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One million immigrants claiming benefits

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AnxiousApocalypse · 16/07/2025 01:15

Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

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AlertEagle · 16/07/2025 19:39

ffsfindmeausername · 16/07/2025 19:32

I have a teen dd who has been harassed numerous times by migrant men on her way to college, I was actually with her once when it happened and witnessed it myself. She hates it and feels very uncomfortable.
We are not in London but in another large city.
There's a new estate currently under development in my area 100% without a doubt that this estate will be almost if not 100% inhabited my migrants as its just the way it is now around here. It's come to something when its an actual shock to see an English family being housed on our estate in England because it just no longer happens, even though many english families are trying and bidding on these properties. As soon as a house becomes vacant can guarantee the new tenants will be none British.
As a result our once lovely well cared for estate has become incredibly run down and scruffy with rubbish dumped everywhere, scruffy gardens and windows. they just don't seem to have the same pride in how their homes look and its been so sad to see the decline in the area as a result.

I’ve been harassed by many British men so what is your point exactly?

DollydaydreamTheThird · 16/07/2025 19:41

FieldDrop · 16/07/2025 03:40

@AnxiousApocalypse

We are not the only country that takes asylum seekers/immigration. I don’t know how we compare proportionally to other European countries now but I remember Germany taking far more than the UK a few years ago.

As the result of war, it’s usually the surrounding safe countries who take the highest number of asylum
seekers.
I think we also need to remember that we are responsible for global inequality, exploitation, depletion of resources and poverty. The history books may paint us as heroes, but we have done some dreadful things to the countries that want support from us.

Papers like the Telegraph, Mail and Farage like to portray it a certain way. Dehumanising people, making out immigrants are criminals, xenophobia - but I think there is far more to it than that.
Sadly - since Covid, financial pressures - people are lapping up the Farage type ethos. Everyone is out for themselves and focussed on their own individualism.

That’s a bigger problem I think.
We are a global community.

We’ve exploited other countries, killed on a far, far greater scale than what we are experiencing back now.

Just this really. Noone is talking about how the money and prosperity our country has was gained by raping and pillaging other countries and creating an empire that stole the resources of other countries and got slaves to do the work. Surely it's only right that we share some of our ill gotten gains with people that need it after what we did in the past.
We can't even give back historical artifacts that we stole, our museums are stuffed full of them. It makes me sick and I'm not proud to say I'm British when I go abroad.

PreciousMomentsHun · 16/07/2025 19:41

MrsMurphyIWish · 16/07/2025 19:30

You sound bet angry but you’re directing your anger at the wrong people.

Growing up as one of the few white children in a class, and I teach in a school that is highly diverse, I don’t see this division as my area has always been like this.

You also possibly drive away in your car to a house in a leafier, nicer little village or area away from your diverse school, and aren't walking home alone through the park or the town centre, or witnessing what the girls have to put up with on their walk home?

I love teachers and don't mean that as an attack, but there's plenty that you don't generally see.

BackinGear · 16/07/2025 19:44

Don't bother adding to this thread, just another goady post.

OP is so ‘anxious’ that he/she couldn't sleep, posting at 1.15am and never returned!

What a surprise!

pointythings · 16/07/2025 19:46

PreciousMomentsHun · 16/07/2025 19:41

You also possibly drive away in your car to a house in a leafier, nicer little village or area away from your diverse school, and aren't walking home alone through the park or the town centre, or witnessing what the girls have to put up with on their walk home?

I love teachers and don't mean that as an attack, but there's plenty that you don't generally see.

I live in an almost 100% white town in Suffolk. My DDs have been harrassed by men on the way to and from school when they still lived here - white, British men. The problem is men.

PreciousMomentsHun · 16/07/2025 19:47

pointythings · 16/07/2025 19:46

I live in an almost 100% white town in Suffolk. My DDs have been harrassed by men on the way to and from school when they still lived here - white, British men. The problem is men.

Indeed they are a scourge.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 16/07/2025 19:48

TreatTreat · 16/07/2025 18:43

I wonder what the other essentials are? They also get free travel passes for public transport.

So free house, healthcare, £50 per week pp. £300 maternity grant. Free school meals and education. That quite a lot of free that we are paying for.

Allisnotlost1 · 16/07/2025 19:49

MightyDandelionEsq · 16/07/2025 16:07

A lot of Celtic traditions have been co opted by English culture so are similar but not the same. Mainly Christian festivals which took over the pagan festivals (seeing an uptick in that though).

I think for me the biggest thing is food, Welsh cakes on the griddle is something we all adore. It’s also (again not tangible) but a ‘way of the person’. Like northerners and southerners in England there’s a difference in personality that isn’t tangible but you know it’s there - mannerisms, way of speaking etc.

About 60% of white English people have Celtic DNA so not sure if co-opted is the right word.

I’m not sure any of what you describe is under threat threat. I don’t know about Wales but in English regions ways of speaking and mannerisms have changed over time regardless of immigration. The Museum of London (I think?) used to have recordings of people over many years and actors voicing, for example, Elizabethan accents. Culture, language. It changes. I don’t quite know what’s so frightening about that to people who will not be here to see it. I guess it’s a sense of mortality, people maybe feel they live on in their traditions and beliefs.

MrsMurphyIWish · 16/07/2025 19:49

PreciousMomentsHun · 16/07/2025 19:41

You also possibly drive away in your car to a house in a leafier, nicer little village or area away from your diverse school, and aren't walking home alone through the park or the town centre, or witnessing what the girls have to put up with on their walk home?

I love teachers and don't mean that as an attack, but there's plenty that you don't generally see.

@PreciousMomentsHun I said I grew up as one of the few white children in my class and I haven’t left the area. No, I do not live in a leafy middle class area. I live in a deprived city. DH and I could have moved out to the outskirts but the city is home to us. I’m not blind to social issues - I grew up in poverty. To me, the people who complain the loudest about these issues, are those people who have just started to see them.

Staffling · 16/07/2025 19:56

FancyNewt · 16/07/2025 02:50

But what does that mean? Is it child benefit but people are working ? Or are we talking about people not working ?

Half of these 1 million are working and 700 000 of them are eu citizens who arrived here before brexit. I assume they work in minimum wage jobs and were caught out by the cost of living crisis like all of us.

People would do well to remember that usually minimum wage job means the jobs that are absolutely essential to the smooth running of society.

I would bet good money that the benefit of these 500 000 immigrants doing the work they do out weighs the benefits they claim. In all probability we are probably getting a pretty good deal here.

IthasYes · 16/07/2025 19:57

I don't mind people, immigrants claiming benefits but what I don't like is all the fraud and fake English schools getting people into uni or UK with fake certificates or fake marriages, fake illness and so on.

In some cultures bribery and corruption is an expected part of business, we need to wise up.

DuncinToffee · 16/07/2025 20:00

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One million immigrants claiming benefits
Allisnotlost1 · 16/07/2025 20:02

abracadabra1980 · 16/07/2025 19:28

@ChocolateGanache hmmm, maybe I am directly involved in one of those trades, and I would dearly like my students to have the opportunity of being able to set up their own business in the future, like my generation used to be able to, without some money laundering immigrant setting up next door. We currently have over 22 barbers on my town - the latest has set up directly opposite one of the oldest, most established salons; tried to pinch the owner's staff (they just told him to piss off) and he's had ONE customer in the last year. He sleeps in his shop and there are all sorts of goings on in the flat above it in the evenings. So yes, I do have a little insight into what goes on around me. You?

It’s possible he’s a victim of trafficking rather than the ‘money laundering immigrant’ you suggest.

Strawberrri · 16/07/2025 20:04

AlertEagle · 16/07/2025 19:39

I’ve been harassed by many British men so what is your point exactly?

😂

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 16/07/2025 20:06

Can we stop saying “immigrant” please?
we are not one homogeneous mass.

My dad was asked to come here as he had a sought after skill that the uk wanted. He came and faced a lot of racism and not the experience he was sold.

im first gen. And I work.

Tha language o to dehumanise us is shocking.

I like Britain. It’s not a country in decline. Yes it has problems. But some are as a result of govt ideology not the black and brown people.

BumblingBanana · 16/07/2025 20:11

I personally don't care if there are 10,000 refugees claiming benefits - to gain refugee status is an arduous process fraught with uncertainty, and these are traumatised people. I'm proud that, as a country, the UK can offer refugee status.

ChocolateGanache · 16/07/2025 20:11

Msmfailedusbad · 16/07/2025 19:19

@ChocolateGanache why don’t you have a 🍩

Why don’t you stop listening to racist rhetoric and agreeing with it?

ChocolateGanache · 16/07/2025 20:12

BumblingBanana · 16/07/2025 20:11

I personally don't care if there are 10,000 refugees claiming benefits - to gain refugee status is an arduous process fraught with uncertainty, and these are traumatised people. I'm proud that, as a country, the UK can offer refugee status.

💯💯💯💯

ChocolateGanache · 16/07/2025 20:14

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 16/07/2025 20:06

Can we stop saying “immigrant” please?
we are not one homogeneous mass.

My dad was asked to come here as he had a sought after skill that the uk wanted. He came and faced a lot of racism and not the experience he was sold.

im first gen. And I work.

Tha language o to dehumanise us is shocking.

I like Britain. It’s not a country in decline. Yes it has problems. But some are as a result of govt ideology not the black and brown people.

Exactly. I’m so sick of hearing all this dehumanising racist shit all over the place. So fucking ignorant! It’s really boiling my piss.

pointythings · 16/07/2025 20:15

@Pinkfluffypencilcase I agree so hard.

As for the poster who thinks they are able to identify non-British people solely by their name - bullshit to that. I work for the NHS and so I know many doctors and nurses with foreign names. Born in the UK, to naturalised parents, therefore fully British.

If you think 'British' means 'White', you're a racist. Plain and simple.

Clavinova · 16/07/2025 20:17

Equalfrogjob · 16/07/2025 18:57

As of June 2023 (the most recent estimate provided by ONS) there is an estimated 11.4M foreign nationals in the UK, roughly 18% of the population. According to the UC stats referred to by the telegraph/DM 86.4% of UC claimants are British and Irish nationals meaning only 12.6% of UC claimants are foreign nationals, meaning foreign nationals claim UC at a lesser rate than British and Irish nationals. It's a big headline but not an unreasonable amount of people to be claiming UC, just another reason to stir up hate towards foreign nationals and asylum seekers (who aren't even part of the statistics as they can't claim UC but people will use any excuse to hate on asylum seekers).

According to the UC stats referred to by the telegraph/DM 86.4% of UC claimants are British and Irish nationals

The percentage reported was 83.6% British and Irish nationals.

miserableandworried · 16/07/2025 20:17

the most applications for asylum in 2024 were from people from Pakistan. Why? There is no war going on over there. No natural disasters.

Most Pakistani people I know tend to have multiple trips “home” a year.

Msmfailedusbad · 16/07/2025 20:19

ChocolateGanache · 16/07/2025 20:11

Why don’t you stop listening to racist rhetoric and agreeing with it?

why don’t you stop gaslighting , belittling and shouting people down.
the numbers don’t lie- the county is broke, it is also broken .

ChocolateGanache · 16/07/2025 20:19

ffsfindmeausername · 16/07/2025 19:32

I have a teen dd who has been harassed numerous times by migrant men on her way to college, I was actually with her once when it happened and witnessed it myself. She hates it and feels very uncomfortable.
We are not in London but in another large city.
There's a new estate currently under development in my area 100% without a doubt that this estate will be almost if not 100% inhabited my migrants as its just the way it is now around here. It's come to something when its an actual shock to see an English family being housed on our estate in England because it just no longer happens, even though many english families are trying and bidding on these properties. As soon as a house becomes vacant can guarantee the new tenants will be none British.
As a result our once lovely well cared for estate has become incredibly run down and scruffy with rubbish dumped everywhere, scruffy gardens and windows. they just don't seem to have the same pride in how their homes look and its been so sad to see the decline in the area as a result.

Wandering around are they? Whatever next?!

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