One million immigrants claiming benefits

[AnxiousApocalypse]

Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

what things exactly? Be precise, don't just use dog whistle islamophobia

What is actually happening? What has happened in your area? I don’t mean extremist idiots posting videos on Twitter. What are the tangible changes happening, so I can look out for them?

Have a look, ask questions about why. I had men in my life of the faith who looked down on me and I didn’t understand why. I’m pretty awesome. They also looked down on their own female children.

i did some research and found that some feel woman are less than. It made me sad. Deep dive, other prejudices.

i don’t believe that complaining about other less tolerant folk hating you for your culture is hate speech. And whilst nothing is universally true, I believe that enough believe it for me to feel sad.

I’m done with this. Sorry.

I’m a nice person with moderate views who gets upset when kids are exploited.

I feel as though justice and reason is having a hiatus and I’m looking forward to it returning. Also blown away that my twitter algorithm is actually screwed and no one else sees what I see or everyone would be up in arms.

The things that keep happening, the videos that I see are real people speaking their own truth, it’s very scary. No matter how few in number there are people who wish us harm and they seem to have commonality

Do you mean Yaxley-Lennon and his acolytes? I agree. Scary, violent criminals.

Ableism is no better than xenophobia. You are simply swapping scapegoats.

Funnily enough, a lot of people who live in those countries are also fearful. Women in Afghanistan, Iran and Somalia fa e this reality and yet our country offers no safe route of asylum, so they feel forced to take drastic measures like travelling on small boats.

Does anyone remember Brexit…. vote reform you can wave goodbye to the NHS.

Farage hasn’t said HOW he plans to stop the boats and in truth he won’t be able to!

We’ve always had Labour throwing money around, then the cons come in and make cutbacks. Starmer doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing… it’s all a mess.

So he’s lived here and worked for 20 years and gave up work two years ago?

I am not after fan girls.

I also don't hate people of different nationalities

It comes and goes like the tides.

It comes from up high and a lot of you believe it and clutch your pearls and wail about what they're doing to this country. It's front page news every few days for a few years.

I've noticed the Irish, single mothers, white van men, Muslims, eastern Europeans, the disabled and now all immigrants.

Anyone that they can get the middle classes to look down on and be united in their horror of. It seems to work better if the villified usually come from lower socio-economic groups.

I'm much more interested in who drives this discourse rather than the groups that are villified.

Exactly. I just looked up the article and its foreign born people, 700,000 of whom were from the EU and came to the UK before Brexit. Lots of people on here just assuming without the slightest bit of research that this means asylum seekers and dragging out their tired, ill informed racist rhetoric. And isn’t Universal Credit a means-tested working benefit anyway? So that means the claimants are not being paid enough to live on.
If commenters actually got curious and started asking why millions of working people in the UK - foreign born or not - are paid so poorly by their employers that their wages do not cover essentials they might come to the conclusion that it’s the system and greedy companies to blame not the individuals.

The biggest threat from extremist Muslims is to ordinary Muslims in their own countries

That does not mean we have to import it here and suck up the extremists, woman haters, child abusers etc that come here. I don't care where you come from, if you behave like that, I want you out, and there is NOTHING wrong with people feeling that way.

What are you seeing? Twitter is a cesspit to be honest and there’s a lot of fake information.

Cool, I want them all housed directly next to you

If he’s lived here for 20 years he’s probably become a citizen and so is entitled to benefits that any British citizen gets.
I don’t know his circumstances and whether he’s honest. But over the years I’ve known of several white, British-born citizens gaming the system.

Although note (their bold);

Ethnicity statistics
Universal Credit claimants are asked to answer optional equality questions when making their claim.
In January 2025, 75.8% of Universal Credit claimants had provided information on their high-level ethnic group (5 options) or sub-group (18 options). Therefore, Universal Credit ethnicity statistics should be treated with caution due to a degree of non-completion...

I read that the PM there had brought in 1.5 million immigrants in the last couple of years despite promising not to, and the housing crisis is out of hand with houses that cost 250000 ten years ago now selling for a million AUD. Simply because Aus is actually unable to sustain many people despite being so large, it has small liveable areas in comparison to its size.

I've seen a lot of concern and saying that all working visa students need to be sent home and no more immigration until they can build enough houses for the people who currently live there, also that Medicare is breaking under the strain and everyone now has to pay a gap fee.

You have to do an identity check before you can receive UC.

A thorough identity check including in person travel documents if you are not a UK born citizen.

If he’s claiming benefits then he will be entitled to via status, There js no benefit that ‘any British citizen gets’, entitlement is based on a load of factors not just nationality. I don’t know whether a Turkish national would need to have British nationality to claim tbh. My point was more that, if he was married to a British woman 20 years ago he’s been in the country and working for years, contributing, which the pp seemed to suggest he hadn’t been. And yes, plenty of white Brits have vaned the system, yet the people who start these threads/fall for the Daily Mail garbage seem oblivious to that.

ethnicity/equality data is a different question as per the pp's post.

Exactly.

You're equating self identification to àctual immigration and nationality status.

UC very carefully check this in person documentation.

You don't HAVE to self identify.

You do HAVE to have the legal documents.

I'm not equating anything - I was replying to Busybeemumm's post with a note to the statistics she posted.

A statistic that is a based on self identification.
It is included as data for equality purposes.

The base facts are also available and are based on actual data from official documents. It is not unknown. It is also in the paper in black and white. Suggesting people can just say that they identify as British when they aren't and then claim benefits is disingenuous.

What’s more shocking is that some “news” won’t report anything about the unmanaged immigration and how they are bringing fed, housed, medically cared for, educated in the UK and if or when they will contribute to the economy,

Everyone else will be poorer because of all the people that UK did not need, or want .. to feed, clothe, care for, educate, imprison etc

Why are they here? Do we have open borders and free living for anyone who pays criminals to smuggle them in?

UK is a chump nation, being taken advantage of.

If people here illegally, or overstayed visa …. There is no issue with sending them home. Zero.