Muslim women who dress modestly...

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If you're at the beach and you want to paddle in the sea, are you able to roll up your trousers? Genuinely wondering as I saw a muslim family on the beach today having great fun. The kids were paddling in the sea. The women weren't but this question sprung in my head.

What you say is tosh. It is like when I say on a feminist thread that I gave up my high salary lawyer job to become a stay at home mother for a few years by choice and I get told that it isn't a real choice, namalt, etc etc

Some women in the west and other cultures are oppressed
Some are making choices.

Are you sure you can even see their faces since they’re all covered head to toe!? Or are you just being prejudiced? 🫢

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put into the youtube search engine "iran today, day to day, 2025"
you will find them

Interesting regarding protecting a lighter skin, thanks.

Good thread OP, so Interesting even @Morgenrot25 can't help but stay, despite finding it 'goady' .

Thanks to the Muslim women answering questions respectfully with no judgement.

Funny how the judgy ones have no self awareness, even when called out by numerous people.

Sometimes it's appropriate to speak up instead of just scrolling on by.
As for 'who are you voting for posts', I tend to avoid those too.
TBH, despite being an atheist, I just saw this thread turning into yet another reason to criticise muslim or other religious women - sadly, that appears to be the case for quite a few posters.
Muslims are not a generic group, as a couple of muslim ladies have eloquently shown.

@modestsometimes Absolute bullshit. Take a look at Afghanistan - is that how women want to live? Really? Embarrassing. Also so many stories of women being oppressed and controlled about what they wear and not being able to leave the house or live as they want in western societies. I don't want that for any woman - I will rail against it because it's misogyny - sorry if you don't recognise that - you are the problem if you don't see it.

No they are highly immodest ones, but by your standards clothes are just clothes, so it doesn't matter whether they are deemed 'normal' or not.

Mini skirts, thigh high boots, and lowcut bra tops.....they are normal clothes for a night out in Newcastle. Not saying there is anything wrong with it, but I am saying you would feel immodest if you went into Tesco's wearing that outfit, or to pick up your kid from school. To say you wouldn't is just horseshit. Also if you claim that is not the ordinary situation to be wearing such an outfit, then you are just furthering the point, that clothes are not just clothes.

Funny how some folk are happy to judge when others are too. 🫣

As someone who loves swimming, I find this post really sad. It's just a body. For living in.

Pre 1980s women in Muslim countries wore the same clothes as everyone else.

My mum was a fashion model back in the 1960s and she travelled all over the world. She’s shown me photos of her travels including to Iraq, Iran, Algeria etc. Women worked in offices, shops, salons, they were models, photographers. She partied with models who wore the same fashions as western world. Who would have thought the world would have gone so backwards

They're revealing.
They don't tell us anything about modesty.
Modesty in itself is a term used to control nowadays, and the meaning has shifted to become quite judgmental.

Jessica Fletcher has entered the thread 🧐

One is doing an awful lot of imagining here as opposed to respecting Muslim women as people and finding out the actual truths about THEIR lives.

I am a hijabi Muslim woman and I live in a hot climate. I dress modestly and have been married for many years. My husband has never once had a say over my clothing, nor would it occur to him to do so except for a "that looks nice" here or there, and the same for my friends. I have friends who over their life have become more modestly dressed, or less modestly dressed. Because THEY want to.

OP personally I would maybe sometimes roll my trousers to just above my ankles to get my feet wet and cool off if I have nothing else. If I was wearing a dress I would likely be wearing lightweight leggings beneath and wouldn't mind them getting wet in the slightest.

But overall no- I dress modestly to dress modestly, I wouldn't be counteracting that in a major way in public for an impromptu paddle.

Choice ??? Please remember the women of Afghanistan, who face brutal punishment or execution for failing to cover up ... and 22 year old Mahsa Amini in Iran, murdered for her ' improper' headcovering..( and hundreds of young demonstrators who protested) and all the thousands and thousands of women forced to cover their heads and faces on pain of harsh punishment in many Muslim countries.

Well thats your opinion on the word 'modesty'. Or should I say - your judgement.

Funny how you have the most posts on the thread yet still not making any sense.

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Do you harass people who support orthodox Jewish women wearing wigs and modest clothing and say that they are forced and that anyone who supports it are part of the problem?

Or harass people who support Christians who choose to wear modest clothing?

We are not discussing women not being allowed an education
We are not discussing Afghanistan
We are discussing modest clothing
Many Muslim women choose to wear traditional modest clothing
That fact in itself does not mean they are oppressed

You have no right to tell them what they should wear

It isnt me talking bullshit and causing the problems...

@Yazzi and the Muslim women in Afghanistan? They’ve made their own choices to dress more modestly similar to your friends have they - because THEY want to?

Uhuh. Did you expect me to express someone else's opinion?

It's not particularly funny that you cannot make sense of factual information, but hey ho. Tschüss.

@modestsometimes “We are not discussing women not being allowed an education
We are not discussing Afghanistan”

How convenient…would be a bit difficult to make your ‘it’s completely free choice’ argument if you looked at the horrendous oppression of those Muslim women square on. No education, no rights and no free choice about covering up. One and the same re Islamic religious oppression of women.

You are mixing up two things. You are right to criticise inhumane treatment and force. But the fact that this happens and is wrong does not mean that no Muslim women cover up out of choice. Two things are different issues.

It's just old fashioned 'she's wearing immodest clothing' actually sounds less judgemental than 'she's wearing revealing clothing'. The latter suggests she should cover up. Anyway semantics. I'm off to sleep.

Not one person on this thread has said that they do though, so not sure why you keep repeating this?

People have called clothing modest, but that doesn’t mean the person wearing the clothing is modest.

The word actually has a (slightly) different meaning when used to refer to clothing vs a person.

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