To ask what you think about Starmer’s plan to stop the boats?

[WhereIsMyJumper]

I cannot see how his ‘one in one out’ plan is going to help. I also can’t understand why France is cooperating with us. What’s the incentive?

If you don’t agree with this plan, what would your answer be?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg6x4g6gg6t

So it's ok for France to not accept them but we must?
Where do they go? To any one of the safe countries they have travelled through to get to the UK.

Yawn
And who is "we"? Plenty of immigrants in the UK. Who also don't want a vast increase in population either.

Albania and Afghanistan are ex colonies? News to me.

That must have passed me by too!

This.
When you google the amount spent on asylum
seekers, does it include the knock on effect of those migrants or just literally how much it costs to process them and house them while they’re being processed?

Savings need to be made everywhere really.

Approximately 70% of asylum seekers in the UK since 2001 have come from countries with a history of British colonial rule

So not all if that makes it easier for you to understand

If you follow this though do you think we should put limits on how many we take from the countries you’re thinking of?

We tried 3 times with Afghanistan to be fair

I am not sure what you are asking.

I was just pointing out that reasons people choose the UK is because of those histories.

See the articles I have linked as well.

Legal asylum seeking since 2001 isn't the issue nor the topic of this thread.

'The nationalities of those who make the crossing changes from year to year, but since 2018, citizens from Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Albania, Syria, and Eritrea have made up 70% of the people making the crossing.'

So where is your evidence to support that statement? Why would a citizen of an ex colony wish to live in the country of it's oppression?

They come here because the streets are paved with gold.. comparatively.

Do you think there might be other reasons that people might want to leave oppressive countries? Other than British colonial rule? Or TBF the colonial rule of many other nations as we weren't the only ones.

Can I ask posters who want to welcome channel crossers et al, how they view open borders?

If everyone or even a good percentage from a former colony or anywhere else wishes to seek a new life here, is that acceptable?

Politics has a real impact on real people. Frankly voter who don't care about whether or not the people they vote for are competent and qualified for the job, they should abstain from voting altogether. Voting is a civic duty and a responsibility. It's not the eurovision. You cannot vote for the worst idiots just because they plug into your 'feelz'.

You can though. If you want. That's democracy!

I think a lot has to do with comparative ease. If you can get here it’s better than many other options.

Maybe you can, but I question the fact that you should.

I think that governments prefer people from other countries for some reason. They've ground us all down and we're now expendable so they need a new batch. Like laying hens who run out of steam after a couple of years and are culled and sent for pet food.

Who would decide whether people are voting correctly?

So how do you propose stopping them?

Runnymede Trust, Refugee Action

We have Labour in now, they were voted in with ‘feelz’ as you put it.

Then we’d have to assess the intellectual abilities of everyone in the country and before you know it we have lost democracy

Candidates should be vetted and qualified. The whole donor system needs to be reformed so that corporate interests and foreign powers can't interfere to the extent they do now. We need better, more professional, more competent options to choose from. That's how you make sure that democracy doesn't get the rope to hang itself.

Well yes, it is easier when you speak the language and know the culture.

I am sure we would all opt for familiarity when in need of asylum