Thread 8: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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Well, this has turned out to be slightly longer than the dozen or so replies I expected when I started the first thread!

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

2nd Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

3rd Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

4th Observer
‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting.

To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with possible visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail.

We have done amazingly well together - in the main that is, not mentioning any names but you know who you are! - for seven threads so far. I can't be on the threads as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion ticking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path. Thank you.

It’s the Bear Grylls Redemption Path a high-profile first interview where, ashen-faced, they hold hands and break down in uncontrollable sobs, admitting some of their past malfeasances and recounting how trapped they became in a literary cage of their own making, blessed along the way by the capricious finger of success beyond their wildest dreams.

"We’ve never been religious, but on that walk confronting our own failures and past demons that we were fleeing from we also sensed that God was walking alongside us. And here we are.

We are human, all too human…please if you can find it in your hearts to forgive us. "

All three hug as a setting Cornish sun dips below the headland.

I’m listening to SalRay read Landlines - quite enjoying it on the whole - and there are some moments worth sharing. I can’t quote verbatim, as I’m just listening and trying to remember as I go, but in the Pennine Way section we get:

• SalRay is with Julie (a counsellor) and reflects that she’s never had therapy because counsellors just ask “so many questions”.

Yes, I can see that would be a concern.

• SalRay speaks about the threat of second home owners and what second homes do to the economy/village life.

Presumably just in England.

• SalRay - in Yorkshire, where people are “plain speaking”, reminisces about the wisdom of her Dad who would tell her to just use a few words rather than over embellish.

Could have been useful advice for the rebuttal.
😊

The rewilding thing has more holes in it than any other part of the story tbh. It takes years to rewild properly. We've sort of rewilded a meadow in a haphazard way, but started in 2019. And it's only a third of an acre. And I definitely attach the prefix 'sort of' to our efforts. RayMoth did it in what? Two years? Right.

I am very surprised that Rick Stein's bunch weren't onto them over that and the cider making enterprise. But sometimes people (and producers and researchers and publishers) hear what they want to hear I think. It makes for an easy life.

The movie has just appeared on nefarious file sharing sites that I have acess to so in the spirit of the dynamic duo I'm nicking it. 4k as well do it in style !

Agree; ultimately why on earth would an innocent person take out a loan of 90k at an extortionate interest rate, to pay back money they hadn’t taken?

surely a book keeper who was just incompetent (not dishonest) would sooner pay out of their own pocket if necessary, for an independent person to go through the finances of the last few years to track down how tens of thousands of pounds had gone missing? To jump straight to taking out a massive loan and wanting an NDA in place absolutely screams guilty and trying to find a solution at all costs rather than get a criminal conviction and a sentence.

Bear Grylls could even perform a cleansing of sins and rebirth baptism by dunking Raymoth in a local river.

Happy to fill a polymath correspondent position to cover any gaps in journalism/historical research/geneology/long distance walking.

He did it for Rusell Brand - all they have to do is fake sincerity with him and they're in. Just started to watch my admittedly nicked movie it's a BBC Film !

Sorry to unleash my inner pedant (tbf it lurks not far from the surface at the best of times) but I think that superb review was by Walter Kerr.

Oops yes! I was convinced it was DP, thank you.

Oh dear, mistakes were made... 😂

I've got to say, you've ruined the movie for me the ghosts of the lies are flickering at every turn. I’ve seen Moth yelling at Cooper outside the court, the dodgy teabag at the cream teas, where Gillian smears copious amounts of free butter onto a scone, and Moth limping along. And as a festival camper myself, they seem to have a ludicrously small amount of kit.

What really throws you is that there’s no indication at the start of the movie that this is based on a true story or anything like that it plays as pure fiction if you didn't know the story. And it seems like an utterly bonkers idea, which I suppose is its brilliance you couldn’t make it up.

The cinematography is stunning, though I may stay for that.

I’ve just got to the eviction scene, where she sees the book highlighted in a shaft of sunlight as they hide under an admittedly large box room beneath the stairs…

He seems hapless, she seems devoted both are insufferable.

sualipa is going to need a dunking from Bear Grylls.

It reminds me of the film 'Fargo'. At the start some text comes up that says it's based on a true story, which absolutely influenced me while watching it. I'd think, 'Well, that's not very plausible', and then think, 'But it's based on a true story! It must have really happened that way!' But apparently while it was being made, one of the actors asked the Coen brothers what story it was based on, since they couldn't find anything about it online, and the Coen brothers were like, 'Oh, we just said that. We made the whole thing up.' 😁 We give a lot more latitude to stories when we think they're true -- fiction has to make more sense than real life.

And now I'm thinking how I'd handle it in a novel...I reckon I'd keep the theft in, and have it that she stole the money because of Tim's diagnosis, because they were desperate to go private and get him the very best care to try and save his life. Cue violins! We're on her side now 'cause she did it All For Love. Plus of course we'd make her boss a total asshole.

Hope you are eating either Pot Noodle or Fudge bars while you endure watch it.

the book highlighted in a shaft of sunlight

Is that meant to be a punishment or a reward for getting through it?

Up pops our Fudge Correspondent, reporting for duty.

31 minutes in - it sort of draws you in but they both have a weird acting style that seems contrived possibly to mimic "normal" - but SW is weirdly "wonky" and no doubt GA was trying to channel that.

It is her rebirth from a life of crime.

😂😂😂😂.

I wouldn't mind being dunked by Bear but don't want to have to endure watching this dilge for the privilege.

I am waiting for Penguin to get the blame somehow. I am sure RayMoth are working on a way to spin it so that they 'tried' to tell their true story, but Penguin persuaded them to massage the tale to make it sound more appealing to the masses. RayMoth would, naturally, have wanted to tell the unembellished truth but those wicked marketing people at Penguin made them swear to keep anything less than marketable quiet.

RayMoth would, naturally, have wanted to tell the unembellished truth but those wicked marketing people at Penguin made them swear to keep anything less than marketable quiet.

Either that or "we didn't lie about xyz but nobody at Penguin asked us about it. If they had of done then we'd have told the truth. Honest guv.

Well it’ll be interesting to watch what happens next.
SW has tried to put the main focus on Moth’s illness presumably to try to garner sympathy (‘how could anyone dare to doubt a terminal illness?’) and has glossed over the embezzlement as ‘having a hard time,’ and ‘making mistakes’. Who knows what angle she might try next, but we’re all here for it!