Vaping is EVERYWHERE

[Mehmeh22]

So the kids are off on summer holidays and I am trying to find nice activities to do. Went to the cinema yesterday, and a father with her young daughter, just gets out his vape and has a puff right in front of me while we were waiting to go in.

Then today at a play centre, Im sat in the cafe and a mother gets out her vape and surreptitiously has some of the vape and the oncoming plume of smoke...in my bloody direction.

I've been in Tesco, and someone just used it casually as you like. When I mentioned it to staff, they just shrugged their shoulders....I didn't see it.

Its bad enough people inflicting others with their noisy phones, but why oh why do people do this?!! In areas where kids are playing???? I dont care that you are addicted...that is not my problem!! People who smoke are addicted and would never dream of lighting up a cig!!!

Rant over.....

No, it isn't smoke. It is vapour. They are different.

I don't vape or smoke, but my parents were dyed in the wool smokers. I know the difference between vapour and smoke a mile off.

My mother has just turned 90. She switched from cigarettes (after almost 80 years of 40+ fags a day) after a severe bout of pneumonia almost killed her 3 or 4 years ago.

We'll never get her off nicotine in afraid, but the cloud if vapour around her now is infinitely preferable to the fug of actual smoke that used to follow her around. Vaping sneakily where she shouldn't is now something my mother also does, thinking she is being subtle (it's about as subtle as a bulldozer). I do pull her up on it but she never listens and it is me on a hiding to nothing. Vapes are as far as we are going to get her and I have to appreciate that (reluctantly).

I know vapes have their controversies, and I do agree with some of those, but they do also have their uses for persuading stubborn smokers away from cigarettes.

All day every day a lot of the air you breathe in has already been in someone else's lungs. Especially if you are in indoor spaces, including your own house where your family are presumably also breathing.

I've never smoked or vaped and never will, but yes, you are sounding hysterical. Many of these threads do.

So what? Did she stop specially in order to blow it out in your face? She can vape or smoke on her bike if she wishes.

Did you call the police to get it logged? Why not?

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The use of the word ‘think’ and ? does not suggest I was outright lying, I was questioning something I hadn’t googled but had heard of. The definition of lying is not ‘asking a question of which you are not sure if the answer’. I am not adverse to learning new things, just adverse to unpleasant pedants with sticks up their bums 🙄

I was a vaper and I believe that some of the plastics in the cheap containers from refillable vapes can leach the plastic.

Also, Google tells me that propylene is used in plastics, and is present in vape liquid. So I am not deludedly off the mark..no?

I will patiently wait for the apology!

It’s definitely considered a lot less antisocial than smoking is which I think makes some vapers think it’s not antisocial at all.

I don’t like the plumes of smoke/steam/water vapour either, I realise the air contains air other people have breathed out but the direct stream from someone’s mouth into your face is quite intrusive and disgusting. Most people wouldn’t do it with a cigarette but feel it’s acceptable from a vape

I said YOU may as well fart in my face. Vapers may as well be farting from their lungs...and I agree, they have problems.

To those saying im "hysterical" because I'm sick of dealing with inconsiderate people in enclosed spaces where THEY KNOW they shouldn't be vaping is the biggest load of hyperbole I've ever read. Gawd you make me laugh!! 🤣🤣🤣

It's disgusting. They're like the adult version of a dummy 🤣

I see these vapes as pacifiers. Sane as constantly sucking water from large cups or slurping coffee continuously. We are trying to self soothe as life is shit. I don’t like vaping. Don’t like the smell and pity the people I see doing it. I do see it as a sign of weakness which I’m sure is an unpopular opinion.

People are defensive as they know it’s anti social but don’t want to stop doing it.

An aerosol is a cloud of droplets suspended in air and technically the visible cloud from a vape is an aerosol.

The visible 'steam' from a kettle is also an aerosol. Actual steam - water in its gaseous state - is not visible. Sometimes you can see a small gap between the spout of a fast boiling kettle and the visible cloud - that's the steam.

Fog is another aerosol.

Vaping is a health crisis waiting to happen me thinks.

I can't understand it. Went to a country park and whilst no one was smoking a lighted cigarette, the vaping was awful. Plus saw some empty vape canisters along the trails.

It's becoming a concern now. I don't want to breathe in your vapour exhalation.

YANBU. I hate it. I think people look like toddlers sucking dummies when they are sucking on them!' They were originally created to help people quit smoking, and were only meant for short term use, but many people just started to 'vape' for shits and giggles. Daft thing to do, and they look daft, sucking on them!

As has been said, God alone knows what the long term effects are going to be.

This is about people vaping inside, enclosed spaces, not agreeing to this, is hardly being hysterical.

The UK has the lowest rate of smoking in Europe* in large part because our public health system took a progressive attitude to vaping as a method of harm reduction. Over the course of eight years, Public Health England produced some really outstanding evidence reviews covering every aspect of vaping you could possibly think of. They also produced sensible policy recommendations and got stop smoking services on board. It's a massive shame this work does not seem to have been continued since PHE was scrapped.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/e-cigarettes-and-vaping-policy-regulation-and-guidance

Tobacco companies only got involved relatively recently. It used to be all SMEs, very often run by vapers themselves who were really happy and excited to have finally found a way to quit smoking after years of failed attempts. The Tobacco Products Directive (EU law introduced in 2016 which regulated vapes as 'tobacco products') tipped the market in the tobacco companies' favour. I don't think they started producing vapes until after the TPD.

There have been issues with disposables and marketing. Disposables are now banned and we're getting new laws around marketing. It's been illegal to sell vapes to under 18s for years. What's really needed is for trading standards to have a much bigger budget and greater enforcement powers.

*We share the lowest rate with Norway, where Snus has been popular for centuries.

Could you be anymore patronising.
There’s no comparison to standing next to someone and breathing the same air, to someone who is smoking or vaping.
As far as many of these threads being hysterical, is it just because you don’t agree, so then turn it around, the other person is just being hysterical.

Erm

'huge cloud'
'massive smoke plumes'
'smoke from your lungs'
'adult dummy'
'pacifiers'
'I saw someone with a vape on a bike today!!'
'it's like breathing in a fart'

all of those are hyperbole and hysterical. It's ridiculous.

So people are having 50x the nicotine in a day from a vape than they did from cigs.

No they're not, any more than they would be if they were wearing a patch 24/7.

Most vapers take in less nicotine than smokers. The behavioural pattern is different, the route of absorption is different, the pharmacokinetics are different.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0220300#

You used to smoke - you know what happens if you overdo it with nicotine - you feel a bit sick and you put it down.

https://www.mcsuk.org/what-you-can-do/campaigns/ban-disposable-vapes/

Thankfully from 25 June 2025 disposable vapes are now banned. The impact on the environment is horrendous.

Our local pub has just allowed it inside. As people were in the garden vaping and the entertainment were playing to no one . They've said sales have rocketed and the pub is now full. However it's full of plumes of vape 'smoke' and stinks

So what?

You’re not in any danger. There’s nothing for you to wash out, like smell on your hair or clothes. There’s nothing illegal about vaping.

I despair of the controlling fuckwits that try to patrol everyone nowadays.

They are still easily available though if you know the right places. Ds vapes ( i do not agree ) and he buys them easily.

They're food flavours so if you have an allergy you'll already be used to navigating around them.

Vaping around other people is similar to walking up to strangers and smearing peanut butter on them.

Blimey, that's a new one for the bingo card 🙃

Happy to be patronising if that's what you want to call it.

I've also said that I do actually agree with many of the objections to vapes. I've just stated that they do have their uses, if you bother to read any of my other posts. My own mother vapes after over 80 years of solid smoking and it is infinitely preferable. That's not to say that I like it, but I find it more acceptable and easier to be around her.

If that's patronising then so be it. I don't care.