Thread 6: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Second article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

Third item in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

NB Please be careful when it comes to naming or implicating people who aren't in the public eye or have no connection to the story, especially where details are unclear or still emerging i.e. DON'T DO IT.

Keep on the path. No saltiness. Thank you.

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the three Observer articles before posting.

@Stravaig feel very sorry indeed for all the team on the film, especially the main actors who are both known as good eggs and are talented performers.

Yes and doctors are quite rightly extremely cautious about giving news about 'terminal' prognosis or even poor prognosis.

I have personal experience of doctors giving me a poor prognosis but not actually telling me. This was for cancer. I had a lot of aggressive treatment that I had a very good response to and so my prognosis was revised. I was only told it had initally been 'poor' after they had revised it. I imagine they don't want people to give up hope.

SW/RW and Moth throw the word 'terminal' around as if doctors are quick to say it, and quick to specify how long he has to live (in 2013 two years, in 2021 only till Christmas etc). I don't believe this is how doctors communicate unless there has been a long time of severe ill health, probably stays in hospitals and maybe hospice.

Moth was clearly in pretty good shape (walking on harsh terrain etc) when they claim doctors gave him a short prognosis and was 'terminal'. I simply do not believe them.

Why would she jump off the roof in the first place? seems a daft thing to do

I totally agree & I am increasingly considering what you so eloquently describe. He’s universally loved it seems, Jason Isaacs seems really taken with him. I picked up on a power imbalance from the off, she’s desperate to make him hers. She looks quite homespun & he’s a considered dandy sporting a cravat from earliest years. Someone astutely noted on another thread that look doesn’t come cheap. She did sound a bit defeated in the odd nubile blonde episode. No doubt she’d have benefitted from a massage too. They were literally anointing his feet. He knows when to turn it up a cynic might say, too. It’s the old handsome wastrel thing, unsuited to graft & 9-5s never last, charming but no money to pay the gas bill. Of course, as you say, we can only speculate.

Yes, RW says they'd camped 'well above the high tide mark', but when they're awakened by the waves almost at their tent, there's some reference to what had been a little stream running down to the beach having turned into a deep channel of sea water -- it's not entirely clear to me what has actually happened unless it's an unusually high tide?

She was using the roof to sunbathe on and fell through it. Allegedly

Yes, she says they pitched the tent well above the tide line at Penberth Cove, but that there was an unexpected tidal surge. Possible I suppose.

@Lunde In my teens I had a compulsive liar as a friend too and you are exactly right every new school year equalled a new BFF. Her lies were off the scale a cancer diagnosis, she was adopted, during the summer holidays she'd secretly had a baby and given it up for adoption, her uncle was a millionaire gangster and not to mention the heaps of other friends and boyfriends she had that attended other schools and nobody ever saw because they were always "busy".

As you say when cornered or questioned she'd turn vicious and try to take you down with false allegations and rumors (that god this was before social media) that could make your life a living hell and she was always the bloody victim.

I hadn't connected that kind of behaviour to Sally Walker's before I read your post but you are totally correct and the statement last week about how unacceptably mean everyone was being was right out of the same playbook.

I've just found Rick Steins episode ,if you have sky it's on there otherwise U & Dave.

I think she jumped out of her flat window onto the flat roof of the chicken shop below? That's how I visualised it. We used to do the same when I lived in a manky flat above a shop in Kilburn, to sunbathe on the shop roof.

That's such a weird article. She comes across as needy.

What does this even mean? Should her dd not be the main character in her own story?
"She finally wrote her way into being the main character in her own life story:"

Then how she never actually explains how the dd got out. It just skips all that to the next lockdown.
As if the story was just there to prove the point that her dd needs her and she was right about that.
And just a cursory mention of her husband.

Quite odd.

Problem Sw has is that being caught out and then running away and changing your name doesn’t work when you’ve put yourself in the public domain so much!

I wonder where all their money from the books and the film is stashed. And under what names.

Curious as to how much made. More than 3 million? Less?

On SW insta or twitter it shows a picture of her with her daughter who she said stayed with them during lockdown

Here is the Rick Stein episode on U TV. It's free to watch after you register.

u.co.uk/shows/rick-steins-cornwall/series-3/episode-2/6360361196112

I'm watching the Rick Stein episode now, Moth clearly says he has a terminal illness but he got better by walking TSP. Ray then says after a couple of weeks walking he was able to do up his walking boots by himself. So she set off on a 600 mile walk with her husband who was struggling so much he couldn't do up his own boots,but the first activity that springs to mind ,is it?

Thank you , found it 😊

Penberth Cove is in Penzance, Cornwall. Where exactly did they start the SWCP? Starts in Minehead, Somerset and ends Poole, Dorset.

New thread on the way. Bear with.

It's Portheras Cove.

This whole thing is making me ponder the contemporary trend of personalising everything in order to sell it to the masses. It seems there has to be an "overcoming adversity" narrative arc in order to sell any unrelated content.

Has anyone seen Apple Cider Vinegar? In it you have Belle Gibson, aware she's been at least partially rumbled, trying to persuade her editor at Penguin to leave out the bits about overcoming cancer in her recipe book and just market it on the strength of the recipes, but the editor will have none of it, telling her "It's not the books we sell nowadays, it's the people" or similar. I don't know how far that's based on the truth though.

This also hit me while watching Race Across the World- everybody had to have a bloody back story, and screen time that could have been spent focusing on the participants exploring the fantastic countries they were travelling in was instead dedicated to tedious navel gazing about whether they'd "grown closer" 🙄 And then it turns out that the winner's back story had been heavily manipulated by the BBC to cast her as a "simple wife and mum finding herself again", rather than the successful eventer she actually was.

It's a tedious and infantalising fashion, and hopefully Saltgate will prod the culture industry to move on from it.

God, imagine if there was this tendency in publishing when Dervla Murphy was writing her books. "Less about the countries you're visiting Dervla, and more about you revisiting past trauma of having to nurse your sick mum, and ooh- why not a whole book about your decision to become a single mum by choice in the 1970s, with maybe the odd superficial pretty view chucked in? Then the whole Internet can join in with the fun of trying to identify your daughter's father!"

I can see how that would work with other people assuming Moths surname was Winn, same as Sally-Rays but not sure why he would adopt it for himself unless he wanted to distance himself from Tim Walker.

Agreed, @crackofdoom . X Factor was terrible for this

To add to this, I was thinking earlier how Jason Isaacs has publicly announced how much of a great guy Tim is, to the point of saying he loves him. This is precisely how master manipulators operate, charming their way into people's trust, and often its notably excessive. I've met people like this in the past who have initially been the most lovely people only to be found out as either frauds or cheaters.