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To be alarmed that he wants to move in.

647 replies

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 12:58

Maybe I'm being too territorial / selfish but I'd like some second opinions...I'd like to add from the start that no children are involved in this muddle!

Met DP about 2 years ago. He had been separated for several years at that point but he and ex-wife put off selling the house while their daughter took A levels and then went to uni locally...during this time he slept in a little annex they had in the garden...no room for doubt there as I have met and spoken to ex-wife who seems nice (but very different personality to DP) she was aware of me from the start and I have observed said annex. Their daughter has now finished her course and started a job away from home and they have just put their house on the market.

From the start DP Used to come round to see me unannounced...staying over gradually became 3 then 4 then 5 nights a week although he would go home to shower, wash clothes etc. At one point he asked if we could spend more time together and I said I'd prefer to keep it at 3 or 4 nights a week...which he ignored. Yes, at this point I should have stood my ground but pathetically, I did not. My house is tiny and I work from home. We split cooking and food costs but I found it quite tiring because possibly due to upbringing and poor boundary management I always felt in hostess mode and behaved in the way I would if a friend or relative came to stay....I love my family but I'd be exhausted if they stayed for months...and miss my own space. I've tried to explain this to him...that this setup is very different from the dynamic or sharing a home together (as I've done with previous partners).

Predictably, and here we enter territory where cocklodger comments are likely and justified, the bills went up, heating, oven on all the time etc. I'd be a little more prudent when living alone. He didn't offer any help or any little token as I would when staying with a friend. Slightly tricky as he is seldom here during the day except at weekends. I've not given him a key. He doesn't live here but spends most of his free time here amd every night.

I felt embarrassed mentioning that the bills had gone up which i did after 3 months, he did actually push back a little when I did so but then started giving me the amount by which they had increased. I felt shoddy even asking.

I'd like a break from this arrangement ...so have suggested that before we look at him moving in properly or of getting somewhere together, we perhaps spend 3 months sharing an off season rental (there are lots of holiday cottages where we live and during the winter these are no more expensive than my mortage). Our incomes are similar but I have a fairly large mortgage that takes up half of mine and DP will, in addition, be getting bank interest on his house sale money. This little break would give me a chance to see what its like to live together rather than in my home where most of the costs and upkeep naturally fall to me. As mentioned, my house is tiny...there's barely room for my belongings
Dps bank interest alone would cover most of the rental and it would only be for a few months.

He likes the idea however has stated that he doesn't want to pay for it all and will only entertain it if i pay half..instead he'd like to stay at mine, paying 400 per month (my mortgage is 3 x this).

I'm not usually tight-fisted but in this case am I, for feeling that he should really be offering to take on this responsibility, just fora few months, as I have done so for 18 months?

OP posts:
orangedream · 24/07/2025 17:17

It's a bit daft that you have to go away for a week to have a break from him. Because you know he would just demand to be let into your house if you were there?

sonjadog · 24/07/2025 17:22

So, you have to leave your own home to have a break because a man who you don't want to and officially aren't living with is there? Does that not seem crazy to you? How about he goes somewhere else for a week and you stay in the house you are paying for?

everythingthelighttouches · 24/07/2025 17:31

He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months.

Congratulations on the biggest drip feed for a very long time on mumsnet!

The thread was about your alarm that this man was going to move in.

Pages and pages of advice and time from people, all the while with you slowly explaining how he is worse each time, but seemingly not contemplating taking any action.

Then suddenly “oh, he has actually already moved in and has been here for 18 months”….

I get that you might be someone who has been abused/has no boundaries/boiled frog etc. but I don’t get why you would obfuscate the very situation you’re in to such an extent.

Olive567 · 24/07/2025 17:32

There are so many threads on here about women who are in unsatisfactory, bad or toxic relationships, and who choose to stay because of the kids or finances or marriage vows. You are in the amazing position OP, of not being bound by any of these circumstances to this man. At this point in your life, you should only be with someone who enhances your remaining time in this world, who makes your life better than it would be if you were alone. You have the FREEDOM to choose this. If you listen to your heart (not society norms etc), does this man do this for you?
I'm going through a separation now, hard won after years of raising DC and finally getting my finances in order. I absolutely cannot imagine compromising my hard won freedom for a future DP unless they reach a very high bar indeed.

CleverLemonCat · 24/07/2025 17:46

OldLobster · 24/07/2025 15:56

I know its annoying when posters failing to see obvious red flags simply won't accept wise advise....so I will say that helped by this thread, there is no way that I am going to let him live in my space for £400 or any amount that hints its for his financial gain.

Whether I end the relationship though, I can't yet say ..I know that's not the best plan..but I am simply being honest.

But OP, he is already living in your space. He barged his way into your home, and is there 7 days a week. If you continue the relationship, he will simply turn up one day in the very near future and state that his house is sold and ask for a key!

I know what it is like to be steamrollered into living with someone. That was me many years ago. I was also very passive and just allowed events to unfold around me, even though it caused me great unhappiness.

Follow your plan of getting away for a few days, and take stock once you are away from him. You may see things more clearly when you have time to breath on your own.

gamerchick · 24/07/2025 17:47

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:09

He still has baths here...but the bills increased mainly due to whacking the heating up, going through all the logs I'd stockpiled for winter in a month, dishwasher on twice a day sometimes, using food of mine for breakfast and incidental things I'd usually save for a treat, films on amazon prime, 40 pounds alone a month in coffee pods when I'd spend 10....it sounds penny pinching but quickly mounted up to.a couple of hundred pounds. If I reacted he'd say 'well, we're not students on the breadline ' making me feel tight.
He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months.

He's been living with you for a year and a half. Stealth.

If you don't act now, he's going to be there with all of his belongings very soon and you'll find it harder to get rid of him.

TwistedWonder · 24/07/2025 17:47

sonjadog · 24/07/2025 17:22

So, you have to leave your own home to have a break because a man who you don't want to and officially aren't living with is there? Does that not seem crazy to you? How about he goes somewhere else for a week and you stay in the house you are paying for?

100% - and I would guarantee he won’t say fair enough love I’ll go back to my hut in the garden while you’re away’

He will argue the toss about it and either you’ll crack and let him stay there or he’ll just let himself in and help himself to your heating, food and water because he thinks that’s his entitlement.

Seriously why are you clinging to the crumbs of a one sided relationship with a man who saw you coming and takes advantage of you constantly?

No one expects you to end it immediately but you’re talking about staying with him regardless despite the unanimous advice that he’s a freeloading twat who will bleed you dry?

No one wants you back in a couple of years saying you bought a house with your partner and he doesn’t contribute at all and you’re trapped as you sold your own home.

kissmyfatass · 24/07/2025 17:52

I’d go away for a bit. Then invite him to visit. Don’t say every day see you later. Say right so I’ll see you Wednesday:Thursday is it. Have a few days off in the week. Don’t let him come uninvited.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 24/07/2025 18:07

OldLobster · 24/07/2025 15:56

I know its annoying when posters failing to see obvious red flags simply won't accept wise advise....so I will say that helped by this thread, there is no way that I am going to let him live in my space for £400 or any amount that hints its for his financial gain.

Whether I end the relationship though, I can't yet say ..I know that's not the best plan..but I am simply being honest.

Why, though? Lots of us have asked, but you don’t seem to have responded (my apologies if you have and I missed it). Why are you staying in this relationship?

Mrsbloggz · 24/07/2025 18:18

ForZanyAquaViewer · 24/07/2025 18:07

Why, though? Lots of us have asked, but you don’t seem to have responded (my apologies if you have and I missed it). Why are you staying in this relationship?

trauma bond?

Blablibladirladada · 24/07/2025 18:26

He has exactly what he wants and if it wasn’t he would have said something?
You had your trial and he failed.

GiveDogBone · 24/07/2025 18:32

Ok, for sure £400 a month might not be enough, but equally, from his point of view, he has no financial share in the property, the equity is all yours, so if he was to pay half the costs, he’s not getting any upside from it. He’s a lodger with no rights who could be evicted tomorrow.

What would be the market rate for renting out a room to a lodger in your area? That would be the fair amount for him to pay. Anything else I can totally see that he would think he’s being taken advantage of.

Crudd99 · 24/07/2025 18:35

Hedgedone · 22/07/2025 13:12

Ffs, he's a tight fisted cheeky fxxker who has used you for 2 years.

Wake up and smell the roses.
He thinks you are a mug.
He has treated you like a mug.

Could he be any clearer what a mean man he is using you?

Agree.

friskybivalves · 24/07/2025 18:39

ForZanyAquaViewer · 24/07/2025 18:07

Why, though? Lots of us have asked, but you don’t seem to have responded (my apologies if you have and I missed it). Why are you staying in this relationship?

He might end it when his meal ticket and free accommodation run out!

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 24/07/2025 18:43

Sorry but you sound passive and walk over. This man is ready to come in, throw 400 at you and devour your whole resource

3luckystars · 24/07/2025 18:53

OldLobster · 24/07/2025 16:12

I'm hoping i will come back stronger when I've had some time away....he won't be staying in my home while I'm away either.

Great start!! Well done
.

lets see what happens , hopefully he will reveal himself when you stand up to him and you will be in no doubt what to do.

MaddestGranny · 24/07/2025 18:53

Change the locks and go away for a while.
Get a therapist to help you learn to say no, to set boundaries and to re-set your life.
Say NO.
You'll be amazed how easy it becomes, but what you need right now is some "alongside" support, hence getting a therapist, to help you learn 'how to'.

Nikki75 · 24/07/2025 19:00

He is using you in that he is onto a great thing ... dont even do the 3 month rental he is taking advantage big time op.

Buffs · 24/07/2025 19:45

NuffSaidSam · 22/07/2025 13:11

I don't think you need to do the whole rental thing, just tell him to get his own place. Make it absolutely, crystal clear that he can't stay with you, not even short term. Continue living seperately for at least another few years. Go and stay over at his place and see what that feels like, see if he looks after you like you've looked after him. You absolutely need to see what he's like living by himself first.

This is your solution. Reread your post, you have demonstrated insight regarding your situation.

OldLobster · 24/07/2025 19:48

ForZanyAquaViewer · 24/07/2025 18:07

Why, though? Lots of us have asked, but you don’t seem to have responded (my apologies if you have and I missed it). Why are you staying in this relationship?

I honestly don't know.
I suppose its tricky when a partner / friend/ even a relative treats you well for the larger part of the time and then doesn't for the minority or if there are strong elements of closeness in a relationship but someone has two sides. As soon as the bad side emerges one can comfortably think...that's it...too many negatives here and then the good side emerged again leading you to doubt your previous conviction.

OP posts:
OldLobster · 24/07/2025 19:52

But anyway..in conclusion, no way am I giving him a key to my home...so some progress thanks to the kind advice here.

OP posts:
SpinachSpinachMoreSpinach · 24/07/2025 19:56

I may be wrong, but I get the impression that you have been living for other people’s benefit for most of your life.

I don’t know how old you are (sorry if I missed it), but I would guess you are middle aged or older?

Now is the time to (cliche alert!!) live your best life!

In what way does he facilitate this? Or does he just throw spanner’s in the work…

Nanny0gg · 24/07/2025 19:56

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 14:49

I suppose in his defence, he may feel he doesn't live with me which is why he didnt offer to contribute...despite being here most of the time as he has still been paying his share of bills on his own property and has all his things in the cabin thing at his house.

But aside from that..if I was in his position I'd definitely offer to take the weight off my 'host' after 18 months of benefitting by treating them to a few months break from it to see how things went.

Oh come on.

He's been moving in by stealth.

CanOfMangoTango · 24/07/2025 19:59

Actually, just go ahead and buy a dog. Let it sleep on his side of the bed

Do it do it do it do it!

Problem solved 😂

Beachtastic · 24/07/2025 20:01

OldLobster · 24/07/2025 19:48

I honestly don't know.
I suppose its tricky when a partner / friend/ even a relative treats you well for the larger part of the time and then doesn't for the minority or if there are strong elements of closeness in a relationship but someone has two sides. As soon as the bad side emerges one can comfortably think...that's it...too many negatives here and then the good side emerged again leading you to doubt your previous conviction.

Guess what OP, it is possible to be in a relationship with someone that doesn't have a dark side where you find yourself praying for the good side to emerge again so that everything feels all right again. As I discovered to my astonishment after HALF A CENTURY of being stuffed over in just the same way as you, there are actually kind, loving, decent men in the world who want to make you happy because you deserve it and they know that and appreciate you in all aspects! I know, mad isn't it!

I wish I'd known that from the beginning and I would have saved myself a LOT of heartache, misery and financial ruin.

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