To think many women aren't suited to all police situations

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Moment police officer sobs after 'being punched at Manchester Airport' Police officer sobs

Vile the police officers were attacked by the media and by politicans. However, this is a seperate issuse - I don't think she should have been sent to deal with this in the first place.

Fighting male violence with more male violence isn't the way.

High rates of domestic violence, sexual assault of witnesses and victims..no, thanks. I'd feel far happier and safer with a female Police officer if I need one

I feel the same.

I think most people, if they’re honest, would say the same.

I felt so sorry for that police officer watching that footage. It’s such a scary job for anyone to do. The lack of respect for the police now is awful.

Give her a break. It's such a hard job. Why should she be prevented from that job because she is female . Would you like the police force to be manned purely by men?

And remember this is the case where the second male officer who stamped on the guys head was suspended for dealing with the situation so decisively and iirc weren’t there riots regarding police brutality following this?

personally I think the stamping was justified, I can see his point about needing to stop things quickly. And in my book of someone is happy to repeatedly kick a police officer in the head he can’t complain when he gets the same back.

It’s an absolute fact that the average man is stronger than the average woman. This is absolute facts a an anecdote about an exception does not change facts. Women do belong in every police force but maybe not in every situation.
A while back there were videos circulating from Dublin (I am in Ireland) of a male officer getting the shit beaten out of him while his female partner could only stand and watch. It was uncomfortable viewing tbh.

As soon as I saw the title I knew it was a response to the dog whistle misogyny in the media atm. Women can’t be ministers or police officers because they cry. Boo fucking hoo, literally. Male police officers have raped and murdered. We need both sexes doing all jobs apart from those which are exempt, which are relatively few.

There are benefits to having female officers that you're missing.
Sending only big burly police officers can escalate a situation. There are a lot of criminals who would actually draw the line at assaulting a female police officer either because of some (admittedly skewed) moral code, or because they feel they'll get a harsher sentence.

I used to deal with some precarious situations - nothing like the police, but working in soup kitchens with a large group of vulnerable men, a lot of whom didn't like each other and a mix of mental health and substance issues thrown into the mix - and they would always square up to a male member of staff but usually back down to a female staff member.

Key point “she was heavily pregnant!”

Never mind women aren’t cut out for the job, what’s the scum going to get sentenced to?! Bugger all I expect.

I feel sorry for her. Having the footage shown in court makes it public and free to be reproduced on websites etc. I’d definitely cry if some thug punched me in the face.

But really it just shows us all what a difficult and dangerous job the police do.

I reckon female police officers should just be allowed to Taser and then handcuff men who act threateningly towards them.

personally I think the stamping was justified, I can see his point about needing to stop things quickly. And in my book of someone is happy to repeatedly kick a police officer in the head he can’t complain when he gets the same back.

The balance of rights has tilted too far towards protecting criminals and away from protecting the communities and also the police being put into risky situations.

I know a female CID officer who misses the car chases and grappling with scrotes bit of her uniformed days. It was the side of the job she liked.

I have always wondered if the route through a policing career means that the police are missing out on the right person for the job. Somebody in a wheelchair might be brilliant at questioning suspects or conducting complex fraud investigations but they aren't going to be recruited because they can't do the beating the streets part of policing. Somebody who'd be great in a riot or rugby-tackling scrotes might not be selected because their academic record means they aren't going to be a candidate for career progression. Maybe the police service needs to be compartmentalised into different specialities right from the cadet stage?

I rather like the police being tall myself. basically enforcing order physically means a high degree of courage and understanding that you will be assaulted. Like prison officers, this is largely a job where you will be dealing with the very worst of mostly male behaviour and unless we are going to arm officers with guns then stuff like this is going to happen.

I’m really shocked by your post - it risks setting women back decades. I work in a very tough job and occasionally I cry. It doesn’t mean I can’t do my job. Crying is not the problem: people filming police officers and posting the footage are the problem.

Not necessarily, mostly diffusing stuff is important. I do think female officers should always be paired with male officers because differences in average physical ability are a biological reality. There are women who can hold their own, once watched a video of a female IDF soldier hold her own against a bunch of orthodox nutters. She did a bang up job, few swift kicks to the kneecap. I do think female officers should have enhanced training on how to manage physical confrontation. My DD does a martial art but the advice I will be giving her is kick and run away. The strength disparity is real. But the majority of police work is not getting punched in the face.

Most people would take their nose being broken pretty badly frankly. You do need to be able to pull yourself together quickly though.

One on one physical violence is rarely the answer. A taser gives any police officer the upper hand.

Agree with this, theres a strong case for individual liberty and rights but when we cease to protect the community at large then our justice system is failing. A woman was left paralysed on one side because her boyfriend didn’t like the fact that she was leaving, eligible for parole in 7 months. A yemeni couldn’t be deported for grooming a 14yr old boy because apparently they take that kind of thing badly in Yemen.

How is the public good served?

That guy was kicked in the head because the officer was carrying a gun and he was extremely violent, there was a possibility he would try to get the gun. The police officer was entirely reasonable to subdue the twat the best way he could given the situation.

I disagree, female officers are a valuable part of the police.
I don't think anyone is fair game for such violence.
She should have pepper sprayed them.
I wish there was suffient prison space so vicious humans can be locked away, I'd love an automatic 5 year sentence for anyone who assaults public protection staff, and medical staff.
They know that the consequences are not a big deal.

Police officers, both men & women, are trained to handle violent offenders. They also have batons, pava spray, some have tasers.

Yes, the officer was smaller and lighter but she chose to be a police officer. She knew the risks. This won't have been the first punch-up she had seen or been involved in. There is always a risk even to the biggest, strongest and most experienced officers.

And incidentally I have see an angry 60yo woman break the nose of a man four inches taller then her. You underestimate women, OP

A local male officer committed suicide recently. I'd rather he had cried.

Surely it depends on the woman? Last time I checked, women aren’t all the same height and build, and some are as hard as nails.

Women are typically, are as physically as strong as men?

What has physical strength got to do with it ?

if the majority of women are unable to physically compete with men are they suitable for front line roles?

Women are often better at de escalating potentially violent situations - obviously that’s not how this situation played out but often women polic officers are more successful at preventing violence

I said capable….dealing with violent men does not have to be a case of who is the strongest you know