Thread 6: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Second article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

Third item in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

NB Please be careful when it comes to naming or implicating people who aren't in the public eye or have no connection to the story, especially where details are unclear or still emerging i.e. DON'T DO IT.

Keep on the path. No saltiness. Thank you.

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the three Observer articles before posting.

My dad was like this. Always envious even though he'd done pretty well for himself. He was always saying that he should've had this or that. He had plenty.

This is the dad who was a charming, compulsive liar, who believed the world revolved around him. He was always criticising other people, too.

It is indeed, as is people looking like their dogs.

Oh that is a shame. My dog is far prettier than I am 😆

I don't believe that for a minute!

I've now moved on to trying to think about how they are going to stage their comeback because I am in no doubt that they will be back and probably stronger and more popular than ever.

A very obvious starting point is for Salnor to get a spot on I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here. I would put the likelihood of this happening as very high. I can see her in the hat and khaki jacket right now.
She could even, "Winn."

Moth's public rehabilitation is slighly more difficult but I'll come up with something.

Maybe that's just your perception.

But from what everyone says she isn’t that personable and he is more likely to come across well. Although would struggle with his health I suppose

Has Raynor done all this simply as besotted with Moth from day 1 & bends herself out of shape to please him?

So Bill Cole felt gaslit having resonated strongly with Moth. Bill's wife was dying from cancer and was against the W/W moving in on a peppercorn rent. W/W left the cider farm around 2023, a year before tenancy was up.

@Redheadedstepchild good call, but she might actually have to drop the "jagged rocks into smooth pebbles" (etc etc) repetition and actually answer some questions.

Doubt Emily Maitlis would be up for the gig too, sadly and poor Jeremy Paxman has Parkinsons.

I completely agree with all the above - they've done far worse than change a few details, they're fraudsters.

They created the whole concept of conveniently hard-to-diagnose Tim's illness purely based on (pre researched?) symptoms as pathos to nicely fit their walk (ala Armitage) believing their own entitlement.

I doubt they even bothered to walk much.

Yes, adoring DiamondDog probably thinks Diamond is much prettier than her.

How is anyone supposed to answer that?

Our Staff probably was prettier than me. I might have to think about a bulldog.😆

I truly look nothing like my cat. He is absolutely drop dead gorgeous. People gasp when they see pics of him. 🙄😆

The one thing I think that today's Observer article does establish is that Moth has - in the recent past - not told the truth about his health. Which I think is quite important, because that's the one area of the paper's initial investigation which didn't entirely have the paperwork or witnesses to back it up.

This also makes me wonder whether he was the person who perhaps approached the Observer first, and in backing that up, they discovered a whole other world of untruths, which were strong enough to be the first article alone.

Would also explain why he didn't want to talk to the Mail.

But I’ve no particular interest in ‘the actual truth’. I’m not Judge Judy or an investigative journalist. That’s Chloe Hadjimatheou’s job.

And I wasn’t someone who took a great deal of notice of Moth’s illness or miracle cure when I read TSP. And I didn’t think they seemed at all ‘nice’, so I’m really interested in how betrayed so many people feel by the revelations.

For me it was quite a strange book. For something being marketed as ‘feelgood’, it featured rather a lot of deep negativity and rage towards people met on the path (doesn’t someone encourage his dog to piss on their tent at one point? Or does someone actually piss on their tent?) and their benefactors. I put that down to bitterness about losing their home and the illness, but I thought it was interesting RW didn’t depict herself as nicer..

I was struck by how ‘alone in the world’ they seemed, with no friends or family stepping in to help them hire a lawyer or give them somewhere to stay.

I assumed that they were probably on bad terms with family and/or were people with few friends, doing the classic Mn thing of ‘retreating inside my little family’. In fairness, if they were actually farming a substantial farm as well as running a holiday let (which isn’t clear), it doesn’t leave much time for socialising. Or I wondered if they simply hadn’t integrated well locally in 20 years.

I suppose I’m interested in TSP as a literary construct with some (heavily mediated) relationship to reality. Im always really fascinated by how people alter real life events when they write about them, whether it’s Dorothy Wordsworth or Laura Ingalls Wilder.

I would absolutely love to see what the original MS of TSP which, if it was originally written for Moth alone, must have been very different to the published version. I’d live to know what RW is like to work with as an editor. Does she make or miss deadlines? Does she send in a clean MS or need heavy copy editing How does she deal with criticism? Were her agent and editor disappointed with the TWS?

It is my truth and I am holding to it.

(She is a working cocker. Gorgeous blue roan colouring. I rest my case.)

Me too

He is the more obvious candidate personality wise but isn't it a strange feature of I'm A Celebrity and Big Brother that the most horrible people always seem to do well?

Why are you asking me these questions?

I don’t have the glorious beard and eyebrows of my older dog but pup and I do share curly hair

Still smitten with a pp's idea on an earlier thread, of Maitlis getting the gig, so that Gillian Anderson can play both parts in the glossy mini-series! It has just the right amount of what-the-actual-fuckery 😆.

True! Maybe she’ll become besties with another contestant - Mike Tyson?

Maybe Moth will go on it and be given a medical exemption from every trial but charm his camp-mates?