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Not invited to DSis big birthday

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50FreezeOut1 · 19/07/2025 22:42

My DSis turned 50 yesterday and I've found out today she had a birthday meal out with her friends, my siblings and our parents.

AIBU to be upset at not being invited?

Photos look to be about 10 friends plus DB (no partner at the moment) and DSis+DBIL. Plus DB's son and DSis daughter and son. Plus DM and DF. Plus DSis50 and DBIL and their DDs.

This came as a complete surprise. We caught up at May half term and hung out for a weekend, DSis50, her family and mine. A month or so ago I messaged my siblings to arrange a joint 50th gift which cost me a considerable amount of time and effort. No one mentioned it to me at all.

The reason I'm posting is because I'd like some advice about what I do next. The photos aren't attempting to hide the meal out. Of course I would see them. I'm seeing my DM on Monday to spend the first day of the school holidays together. Do I say something? What do I say to my siblings in our WhatsApp group? Anything? Nothing?

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Strawberrri · 20/07/2025 21:06

^^this is a good suggestion - but I would do whatever you feel you need to do - or do nothing, whatever suits you best - how easy is it to not see them much at all in the future, that will affect your decision - this was a nasty thing of them to do imv.

Weepixie · 20/07/2025 21:06

I would put something short on the group chat along the lines of, seen the fb photos of dsis 50th, would have loved to have been there to celebrate, whats the reason for not inviting me? It’s very upsetting!

Op I’d go with something like the above but I wouldn’t say I was upset as it will only give them some power over you whilst making you look weak.

Finish anything you say to them with - what’s the reason for not inviting me.

WhiteWriting · 20/07/2025 21:08

They are a bunch of cunts. Sorry this happened to you.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 20/07/2025 21:09

Everything else aside, @50FreezeOut1, your parents and siblings are just plain ill-mannered. How rude they have been and are being, to leave you out like that, with no apparent reason. No couth at all.
Where is your father in all this? And was your aunt there this time? Could you ring her now and ask her what she thinks is going on?

Easipeelerie · 20/07/2025 21:17

I’d use the ‘let them’ philosophy. They’re doing what they want and there’s nothing you can do to stop them, but you can alter what you do yourself. I would stop seeing any of them including your mum tho make an exception for the aunt.
Not only are you dealing with this current very blatant exclusion, you’ve also had to deal with years of rejection and learnt to mask your feelings to make yourself palatable to them. It’s shocking you’ve had to do this whilst they’ve not even come close to doing similar.
None of them deserve a second more of your time. Block them all.

TheaBrandt1 · 20/07/2025 21:19

Maybe they perceive you as judgemental and self righteous. Your choice not to “follow the money” as they did but to do a worthy vocational career may grate and make them think you are judging them so they see you as a buzz kill. Not saying this is fair or reasonable in any way but from your overview that’s the only explanation I can draw.

Steelworks · 20/07/2025 21:21

Have you had a chance to speak to your family yet? I wouldn’t let it go. I had a friend who ghosted me twenty years ago. I don’t know why. I still wonder why.

50FreezeOut1 · 20/07/2025 21:22

@Calliopespa I think you've hit the nail on the head. Again!

From your update, it strikes me that the reason you get excluded could be you have a less high-powered job, simpler lifestyle, less income and vote Labour. In other words, maybe they are just snobs.😶

I've always known my DM was a snob when she had nothing to boast about regarding my career and her sister had to ask me what I actually did because DM was - not necessarily secretive - but not forthcoming. But I think you're absolutely right. My siblings are snobs and they have decided we have nothing in common and they'll just write me out of things. Perhaps Sis50 would have been embarrassed to introduce me to the friends who came to the meal 😂

I've been to plenty of her parties in the past and her friends even friend requested me on Facebook because we got on so well. But I didn't recognise many of the friends in the meal photos. Maybe she's 'upgraded' her friend set and I'm NFI!

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Dymaxion · 20/07/2025 21:23

Out of interest where are you age wise in comparison to your Sister, younger or older ?
Happy people don't pull this sort of shit, I do wonder if she is hitting menopause and has bright young things snapping at her heels professionally and you being the useful and normal scapegoat are taking the hit for her feelings of inadequacy ?

50FreezeOut1 · 20/07/2025 21:25

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 20/07/2025 21:09

Everything else aside, @50FreezeOut1, your parents and siblings are just plain ill-mannered. How rude they have been and are being, to leave you out like that, with no apparent reason. No couth at all.
Where is your father in all this? And was your aunt there this time? Could you ring her now and ask her what she thinks is going on?

My DF goes along with things for a quiet life, hence managing to stay married to my narc DM. But I think I will ask him this week for his take on things. He is usually the voice of reason of anyone bothers to ask him.

I'm seeing my DA in a couple of weeks so would rather do it face to face. She wasn't there but I know she was on holiday with her kids and grandkids.

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Wall810 · 20/07/2025 21:28

I would have contacted her immediately by telephone after seeing the photos and asked for an explanation rather than ‘stewing’ over it.

Searchingforananswer2023 · 20/07/2025 21:28

Pipsquiggle · 20/07/2025 07:25

@50FreezeOut1 what would you like the outcome of this to be?
Ongoing to be invited to all big family events?
Them to acknowledge that they've behaved poorly?

I live away from the rest of my family (about 3 and a half hours), I don't get invited to Sunday lunches etc but I do get invited to big events/birthdays. Less than an hour away is nothing.

Are your family one of those that unless you live around the corner they think it's too much of an effort for you to make it? I do know families like this who essentially think that moving further away they no longer feel the need to include that family member.

In which case, you are going to have to make it clear to ALL of them that of course you would have come to the 50th birthday lunch. That an hour away is not that far. That being excluded has made you feel very sad as you love them and want to be included particularly for birthdays.

Personally I would meet your mum and ask how the birthday lunch was and I would ask her why she thinks you weren't invited. See if it is the above.

If you can ring them all individually, I would. If not I would write on the family WhatsApp 2 messages.
1 saying hope you all had a lovely lunch out and that DSIs had a great birthday.

The second outlining:
Dear family, I was really upset to not be invited to the birthday lunch, I know I live slightly further away but I always would prioritise my family's birthdays / celebrations. Ongoing please could I be invited. If I have done something that has offended you, please let me know as at the moment I have no idea why I wouldn't be invited. I love you all and would like to be invited to family birthdays / events. I may not be able to attend them all but I will try to make it work. Lots of love.......

No to this course of action, far to chummy when they have ostracised her.

50FreezeOut1 · 20/07/2025 21:28

Dymaxion · 20/07/2025 21:23

Out of interest where are you age wise in comparison to your Sister, younger or older ?
Happy people don't pull this sort of shit, I do wonder if she is hitting menopause and has bright young things snapping at her heels professionally and you being the useful and normal scapegoat are taking the hit for her feelings of inadequacy ?

I'm the youngest but we're really close in age between all of us. I'm not sure Sis50 has an inadequacy complex. Probably the opposite. But having not worked with her professionally we can often be different from how we are with close family and friends. I do get the sense she isn't entirely happy because once she's had a drink she's a terrible gossip. Perhaps it's me she's been bitching about and she's talked herself into dropping me.

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1543click · 20/07/2025 21:33

I actually think it's strange you didn't get straight onto whatsap and ask them straight why you weren't included. That fact in itself says something about your relationship with them I think. There's no way my family would leave something like this unquestioned .

Calliopespa · 20/07/2025 21:35

Searchingforananswer2023 · 20/07/2025 21:28

No to this course of action, far to chummy when they have ostracised her.

I'm afraid I agree.

I'd keep it short and simple: I'd just like to know why, especially as it happened at Mum's party too. I'm not going to push to come, I just want to know what the thinking is.

No need to apologise or express desire to be involved - or to break the connection such as it is. Just ask why.

Its a reasonable question - after all, we're all wondering - and we're not even op!

Feelingleftoutagain · 20/07/2025 21:38

I feel for you, I've had years of this behaviour, only once have i been invited to a birthday meal (my mum's 79th) to find out it was so that I would pay towards the party they were hoping to have for her 80th, she died before this could happen! When they all had a party, at my mums years before she died I asked my mum why wasnt I invited, was told that no one in my family liked me and had said if I attended they wouldn't go, she said face facts you are not a nice person. I went home and cried buckets to my hubby who said this: you can't choose your family but, we have two beautiful boys who never had to face the nastiness that comes from that side of the family, they both worship you ( and they do) you have worked hard put yourself through Uni whilst working and raising children, you have a wonderful home, you don't act you are you and we are not having this happen to you again and we shut the door on them for 20 odd years until my mums 79th and I wish I'd not gone then as they made it very obvious I wasn't welcome, so I am saying this to you shut the door on them, life is too short for crap like that!

TheTecknician · 20/07/2025 21:41

Perhaps this second incident of social exclusion is an example of serendipity. You may not have wanted this but you needed it to see the shower of shit your family really are - with some obvious exceptions. If there is any possible justification for their conduct then we aren't aware of it - and nor are you. Time to distance yourself from these people. Life is too short to be treading on eggshells around wankers.

Rhaidimiddim · 20/07/2025 21:41

Horses7 · 20/07/2025 01:24

Agree with this - your sister has been pretty awful to you and the rest of your family have gone along with it - so no one has said anything like ‘‘where were you Saturday night’ or ‘we missed you’ ?
Think I’d give them all a wide berth for a bit, actually a long time.
Unforgivable really - I would be devastated tbh.

I agree with this approach too.
You have a right to be hurt.
So what if the family gets blown up, now that you know that the alternative is that it stays not-blown-up-but-regularly-shitting-on-you?

ResultsMayVary · 20/07/2025 21:41

Sometimes people experience other people's choices as a criticism of theirs. Perhaps they feel more self conscious when you are there purely because you've chosen a different path and hold different values. So it's not that they don't like you as such.

Do you feel you can just relax and be yourself with them or are you also censoring yourself or trying hard to please or fit in?

thelakeisle · 20/07/2025 21:42

I agree that you should just never make the tiniest effort to see or speak to them again. I would not be contacting any of them. If any of them attempt to apologise or explain that would be the time to respond to them, very carefully and consisely if you so choose.

What they have done is pretty disgusting tbh. Clearly, it is deliberate, and driven by at least one of them - but the others are disgusting too, there is no way I could do that to one of my family unless they had done something truly awful.

They are happy to make you feel like shit. and in fact want to torture you. I cannot imagine the level of distress and shock you must have felt, seeing them rub your face in your very deliberate exclusion. This is what being nice to people who are not nice to you leads to, time to just cut them off without a word.

And it's not passive aggressive or anything else to cut abusers out of your lif, it's just a good way to deal with such cruelty. Any question you ask will get you blame and recriminations anyway, so ask nothing.

They are expecting you to be upset, ask questions, but ultimately keep tolerating that, because that is what you have always done. But you are not their punching bag, so don't volunteer for that position anymore.

Katrinawaves · 20/07/2025 21:43

Feelingleftoutagain · 20/07/2025 21:38

I feel for you, I've had years of this behaviour, only once have i been invited to a birthday meal (my mum's 79th) to find out it was so that I would pay towards the party they were hoping to have for her 80th, she died before this could happen! When they all had a party, at my mums years before she died I asked my mum why wasnt I invited, was told that no one in my family liked me and had said if I attended they wouldn't go, she said face facts you are not a nice person. I went home and cried buckets to my hubby who said this: you can't choose your family but, we have two beautiful boys who never had to face the nastiness that comes from that side of the family, they both worship you ( and they do) you have worked hard put yourself through Uni whilst working and raising children, you have a wonderful home, you don't act you are you and we are not having this happen to you again and we shut the door on them for 20 odd years until my mums 79th and I wish I'd not gone then as they made it very obvious I wasn't welcome, so I am saying this to you shut the door on them, life is too short for crap like that!

What a fabulous (and very wise) husband you have!

Laura95167 · 20/07/2025 21:43

Id just ask. Dsis directly in an attempt to get honesty or DM if I wanted to play it politically

But either way id say - how come i wasn't invited to the birthday meal?

I certainly wouldn't feel better isolating myself further and secretly huffing. Id absolutely need to know

SpryCat · 20/07/2025 21:45

It was your DM who started the competition when you were all children, who can please her the most. She is the Queen Bee, the one your siblings try to live up to her expectations, they wouldn’t exclude you unless she wanted it that way.
GC get rated same as their parents, so your DC will be classed as scapegoats too, the poor relations.
Maybe it was how your mum and her siblings were treated in childhood, by her own parents or she likes to cause division and have everyone fight over her.
You sound very happy with your career, your little family and lots of friends, whilst your siblings are all frantically running on a hamster wheel, all trying to be good enough, and competing to be loved.
I bet you are the only one, who is truly content with your life!
I wouldn’t bother saying anything, I would delete WhatsApp, don’t bother with cards or presents and start distancing yourself.

ThePoshUns · 20/07/2025 21:46

Agree. I’d pick up the phone and ask her straight why you weren’t invited. All
this creeping around the edges doesn’t help you.

Rhaidimiddim · 20/07/2025 21:50

50FreezeOut1 · 20/07/2025 19:48

Thank you to everyone who has shared their perspective. The questions asked are really helping me to see what it could be. I've taken a long time to reply because I wanted to read lots of people's views before responding. Sometimes on these threads everyone says the same thing on the first couple of pages then different perspectives come through later that can shed different light on the issue. Also I have been out for the day with the DC and didn't want to read the thread whilst with them because it would bring the reality of the situation back to me and make me not very good company.

Answering some questions:

No I don't have a drink problem. I drink the least but not in a judgemental of their drinking way.

We're all full siblings and our DPs are still together.

We live close enough to drive there and drive back in an evening. DH always offers to drive so I can drink with them.

I'm really accommodating with meeting when and where suits them. When the DC were little I gave parameters because of naps but otherwise would make it work.

There is a wealth gap with me the poorest. I chose a vocational career which I absolutely love. They chose corporate highly paid highly stressful roles (although are very senior now so less stress in a way). I'm not bothered that they earn more than me because I made the choice to be happy at work rather than earn a lot. I know you can have both but the corporate career I started in was relentless so over a decade ago I switched out into non corporate and have never regretted it.

Looking particularly at @WhereYouLeftIt explanation. I am the black sheep/scapegoat and have been since I was a child. But I worked really hard at not being controversial or hard work. Hence I now have lots of friends. I'm consciously that nice new version around them because I am acutely self aware.

I feel disappointed rather than angry about this. I'm upset because I don't know what I've done wrong because if I knew I definitely wouldn't have done it or if I knew I would apologise for it.

I'm not more successful in comparison to them. I'd go so far as to say my DM has been embarrassed about my comparative lack of boast-able success in the past. I'm doing what I love, find meaning in my work and can afford a 'normal' lifestyle. By that I mean a mortgaged house, long term doer-upper, bog standard car, 1 foreign holiday a year in a European destination - all different from my new Tesla owning, multiple foreign holiday going, mortgage free siblings. But I'm genuinely not envious because I don't want to do what they do for a living to earn the kind of money you need for those things.

I lived two hours away for a couple of years in my 20s but deliberately moved closer once my Sisters starting having kids so I could be nearby for every family event. In the 20+ years since I have never opted out of one for any reason other than simply not being available e.g. holidays, important prior engagements. I've always bent over backwards to accommodate them and DH fell into line with that when I met him. It was taken as read that's what I needed/wanted to do.

I decided to cancel my Monday with my DM. The weather isn't looking great so I've blamed it on that and suggested other dates later in the holidays to buy me time to decide what to do.

With regards 'there must be more to this. What are you hiding?' please do ask me any direct questions about what might have happened in the past or things I may or may not have done. If there was something obvious to me e.g. my political views then I would include it to help people help me make sense of it. But as I say, I am very aware that there are topics to avoid so I do.

I'm not vegan or over/underweight. I'm neither beautiful nor successful. I have 2 wonderful DC 1DS and 1DD. They are easy to get on with when they come to family events. They are interesting and interested (early teens). I knew DH was the one for me because he was the first of my boyfriends to really get on with my friends and family without any awkwardness. He's easy going and remembers things about people and asks them e.g. how their ski trip was.

I get on particularly well with my DM's Sis who I'm meeting with my DC over the holidays. She was there at the DM 'spontaneous' lunch when I was excluded and afterwards apologised on behalf of everyone who was there and didn't think to invite me. It wasn't necessarily her apology to make per se but I really appreciated that someone there saw it was wrong and apologised that it had happened. That validated my hurt that time.

My Bro missed a Christmas get together last Christmas because of a last minute holiday with his then partner. Sis50 was really annoyed with him not being there for an event she'd organised. But there he was at her 50th not me! (Who was there at Christmas).

This point by @Calliopespa is really helpful in helping me understand the situation more clearly.

I'm sorry but for some reason they don't like having you there - and the feeling is not limited to your Dsis. None of us can say if its justified or not from what we know, but the fact it isn't just your Dsis and the fact they don't enjoy you being at these functions is plain.

You are right. They don't want me there. Which helps make my decision not to be there in future. Knowing they feel this about me would mean I would no longer enjoy it. And knowing they would enjoy it more if I wasn't there makes things so clear. Thank you.

Youbsay you are the black sheep/ scapegoat.

That is all the answer you need - your role is to be picked on and upset by them. When you remonstrate, they bully you a bit more.

Your choice is to continue to play into the dynamic by acting like a good sister then being excluded; or to change the dynamic by pulling away from them and caring less - a lot less - about them. You can't change them, you can only change yourself.

And expect to receive a pittance in the Will.

(Ex scapegoat here.)

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