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To think most men would cheat if they knew they’d never be caught?

328 replies

OneMauveMentor · 13/07/2025 18:26

It’s not about love - it’s about opportunity, ego, and lack of consequences. “Good men” are often just men who haven’t had the chance (yet). Loyalty when untested isn’t real loyalty.

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dogcatkitten · 13/07/2025 21:23

NachoChip · 13/07/2025 19:45

I'm amazed that there are responses thinking it's the same for women as men. It just isn't. I don't know if it's biology, social attitudes or a combination but if you think men and women are the same on this issue, you're absolutely kidding yourselves.

You are in denial or oblivious, how many women wouldn't have a fling with that gorgeous hulk down the road if she found him really attractive, he was very interested and there were absolutely no consequences? Of course, 'women wouldn't do that' and equally obviously men would (gorgeous willing woman down the road). If you take away consequences it is so much easier for men or women to indulge in what might have been a fantasy. It always takes two anyway (if you hadn't noticed) so on average an equal number of men and women are unfaithful, it's not just a man thing.

Tidekiln · 13/07/2025 21:27

OneMauveMentor · 13/07/2025 18:39

I’m not saying women wouldn’t. But I do think the cultural messaging and ego dynamics around cheating play out differently for men, more external validation, more entitlement, more opportunity. Happy to hear other views though.

Women cheat and you know this so why not just head up your thread- would most people cheat if they knew they wouldn't get caught.

Have you had a recent bad experience or been cheated on a lot in the past?

Tidekiln · 13/07/2025 21:30

Sexlessandconfused · 13/07/2025 19:55

Also on another note, the women I've known who have cheated it has been for exit affairs. When the truth has come to light the relationships have just ended with the woman not really fighting for it or leaving for the OM.

The men I know who've cheated have had zero intention to ever leave their partners. So when the truth comes out they are begging and pleading with their wives for forgiveness.

All cheated but with different motives.

I'm not sure which is worse. Probably both just as bad.

Spha · 13/07/2025 21:38

Crankyaboutfood · 13/07/2025 18:32

Appalling

MelBrookesMyHero · 13/07/2025 21:38

OneMauveMentor · 13/07/2025 18:26

It’s not about love - it’s about opportunity, ego, and lack of consequences. “Good men” are often just men who haven’t had the chance (yet). Loyalty when untested isn’t real loyalty.

As a man (sorry I'm not a Mum but I'm realising there's as many men as women on MN), I just had to reply to this, you might even be my (now ex) OH, as this is the sort of thing she would say!

I found your post, and others, quite enlightening about why women might cheat. I think opportunity and ego were probably part of why my OH cheated so much. As for lack of consequences, I think that translates to not giving a shit about the consequences, or that a casual shag here or there was worth the risk. Before we met I did plenty of shagging around, always being sensible enough to take precautions and mindful of the consequences if i didn't. But when I met my OH I was besotted with her from day 1 and despite lots of opportunities continuing to pass my way, and some of them very tempting in the moment, fidelity felt completely natural having previously having been sceptical and quite happily single.

Fast forward 16 years and 2 DC's later, and it turns out she'd been shagging around for much of our relationship, I guess at every 'opportunity' - with colleagues, ONS's, strangers, including (among others) in the back of our car, in a dingy piss stinking car park, even in a strip club ffs. So I guess I must have become that unattractive, impotent man no woman would lust after as one poster responded above. On the other hand, maybe I just loved her so much I couldn't contemplate doing something so hurtful.

Isxmasoveryet · 13/07/2025 21:41

Are these men cheating with other menor just doing it alone it no longer takes two to tango just one man already in a relationship lol

chachahide · 13/07/2025 21:43

Statistically men are more likely to cheat than women, and I also saw the study that 1/3 men would rape if they knew they wouldn’t be caught.

I once saw a college specific study that was 46%, grim.

DiscoNights · 13/07/2025 21:44

I absolutely think most men would cheat if they were guaranteed to get away with it, and I think lots of women would, too. In fact, I think the numbers of people who do cheat or have cheated is quite a high percentage anyway? About 40% of women and 55% of men? I’m going to go and google now, so don’t quote me on it!

MathNotMathing · 13/07/2025 21:45

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JMSA · 13/07/2025 21:46

Agreed. And I do not agree that just as many women would do it.

jjpollypocket · 13/07/2025 21:46

100% sadly

cheesycheesy · 13/07/2025 23:33

Hellomeee · 13/07/2025 18:31

Mine wouldn't, he's too knackered 🤣

sure

StrangledVowels · 13/07/2025 23:45

Probably.

And a lot of women would too. Being female doesn’t come with a halo.

OonaStubbs · 13/07/2025 23:48

Surely men and women cheat just as much as each other? Unless all the men are cheating with other men, which does happen I guess.

ShesTheAlbatross · 14/07/2025 06:07

OonaStubbs · 13/07/2025 23:48

Surely men and women cheat just as much as each other? Unless all the men are cheating with other men, which does happen I guess.

I doubt there are reliable stats. But men could be cheating with single women.

x2boys · 14/07/2025 06:15

OneMauveMentor · 13/07/2025 18:26

It’s not about love - it’s about opportunity, ego, and lack of consequences. “Good men” are often just men who haven’t had the chance (yet). Loyalty when untested isn’t real loyalty.

Who would they be cheating with 🤔

x2boys · 14/07/2025 06:20

chachahide · 13/07/2025 21:43

Statistically men are more likely to cheat than women, and I also saw the study that 1/3 men would rape if they knew they wouldn’t be caught.

I once saw a college specific study that was 46%, grim.

These kinds of statistics mean nothing, so you read s study so what, if you ask 20 people very specific questions and they give you similar answers you could say statistics say 100% of people would do x,y and z if they could get a way with it.

CatherinedeBourgh · 14/07/2025 06:25

No.

I was never bothered about sexual exclusivity. I told dh from the get go if he wanted to have sex with someone else he could, just be responsible about it (stis, pgs, etc). I didn't need to know and wouldn't ask, but if he wanted to tell me that was fine too. He thought about it and told me the same was true for me.

We have only had sex with each other for over 30 years. It works for us, and neither feels the urge to find anyone else. We talked about it recently and agreed that that might change and it would be OK, but we are currently fine as we have been for the last decades.

I think for serial cheats the 'forbidden' element is a big part of what makes it attractive/exciting. And for one offs/serial monogamists, it's usually something to force them out a marriage that they were unhappy in anyway but didn't have the get together to leave without another party 'pulling' at them. All the men I know who left after an affair had told me prior to the affair that their 'life' wasn't working for them (men don't seem to come out and say they are unhappy in their marriage, they always talk about everything else in their life not working for them - at least to me).

This goes for both men and women, btw.

Platypusdiver · 14/07/2025 06:25

The majority - yes.

hotlegshoolahan · 14/07/2025 06:28

NachoChip · 13/07/2025 18:40

I'm amazed that there are responses thinking it's the same for women as men. It just isn't. I don't know if it's biology, social attitudes or a combination but if you think men and women are the same on this issue, you're absolutely kidding yourselves.

But a lot of cheating husbands are doing so with cheating wives.

Isittimeformynapyet · 14/07/2025 06:34

Sexlessandconfused · 13/07/2025 19:51

@SprayWhiteDung

Well those are very different situations. A single woman or man would go with whoever like fancy and like as a person obviously. That's nothing to do with cheating, that's just dating?

I'm saying that women can't honestly say their husbands are loyal (as this thread is about men and not women/people), if there has never been a real test.

So if you have a hunky 30 year old husband, who was hit on by a 75 year old frail women and said no, then I wouldn't say that's just because he's loyal. That's mainly because he'd never sleep with her in a million moons, no matter his personal circumstances.

Likewise if you have a 60 year old morbidly obese husband with a comb over and missing teeth, he's unlikely to ever be hit on and put in that situation. And if he were to be hit on, it realistically isn't going to be a 25 year old sexy temptress chasing him for no strings attached sex.

So realistically is it out of loyalty they haven't cheated, or just because no one very attractive has ever pursued them for secret no strings attached illicit sex?

No opportunity does not equal loyalty.

You'd only really know if you had a very attractive husband who's had plenty of options for carefree sex with very attractive women and turned them all down.

You've just repeated your previous post here - pretty much verbatim.

x2boys · 14/07/2025 06:49

Spha · 13/07/2025 21:38

Appalling

It's 1/3 ,of men who took part in a specific study with out knowing the sample size the questions asked etc It's a meaningless statiistic.

x2boys · 14/07/2025 07:02

x2boys · 14/07/2025 06:49

It's 1/3 ,of men who took part in a specific study with out knowing the sample size the questions asked etc It's a meaningless statiistic.

Oh and the sample size was 86 people and they were American university students it doesn't really prove anything.

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 07:19

dogcatkitten · 13/07/2025 20:57

And women! Just the same, opportunity, ego and lack of consequences. Women are not some superior species.

No, not the same at all.

I have been in environments where people could have cheated with low possibility of being found out (working abroad). I would say maybe a third of the men did. But zero of the women.

PlainJaneBrain · 14/07/2025 07:21

GuevarasBeret · 14/07/2025 07:19

No, not the same at all.

I have been in environments where people could have cheated with low possibility of being found out (working abroad). I would say maybe a third of the men did. But zero of the women.

How did you know the women didn't? Maybe women are just more discreet about cheating?