"

Every sensible person protects their assets and those of their children. Especially if they predate their new relationship. Financial prudence doesn't sit on a high horse, it has its feet firmly placed on the ground.

Bellyblueboy · 26/07/2025 11:44

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/07/2025 11:28

I don't know many people in what they believe to be loving committed relationships who ever imagine or plan for circumstances like this. Living one's life with an undercurrent of "they might fuck me over so I'll plan for that" makes it a rather soulless exercise. It's horrendous having to start from scratch in one's twilight years. The combination of the emotional toll plus the practical considerations are enough to destroy a person.

Mind you don't fall off that high horse.

I would hope most people don’t assume they will inherit their partner’s house over their children.

I am single.in my forties with a quite valuable home. There is no way a new partner who rocked up with no assets would ever inherit it over my family. In fact before I ever allowed anyone to move in I would take legal advise to ensure my assets are protected.

I have friends in similar positions (male and female) and they have done similar.

relationships that begin later in life are more complex. We have a lot more to lose and we know relationships don’t always work out. If you have assets it’s only sensible to protect them.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/07/2025 11:48

There's a vast difference between being "expected to be given a house" and "if I die next week you're out on your ear with no discretion" which appears to be the message being given here. That's beyond sensible financial planning and breathtakingly callous.

Digdongdoo · 26/07/2025 11:58

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/07/2025 11:48

There's a vast difference between being "expected to be given a house" and "if I die next week you're out on your ear with no discretion" which appears to be the message being given here. That's beyond sensible financial planning and breathtakingly callous.

It really is the same thing given he's known for 20 odd years that it isn't his house and they are not married.

FateAmenableToChange · 26/07/2025 12:04

He can challenge her will and trust, he is a dependent and given the long relationship and the caring and labour he has contributed I think he has a good case. You need to make reasonable financial provision for dependents and that is exactly what he is - much more so than her adult children. That he cashed in his pension to care for her will also be in his favour. Id get legal advice.

MargaretMarigold · 26/07/2025 12:05

I’m sorry I haven’t read the full thread and my knowledge is out of date. However…
When I worked for a bank many years ago and we were lending to customers with a live in partner, we would consider that they might have a ‘beneficial interest’ in the property which could prevent the bank repossessing the property if the borrower defaulted.
Things like home improvements or paying towards the mortgage would likely be considered by the courts.
It might be that your dad, whilst not being entitled to any money from the property might have acquired rights to live there after step-mother dies.
I would find a solicitor for some proper advice.

Allseeingallknowing · 26/07/2025 12:07

FateAmenableToChange · 26/07/2025 12:04

He can challenge her will and trust, he is a dependent and given the long relationship and the caring and labour he has contributed I think he has a good case. You need to make reasonable financial provision for dependents and that is exactly what he is - much more so than her adult children. That he cashed in his pension to care for her will also be in his favour. Id get legal advice.

That’s good advice, OP!

Allseeingallknowing · 26/07/2025 12:12

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 11:33

"they might fuck me over so I'll plan for that"

Every sensible person protects their assets and those of their children. Especially if they predate their new relationship. Financial prudence doesn't sit on a high horse, it has its feet firmly placed on the ground.

The point is the father is not after inheriting the assets. It’s about being acknowledged for his contribution , and a bit of consideration to his position when the partner dies.
He's cared for her, maintained the house- this would have cost the partner a lot of money if she’d had to employ carers and handymen. Whilst I don’t condone how the father has treated his own family, it can’t be denied that the partner is callous, hard hearted and doesn’t appear to care a jot about how he will manage when she dies.

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 12:13

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/07/2025 11:48

There's a vast difference between being "expected to be given a house" and "if I die next week you're out on your ear with no discretion" which appears to be the message being given here. That's beyond sensible financial planning and breathtakingly callous.

A huge difference. Unfortunately, some posters don't seem to have managed to read the OP's posts and are very black and white in their thinking. No one has suggested that the house should be given to the OP's father, just that the partner has been very cruel in the way she has dealt with him and even more so that, having neglected the OP for over two decades, while they both prioritised her children, she now thinks that she can dump responsibility on her.

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 12:14

FateAmenableToChange · 26/07/2025 12:04

He can challenge her will and trust, he is a dependent and given the long relationship and the caring and labour he has contributed I think he has a good case. You need to make reasonable financial provision for dependents and that is exactly what he is - much more so than her adult children. That he cashed in his pension to care for her will also be in his favour. Id get legal advice.

Definitely reasonable given the circumstances described.

mylovedoesitgood · 26/07/2025 12:15

Bellyblueboy · 26/07/2025 11:44

I would hope most people don’t assume they will inherit their partner’s house over their children.

I am single.in my forties with a quite valuable home. There is no way a new partner who rocked up with no assets would ever inherit it over my family. In fact before I ever allowed anyone to move in I would take legal advise to ensure my assets are protected.

I have friends in similar positions (male and female) and they have done similar.

relationships that begin later in life are more complex. We have a lot more to lose and we know relationships don’t always work out. If you have assets it’s only sensible to protect them.

You can intend all you want, but in certain circumstances - like with the scenario here - a live-in partner can make a claim on your estate, should they outlive you, as explained on this thread several times. You need proper legal advice.

Mullingar · 26/07/2025 12:16

Barrenfieldoffucks · 26/07/2025 07:16

Carer covers so much. It often covers people who don't want to work, but want to kick around at home claiming the benefits they're allowed at that point to make life easier for them.

We don't know which type he is...I suspect the latter given his general propensity for irresponsibility and low work ethic.

These were my thoughts. This man has always made decisions that benefited his irresponsible and selfish approach to life.

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 12:20

Mullingar · 26/07/2025 12:16

These were my thoughts. This man has always made decisions that benefited his irresponsible and selfish approach to life.

Such as what?

CaptainFuture · 26/07/2025 12:23

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 12:20

Such as what?

Move in with someone, pay no rent or contributions... become dependent on them= get a house and/or money?

mylovedoesitgood · 26/07/2025 12:29

CaptainFuture · 26/07/2025 12:23

Move in with someone, pay no rent or contributions... become dependent on them= get a house and/or money?

Read the posts. He contributed and is now her carer.

Mullingar · 26/07/2025 12:35

TheignT · 25/07/2025 18:26

Just what you need when the love of your life dies, pack your bags and get out. Are people all really that heartless?

Lots of people have to do this - even those married with young children - main reasons for selling houses are 'The 4 Ds' Death, Debt, Divorce, Downsizing - he (we all) could well be doing all of that at any time.

Why does a single man require a family size house for the next 20 years? Maybe her own children need deposits to get on the housing ladder themselves with their young families.

Why hasnt he got a stack of cash squirreled away having had minimal expenses for his whole life - as I said earlier his financial situation is equivalent to my young adults living at home post uni - contributions to bills, going on holiday in their first minumum wage jobs - but this is temporary and they are saving (significantly) towards a deposit. He has sat back in this situation for over a quarter of a century. Its funny how men like him are such a cliche - abandon one family financially and emotionally - latch on (ponce off) to another who are already set up financially and emotionally.....and expect to be rewarded for it. I have also seen the flip to 'carer' role in men whos careers are ending and they can claim benefits.

If this guy has a responsible bone in his body - he will surprise everyone (including his partner and DD) with his savings and investments - if he has none then we can only assume he pissed it up the wall indulging himself - and to then expect to be rewarded for this lifestyle by being awarded someone elses family home for the rest of his life is ludicrous. He will be fine - he will get an over 55 flat easily and has state and private pension just for himself with much less outgoings that if he was in the family house. Might well have a nice portfolio of stocks and shares to cash in to 'ease the pain'. I hope the DSM isnt stressed that this cocklodger is going to try to shaft her DCs and DGCs and her own wishes after her whole lifetime of providing and protecting an asset for them.

Digdongdoo · 26/07/2025 12:35

mylovedoesitgood · 26/07/2025 12:29

Read the posts. He contributed and is now her carer.

Contributing unspecified amounts towards unspecified things, and provides some unknown level of care....

ButterCrackers · 26/07/2025 12:38

It would be interesting to know if this dp has made a will himself? What does he intend to leave his dp? If he dies before his dp I wonder if her and her kids would make a claim on his estate if there’s nothing in the will for them?

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 26/07/2025 12:54

Tray80 · 24/07/2025 02:12

That's very kind of you to say! Thank you so much. Despite most of the negative replies I will carry on caring and hope for the best🙏

I think you should go over and have an open conversation with both of them. Tell them that if the worst was to happen and she did die, that you are not in a position to house your father as you don’t have the room, so she will be making him homeless. Tell her the excuses about not keeping up the property are false as clearly he keeps up the property now as well as caring for her. Is a slap in the face for him for sure but housing him is not your responsibility, especially after 20+ years of being ignored.
What are the expectations that your father has about timing etc and what has she discussed with her children.? Has he contacted social services?

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