Muslim women who dress modestly...

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If you're at the beach and you want to paddle in the sea, are you able to roll up your trousers? Genuinely wondering as I saw a muslim family on the beach today having great fun. The kids were paddling in the sea. The women weren't but this question sprung in my head.

Perhaps a desire to copy their mum? Bit like girls in my niece's class in year 3 who were wearing lip gloss or nail polish or any other thing the didn't need to wear that the boys weren't wearing?

Curious and nosy aren't the same.

They probably weren’t intending to swim. There’s an array of modest swim wear (think surfer leggings/top etc) so if they wanted they would have wore something like that. Also you can’t lump Muslim women into one group, British born south East Asian Muslim women is likely to practice her faith differently to for an example a Malaysian Muslim woman.

And even those who hijab in day to day life may dress differently on holidays away from home, I’ve seen my client’s holiday snaps! She wears a niqab in the U.K. for societal reasons due to expectations, their family business would struggle if there wasn’t the appearance of a dutiful pious wife but in reality she’s the brains behind the business and on holiday she happily dons a bikini

In regards to using the words modest and immodest to describe clothing, I think that's accurate. To me a habit is modest and arseless chaps are immodest. The words may be old-fashioned, but the concept still exists.

Immodestly dressed just means dressed inappropriately or overtly sexual for that situation. If a girl or boy went into school wearing said chaps they would be immodestly/inappropriately dressed. They may still be the paragon of virtue, similarly myself who covers up most of the time can still behave like the devil incarnate one doesn't necessarily have any bearing on the other.

As for the the poster who referred to Muslim women being dressed head to toe as pathetic, how insulting and narrow minded. There are Muslim women on this thread who are openly and positively discussing their experiences. Pathetic is such a horrible, pitying, disparaging remark.

You mind your own business then but the rest of us will continue to ask questions and hope people can see the spirit they are being asked in and that we want to educate ourselves.

Its just the terminology some faiths use. Not all adherents to those faiths use the term but a lot do. Orthodox Christian, Muslim, Jewish etc.

Absolutely this.

cotton, linen and like you hiding inside most probably.

What a load of.nonsense having to keep yourself covered up.

Do the men do it, no, so why should the women.
About time they all started fighting back against this opression.
Who the hell do people/religions think they are making up these rules about what a woman should/shouldn't do.
If it's hot, uncover your body and let the air get to.it. Be comfortable.

Boils my piss all this. Women are not second class citizens we are equal to men.

Women absolutely have a right to wear what they choose, but unfortunately we live in a world where some women get less/no free choice - their decisions are often controlled by men, in religious or secular contexts, and they don't always realise it.

No, it's not accurate.
Clothes do not tell us anything about a person's modesty. They tell us very little really.

I agree. Was about to come on here just to say this! In fact , there'll probably be no mumsnet if everyone minded their own business!

I disagree. It's always interesting to know how other people, other cultures function.

Ask questions be nosy and perhaps judgemental, going by some responses.

Completely agree!

You can't think to know what Muslim men from a whole lot of different cultures think just because u were married to one...

You married one so that allows you to pass judgment on the entire male Muslim community which is about a billion?

Call it curious/nosy... I don't gaf

Feel free to jog on and stop trying to police the thread.

We'll continue to discuss what we like.

I get what you mean and agree to an extent, but I think it was still a problematic question because of the one dimensional positing / flattening of “Muslim women”. There are some 800 million Muslim women in the world from a vast diversity of cultures/ countries/ contexts. So I still think it was quite a weird question,

quote fail... that was for @Morgenrot25

Why though? It's harming no one by asking these questions, except you it seems. Delicate little flower.

I watched a large group of people do this in an indoor pool. I thought it shouldn't have been allowed. The sea is different though.
I follow an Orthodox Jew on Instagram and they wear as many clothes swimming as they do when they are in a town but their clothes are swimming clothes unlike what I saw in the indoor pool above.

Feel free to take your own advice re policing the thread. 🫣

That's like asking why something that is written in the bible isn't followed by everyone to the letter..
Everyone has different levels of faith, even in Islam.