Almond milk is not full of almonds!!!

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Im not sure what has happened here, I normally scour a product for ingredients, I dont usually buy stuff with strange stuff in it as a rule, not obsessively but generally because I just buy straight forward basic ingredients

But Im looking to see if non dairy milks might help my GERD so picked up almond and oat milks, thinking they were just that, mushed up almonds and oats

They are not!!

They have tons of strange things in them like gums and stabilisers and what nots. I dont mind the added vitamins and minerals so not talking about them

I should have checked

I dont mind the almond one, I have opened that one first but not sure I would buy again. It doesnt work in tea though.

Cow’s milk is vile. Some are intolerant of it as they don’t have sufficient lactase to break down the lactose. And milk protein allergies are one of the most common.

Milk is and emulsion of fats and oil in water ... that covers a lot of products 😀

Cows milk not vile. Humans have been consuming dairy products from cows, goats and sheep for millennia. Outside the Far East lactose intolerance is relatively rare. Milk protein intolerances do exist, but a switch from cow to goat usually sorts that out and many people with a milk protein intolerance can tolerate cows milk cheese and unhomigenised cows milk.

Milk is baby food. We aren't supposed to drink it past weaning. Those that can are just plain weirdos ... or European. The two may be related ...

And language can’t really be regulated that way. Eg we have called thick jam pastes cheese for centuries.

When I had a B&B some American guests would put orange juice on their cereal.

OJ obviously doesn't work in tea 😄

I dont have a milk intolerance Im just trying to work into my diet soem of the acid watcher diet principles, although coffee certainly isnt one of those anyway

So I simply bought some plant milks to start to try.

No we dont live near farms or anything like that so it will be supermarket shopping and brands.

I have tried goats milk, I do like that, but the book sets out non dairy as quite a principle of the diet in the healing phase so I will try my best at the moment.

I dont think theres anything wrong with dairy products, I love them.

My mum did that when I was a child. I think it was a callanetics or Jane Fonda diet fad.

This isnt a milk bashing thread. Or European bashing thread thank you

Haven’t RTFT but Plenish almond milk is delicious and has I think 3 or 4 ingredients

In which case can you just cut out all dairy, including fake dairy, for a month. Black tea and coffee is actually fine once you get used to it. Then when you’ve done your detox you can decide whether to go back to what you normally use. For people who like real dairy the fake stuff is always a disappointment. It’s also full of emulsifiers and preservatives.

Some people can lose a little of the ability to break down lactose as they age, it is a thing. And if people start experiencing digestive issues, a real dietician might suggest they reduce milk and cream. However, being fucking amazing, humans millennia ago twigged that if you can't manage lactose, there are plenty of ways to remove it from milk rather than waste a precious resource. Hence cheese and yoghurt

Luckily I wasn't doing either.

There are a few that don't have gums etc.
Plenish - most of them are just almonds/oats and water/salt
Oatly organic shelf stable (my preference as it froths up in the nespresso frother)
Califa farms organic oat (in fridge)
You do have to double check labels though.

I see you are going to try Acid Watcher. I have been on it for nearly 3 years - most of the time I am 100% compliant, but on holiday I do go off piste otherwise it would be impossible to eat out. By the end of the week I am usually desperate to get back to my normal way of eating!

I do have the very occasional decaff/skinny coffee when out.

I do eat the approved amount of cheese (approx 20 g) most days for calcium, I use sesame seeds and tahini and eat green leafy veg. My bone profile is fine as just had a few blood tests (am in my early 50s).

You wouldn't be able to have that on the Acid Watcher diet that the OP is trying out.

PPIs don't work for everyone and they are not good for you long term.

Oat milk isn't that great for you. It tastes and blends better with tea and coffee but doesn't have the nutritional benefit of soya. I believe it contains rapeseed oil so not great if you're trying to avoid seed oils.

We make our own alternative milk. That we we know exactly what is in it - water and the key ingredient. 60g coconut or almond or whatever, 1 litre water. Nothing else unless we fancy a variety and throw some dates or cinnamon in.

Lactose intolerance is fairly common and incidence increases with age.

Insufficient lactase is a separate issue to milk protein allergy which is an immune response of varying degrees of severity.

Homogenised/non-homogenised contain the same amount of proteins (caseins & whey) and cheese contains milk proteins too.

@ethelredonagoodday - it's so hard isn't it? I've been doing it for nearly 3 years, but do occasionally stray from it or I'd never have a life! I'm fine with it at home - can eat simply - but going out, going on holiday - almost impossible to keep 100%.

I've got a lot going on in my gut and having some more tests currently, so once I get all the results and have my consultation I hope that a proper diagnosis is made and I can start to heal properly.

No horse in horseradish either

Well I wont be doing that because I love my tea, I drink coffee maybe once a week or so on a saturday morning usually.

I wont be eating fake cheese or cream type products no, Im going to swap for things like tofu as recommended and eat lower fat or softer cheeses. Todays lunch is burrata which probably doesnt really fit the bill to be honest and Ive already sneaked a bit of cheese on toast from my OH's breakfast too so failing all round so far today.

Oh and just realised tomatoes and peppers are in the lunch so thats torn it, too acidic.

Oat is better for environment and tastes nice but they all contain oil, or curdle in coffee.

Buy a good 100% nuts smooth almond butter like Meridian and blend it with water for easy almond milk.

Still not good in coffee though. I've gone back to cows milk for that.

@soupyspoon - this also surprised/shocked me. I’d been using oat milk a while, quite liked it, in coffee especially. Once I’d read the ingredients and seen all the added baddies, I realised that’s why I’d been putting on weight - all the sugary crap and gums etc.