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To think many women aren't suited to all police situations

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Dududud · 10/07/2025 21:26

Moment police officer sobs after 'being punched at Manchester Airport' Police officer sobs

Vile the police officers were attacked by the media and by politicans. However, this is a seperate issuse - I don't think she should have been sent to deal with this in the first place.

OP posts:
Meadowfinch · 10/07/2025 22:22

Worldgonecrazy · 10/07/2025 21:42

Yanbu. Female officers, even with the best training in the world, will be at a disadvantage when up against male strength and violence. There are other areas wherein female officers could be more suited, eg dealing with victims of violence, trauma, general visibility etc.

Oh, please! Don't be so patronising.

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:22

grumpygrape · 10/07/2025 22:21

What has physical strength got to do with it ?

if most women are physically incapable of restraining most men, are they suitable for front line roles?

TY78910 · 10/07/2025 22:23

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:18

Women are typically, are as physically as strong as men?

I don’t think this can be brought down to strength alone. Just as capable of doing a police job, yes. Assaulting a police officer, whether male or female will usually result in a nasty injury when caught off guard. A male officer in this situation would also have been punched and likely had his nose broken.

Are we saying that because women are physically built different, we won’t have any in the force? Are we saying that when a female officer sees a violent crime emerging she is to stand by and not intervene, just call for male back up? Are we saying that women shouldn’t go in to the community because there’s always a chance that someone will become violent? Send them to crimes where the perpetrators are female only to level out the playing field? Come on, ridiculous.

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 22:24

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:22

if most women are physically incapable of restraining most men, are they suitable for front line roles?

Who said most women are incapable? Where has this ridiculous notion just appeared from? 1950??

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:26

TY78910 · 10/07/2025 22:23

I don’t think this can be brought down to strength alone. Just as capable of doing a police job, yes. Assaulting a police officer, whether male or female will usually result in a nasty injury when caught off guard. A male officer in this situation would also have been punched and likely had his nose broken.

Are we saying that because women are physically built different, we won’t have any in the force? Are we saying that when a female officer sees a violent crime emerging she is to stand by and not intervene, just call for male back up? Are we saying that women shouldn’t go in to the community because there’s always a chance that someone will become violent? Send them to crimes where the perpetrators are female only to level out the playing field? Come on, ridiculous.

physical strength is vital in a front line police role, if you’re dealing with violent incidents and the majority of these incidents will involve dealing with men and you’re at a massive disadvantage are you suitable for that role?

MalcolmMoo · 10/07/2025 22:26

Read this today and thought how amazing:
https://www.wiltshire999s.co.uk/hero-tackled-knifeman-canal-award/

Women do belong in the police and do fantastic jobs! I think some people aren’t suited for the police but it’s not a male v female thing!

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 22:26

I deal with violent men who are bigger than me on a daily basis!

i’m capable of that you know!?

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 10/07/2025 22:26

The police are massively under resourced. They will send who ever is free. As I always say, if you have a problem with the police being under resourced volunteer as a special.

The focus here should be the violent thugs who pulled the racism line to try and deflect from the fact they need locking up for a very long time

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:27

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 22:24

Who said most women are incapable? Where has this ridiculous notion just appeared from? 1950??

So you believe women are just as physically strong as men?

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 22:28

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:27

So you believe women are just as physically strong as men?

Again, I said CAPABLE

i work in a men’s prison, I’m very capable thanks!! I did break a fingernail today though…caught it on a gate!

LittleLilac · 10/07/2025 22:28

Lougle · 10/07/2025 21:38

Honestly? I agree. I'm all for equality of opportunity and women's rights, but if I'm being attacked, I want the 6'3" built like a rugby player guy to turn up, not the 5'2" slim woman. That's the truth. I'm aware it makes me a hypocrite, and I'm comfortable with that.

It’s not about physical strength, it’s about their bravery. That 5’2 slim woman put that uniform on because she’s willing to risk her life to save yours. So be damn grateful if you ever need to ring for help someone like that has shown up.

FishersGate · 10/07/2025 22:28

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 10/07/2025 22:26

The police are massively under resourced. They will send who ever is free. As I always say, if you have a problem with the police being under resourced volunteer as a special.

The focus here should be the violent thugs who pulled the racism line to try and deflect from the fact they need locking up for a very long time

Too true. I notice media coverage has all but stopped now that line can't be used.

BoredZelda · 10/07/2025 22:29

Lougle · 10/07/2025 21:38

Honestly? I agree. I'm all for equality of opportunity and women's rights, but if I'm being attacked, I want the 6'3" built like a rugby player guy to turn up, not the 5'2" slim woman. That's the truth. I'm aware it makes me a hypocrite, and I'm comfortable with that.

I’m 5ft1. I broke up more bar fights in my 20s as a barmaid than any of the blokes I worked with.

Anyone who knows anything about self defence knows it makes no difference how big you are, it’s having the right skills to deal with someone. I guarantee I’d be more effective at stopping your attacker than my husband who is 6ft3 and would have no clue how to subdue someone.

TY78910 · 10/07/2025 22:29

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:26

physical strength is vital in a front line police role, if you’re dealing with violent incidents and the majority of these incidents will involve dealing with men and you’re at a massive disadvantage are you suitable for that role?

Yes. Because as most posters on this thread have already mentioned there are other ways of diffusing situations than violence. There are tools you can use if things get violent such as sprays, tasers, you are trained in how to block when someone is swinging for you. There will be a small number of situations in which you won’t see it coming, such as this one. I’d like to reiterate that if a male officer was in front of that man - he would also have sustained injuries. Just because you’re a man, doesn’t mean your face is made out of brick.

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:30

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 22:22

I said capable….dealing with violent men does not have to be a case of who is the strongest you know

if the situation turns violent it absolutely matters who is strongest? If the situation turns violent as it did here, women are at a a huge disadvantage, there’s nothing controversial about that it’s absolutely true

Fringle · 10/07/2025 22:30

Let’s be real. A 16 stone violent man throwing kicks and punches will be a lot harder for the average woman than the average man to physically overpower.

That’s why women police should be given the right in law to assess threat and just Taser the fucker. If a few aggressive men die of heart attacks or wet themselves in public after a woman copper zaps them with a few thousand volts, who cares?

minnienono · 10/07/2025 22:31

Women are not only capable but sometimes they actually defuse the situation because the antagonist won’t hit a woman (not in this case) I know a female bouncer and she gets a lot more respect than the men off the trouble makers

maddening · 10/07/2025 22:33

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 21:40

Oh please!

women are just as capable.

I personally am and always have been a feminist but can definitely say that there are physical differences between men and women and some scenarios where size and strength and fitness matter and this is one of these times - I also would not send a v weak man in to this situation- no matter the amount of training women's bodies not not as strong and able to withstand as much force as a man's body nor fight (for want of a better word) as hard as a man - there are plenty of police roles that a woman can do but I agree with the op - someone who has already downed a man would likely be able to chuck an 8 stone woman aside with one blow. And could potentially cause a lot more damage than he could a man.

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:33

TY78910 · 10/07/2025 22:29

Yes. Because as most posters on this thread have already mentioned there are other ways of diffusing situations than violence. There are tools you can use if things get violent such as sprays, tasers, you are trained in how to block when someone is swinging for you. There will be a small number of situations in which you won’t see it coming, such as this one. I’d like to reiterate that if a male officer was in front of that man - he would also have sustained injuries. Just because you’re a man, doesn’t mean your face is made out of brick.

But ultimately it wasn’t the women who dealt with this situation, it was the male officers who physically subdued the attacker and they were the ones who risked losing their livelihoods and liberty because the female officer couldn’t handle the situation. Is that fair?

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 22:34

A 6ft officer faced with an offender of same size might look ok to the general public. A fair match yeah? Little woman sits in car safe radioing it in? Happy?

but that offender will be full of adrenaline and prob off his tits on a drug of choice

now the 2 men are no longer a match

along comes the itty bitty female officer and either talks him down (my speciality) stage by stage or tasers/pavas him

big officer is looking on still

maddening · 10/07/2025 22:34

minnienono · 10/07/2025 22:31

Women are not only capable but sometimes they actually defuse the situation because the antagonist won’t hit a woman (not in this case) I know a female bouncer and she gets a lot more respect than the men off the trouble makers

This guy was already headbutting people - it had gone beyond defusing - and defo agree that some situations would be better for a woman's presence

Pistachiocake · 10/07/2025 22:35

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 21:40

Oh please!

women are just as capable.

Absolutely! Many women are bigger/stronger than some men. Even if we admit that on AVERAGE we're smaller, training/tactics come into it. The best fighters in the world aren't all big. And policing is not just about being strong.
Many challenging (emotionally and physically) jobs are primarily done by women.
Everyone, male or female, should be allowed to apply for all jobs.

PassTheCordialCordelia · 10/07/2025 22:35

why is crying 'weak'?

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 22:36

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:30

if the situation turns violent it absolutely matters who is strongest? If the situation turns violent as it did here, women are at a a huge disadvantage, there’s nothing controversial about that it’s absolutely true

It’s not though is it 😂

Golden407 · 10/07/2025 22:37

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 10/07/2025 22:28

Again, I said CAPABLE

i work in a men’s prison, I’m very capable thanks!! I did break a fingernail today though…caught it on a gate!

You would not be capable of restraining the majority of men within that prison

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