Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To wonder if there'll be a revolt?

526 replies

TreatTreat · 09/07/2025 21:21

In the country that's stretched to its limits, today it was announced that Keir has agreed with Mr Macron that just 50 illegal migrants per week will be sent away.

I know so many people are totally fed up with the state of the country.

Will there be protests?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
9
MiloMinderbinder925 · 15/07/2025 09:40

TreatTreat · 15/07/2025 09:36

Well said. Females are not safe with unknown men from overseas here. Their culture and respect for women does not equal ours. They don't see females as equals at all.

Can you explain why we have a VAWAG crisis in the UK OP? You know, since 'our culture' has so much respect for women.

TreatTreat · 15/07/2025 09:58

MiloMinderbinder925 · 15/07/2025 09:38

I'm sorry to hear of your sexual assault but am not interested in your racism. There are two types of racists, one is ignorant and unable to differentiate between people of colour, lumping them all together in a dehumanising fashion. The other is intelligent and has an agenda, twisting 'facts' to sow division.

I believe you are the first kind, lacking intelligence and unable to understand that not all people from a whole continent are the same. It's my country too and I'd rather people like you weren't in it. You have nothing positive to contribute.

Like I said, I don't care what you think of me.

OP posts:
MiloMinderbinder925 · 15/07/2025 10:01

TreatTreat · 15/07/2025 09:58

Like I said, I don't care what you think of me.

Ignorant types don't do feedback so that's understandable. However it's a public forum and people are going to challenge racism.

TreatTreat · 15/07/2025 15:52

MiloMinderbinder925 · 15/07/2025 10:01

Ignorant types don't do feedback so that's understandable. However it's a public forum and people are going to challenge racism.

That's fine. You do you and I'll do me.

OP posts:
Southern25 · 30/07/2025 22:28

Livelovebehappy · 09/07/2025 22:07

Yeayyy. Lots of single men from Syria, Iran and Afghanistan flooding our shores. What could possibly go wrong? Where are their family - wives, mothers, children? Abondoned presumably in those dangerous countries they’ve escaped from. So we already know their values and morals…..

Well yes doesn’t that show the calibre of these men?..
Tell every man that comes here that they have to serve in the Army , they would be gone in a flash ..

Jennps · 30/07/2025 23:12

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

JHound · 31/07/2025 00:36

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

That’s not what gaslighting means. She is not gaslighting her. She is calling out her racism.

Glitchymn1 · 31/07/2025 03:19

MiloMinderbinder925 · 15/07/2025 09:38

I'm sorry to hear of your sexual assault but am not interested in your racism. There are two types of racists, one is ignorant and unable to differentiate between people of colour, lumping them all together in a dehumanising fashion. The other is intelligent and has an agenda, twisting 'facts' to sow division.

I believe you are the first kind, lacking intelligence and unable to understand that not all people from a whole continent are the same. It's my country too and I'd rather people like you weren't in it. You have nothing positive to contribute.

People are allowed a point of view, without having their intelligence brought into it. Low blow.

CoffeeCantata · 31/07/2025 06:39

If there’s another heatwave, there might be. Hot summers do often coincide with all kinds of social unrest.

Whatever your views on the matter, any government would be extremely foolish to ignore or dismiss rumblings and concerns within the general population.

It’s simple- if concerns are unfounded, they need to demonstrate that. If they’re not, they need to show that they’re acting to improve the situation. Just pretending there’s no problem isn’t going to work in the long run.

Jennps · 31/07/2025 08:14

JHound · 31/07/2025 00:36

That’s not what gaslighting means. She is not gaslighting her. She is calling out her racism.

Edited

Yeah more gaslighting. This time from you.

JHound · 31/07/2025 08:34

Jennps · 31/07/2025 08:14

Yeah more gaslighting. This time from you.

That word doesn’t mean what you think it means.

JHound · 31/07/2025 08:35

Glitchymn1 · 31/07/2025 03:19

People are allowed a point of view, without having their intelligence brought into it. Low blow.

Is it really “low brow” to classify racist outpourings as “unintelligent”.

CoffeeCantata · 31/07/2025 08:59

It’s not racist to point out that different cultures have different attitudes to women. I’m irritated by the conflation of cultural concerns with racism. It’s used as a way of shutting down legitimate debate, but it’s not honest and it’s not healthy.

I’ve had plenty of experience in encountering these differences. Being ignored because I’m female and having it explained to me that men from a particular cultural background will not accept a woman’s authority, or deal with women at all. This was apparently OK (on what planet, I’d like to know?)

It suits some narratives to pretend that culture and ethnicity are the same thing. They’re not. I can think of a white cultural group in this country whose attitudes to women I find very problematic.

No one should dismiss people’s experiences and sweep them under the rug!

Jennps · 31/07/2025 09:10

JHound · 31/07/2025 08:34

That word doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Racism doesn’t mean what you think it means.

JHound · 31/07/2025 11:16

Jennps · 31/07/2025 09:10

Racism doesn’t mean what you think it means.

You don’t think making wild stereotypes on entire groups of people on the basis of perceived race and ethnicity is “racist”?

Ok.

JHound · 31/07/2025 11:17

CoffeeCantata · 31/07/2025 08:59

It’s not racist to point out that different cultures have different attitudes to women. I’m irritated by the conflation of cultural concerns with racism. It’s used as a way of shutting down legitimate debate, but it’s not honest and it’s not healthy.

I’ve had plenty of experience in encountering these differences. Being ignored because I’m female and having it explained to me that men from a particular cultural background will not accept a woman’s authority, or deal with women at all. This was apparently OK (on what planet, I’d like to know?)

It suits some narratives to pretend that culture and ethnicity are the same thing. They’re not. I can think of a white cultural group in this country whose attitudes to women I find very problematic.

No one should dismiss people’s experiences and sweep them under the rug!

It is racist to assume all Africans have the same “culture” and that that allegedly identical culture is harmful to women.

Using culture as a PC stand-in when you are actually referring to race is racist.

Calling out racism is not dismissing people’s alleged experiences. It’s pointing out the fallacy and bigotry of their claims.
Africa is a continent with over a bn people, 54 nations and 100s if not thousands of different cultures.

It’s laughable to mush it all into one or claim that one’s handful of dating experiences can be used to categorise entire ethnicities.

KirriIrry · 31/07/2025 11:26

Livelovebehappy · 09/07/2025 22:07

Yeayyy. Lots of single men from Syria, Iran and Afghanistan flooding our shores. What could possibly go wrong? Where are their family - wives, mothers, children? Abondoned presumably in those dangerous countries they’ve escaped from. So we already know their values and morals…..

This is flipped logic.
it will almost certainly apply to some of the people coming over, of course, but making that journey is dangerous. So some of these men will be doing the dangerous bit themselves and then sending for their wife and children to come over in safety - that’s their morals and values……

caringcarer · 31/07/2025 11:37

Livelovebehappy · 09/07/2025 22:07

Yeayyy. Lots of single men from Syria, Iran and Afghanistan flooding our shores. What could possibly go wrong? Where are their family - wives, mothers, children? Abondoned presumably in those dangerous countries they’ve escaped from. So we already know their values and morals…..

👏👏

JHound · 31/07/2025 11:39

KirriIrry · 31/07/2025 11:26

This is flipped logic.
it will almost certainly apply to some of the people coming over, of course, but making that journey is dangerous. So some of these men will be doing the dangerous bit themselves and then sending for their wife and children to come over in safety - that’s their morals and values……

This is what appears to be the case. Especially as we have closed all asylum routes to the UK for everybody except Ukranians.

Sending men to take the risk first is entirely to be expected and also not unusual.

notimagain · 31/07/2025 11:44

If these men were really worried about the physical safety of their wives and children they would get themselves to the first safe country en-route and them immediately try and arrange for the family to join them.

Waiting for however long it takes to get to the UK would suggest there might be other motives.

Thibault · 31/07/2025 11:47

Ooh a revolt; that will show them. There is nothing like watching idiots loot Primark and Footlocker to make the government change its mind on policy.👍

Livelovebehappy · 31/07/2025 11:47

KirriIrry · 31/07/2025 11:26

This is flipped logic.
it will almost certainly apply to some of the people coming over, of course, but making that journey is dangerous. So some of these men will be doing the dangerous bit themselves and then sending for their wife and children to come over in safety - that’s their morals and values……

So they leave them in a dangerous country. Come over here. Then wait till they're given asylum which can take months/years before bringing them over?? It's like leaving your family in a room with a dangerous man with a knife whilst you go off to get help. Your family will be long gone by the time you get them out of the siuation. That's of course if they are in fact escaping danger....sorry, I dont buy it...

SilenceOfTheTimTams · 31/07/2025 11:53

I tend to find that loud, self-proclaimed anti-racists are often nasty antisemites. Oh well, such is life.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 31/07/2025 12:46

LadyKenya · 09/07/2025 21:29

Maybe any revolt should be about the tiny percentage of people, hoarding most of the wealth, that would at least make sense. I won't hold my breath though.

@LadyKenya , ‘hoarding’? Are you ‘hoarding’ your wealth and keeping from the poverty stricken of the world or sharing it with them?

TheignT · 31/07/2025 12:48

SilenceOfTheTimTams · 31/07/2025 11:53

I tend to find that loud, self-proclaimed anti-racists are often nasty antisemites. Oh well, such is life.

I've never met an anti racist who was anti-Semitic.

Swipe left for the next trending thread