To wonder if there'll be a revolt?

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In the country that's stretched to its limits, today it was announced that Keir has agreed with Mr Macron that just 50 illegal migrants per week will be sent away.

I know so many people are totally fed up with the state of the country.

Will there be protests?

1 out of 17 are removed to France?

It’s only 50 migrants per week or has that changed?

In that case what happens to the rest, if over 1000 arrive in a week. Where are the rest processed?

I assume that the MP in question was representing his constituents.

There is enough cohesion to cause issues in this, a secular country. Don't take my word for it:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/understanding-and-responding-to-blasphemy-extremism/understanding-and-responding-to-blasphemy-extremism-in-the-uk-accessible

Sheer numbers and lack of integration are widely acknowledged to be issues. We can either attempt to deal with it and improve things, or continue to deny that anything is amiss and label concerns as bigotry, in which case we will see more riots and division.

Disabled people, as we already see.

50 migrants a week is only while it’s being piloted. It will increase.

On Mars, where do you think??

You know very well its a pilot, yet still persist in trying to be provocative.

Good news on Jake Berry! at least he accepts the Tories broke Britain.

So we can’t do anything about undocumented migrants, people over staying their VISAS, fake students… because we may then end up ‘going after’ disabled people?

The same disabled people who struggle to access state benefits or the NHS because we have a population crisis and far too much state spending vs tax collection?

I don't think it will be shelved. A wet summer or bad spring would be more effective in reducing this irregular migration.

President Macron is right I think that there should be a focus on tackling unofficial employment. Changing the law to end moped delivery drivers would be simple to do, and a few more people having to walk to their takeaway would be no bad thing.

Calm down. Just scroll on by.

I agree with your last sentence.

It wont go through - it will meet all sorts of resistance including EU approval and legal challenges.

Oh do go away OP.

I didn’t say that, but reform are scapegoating migrants and brown people. It always happens the same way. When that becomes less of an issue it will be disabled people. Who was it the other day on GBN about starving or shooting disabled people? There always needs to be scapegoat.

The 1% of the population pay 30% of the tax in this country. We rely on them to keep this country going. These people never use our welfare system etc… why do you hate them so much? You hate the immigrants, you hate the billionaires, you hate poor people.

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Quite the opposite actually from what I’ve seen (not a supporter - but also not a fan of misinformation)

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/nigel-farage-offers-simple-solution-mass-deportations

He said no to banning halal slaughter. His chairman is a Muslim and they have Muslim candidates.

Unfortunately, parties like Reform will gain in popularity the worse economically people in Britain are doing. Especially if their arguments are mocked or ignored. Story as old as time and showing across Europe.

We are an aging society that is producing less children. By the time we are of pension age, there won’t be enough people in the work force to pay our pension. ( for those who don’t know, our pension contributions are not stored in a safe place like many think, they get spent on the current pensioners. So we live in hope that there will be enough people contributing to the system so we get a pay out) although I don’t believe so as I think we are heading for a means tested state pension.

Always so aggressive

I noticed that too.

My very simple argument to this is it’s unsustainable. The boomers had many kids which we needed post war and for the jobs we had. Those jobs simply don’t exist now and won’t as time moves on due to advancements in technology.

If we had a smaller and more skilled population, this would make sense as we advance technologically. Those people should in theory have a greater wealth and be able to save themselves for retirement instead of relying on the state. Those with stability will often have kids. Most 30 year olds aren’t even on the housing ladder currently.

What we have currently, is living standards that are getting much poorer in record time and a system that punishes success (which is deemed at 50k and above for some reason).

Every company in this country with wealth seems to be HQ’d somewhere else so clawing money from them is apparently impossible. Keeping going as we are will only be met with failure, chickens have come home to roost.

Agree

They misrepresent statistics which the gullible fall for, they carefully pick their language to misrepresent facts and confuse the issue - all on purpose. It’s not surprising for them to be seen to side with the enemy to some degree so they can fool people into believing they aren’t so bad, and it’s also not surprising for members of a minority group to side with them as a form of defence or internalised beliefs.

Yep, I agree too.

I don’t know why we didn’t follow the example of our EU neighbours and vote for identity cards when we had the chance. You can’t possibly control numbers or know who is in the country without insisting on i. d. cards and insist that everyone carries one at all times.

You only have to look at those traffic cop programmes where they waste the first 30 minutes of someone’s arrest trying to find out who they are to know how inefficient our system is! The useful thing about i.d. cards is that not having one immediately marks you out as dodgy!

This

Well it’s an old Labour policy that Robert Jenrick wanted but couldn’t persuade Sunak it would work better than Rwanda. But Jenrick is not stupid - we just couldn’t agree it with the French when the Tories were in. Now it has been agreed, and it’s likely to work well.

What an utterly reductive, ignorant post.

Happy to debate it, if there is a ‘grown-up’ around (I don’t mean a blubbing Chancellor).

That's unlikely to happen, so I would stop panicking. Particularly since it's 3% of 70m.